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Title: Streets of Sunderland
Post by: scruffypup on Tuesday 17 February 09 15:56 GMT (UK)
Many of my ancestors came from Sunderland, I would love to know more about where they lived, I've tried looking for info on the following streets and schools, but seem to be coming to a dead end, photos would be fantastic but any info at all would be very much appreciated, no doubt many of these places no longer exist or the transcribers may have misspelt them when completing census returns, here goes

Hodgkin Street 
45 Barnes Lane
2 Oak Street,
Aubrey Terrace
4/5 Ettrick Place 
15 and 43 Spring Garden Lane
36 Baines lane
11 Robinson Lane
5 Mordey Street
8 tyne/lyme street
24 Stafford Street
20 Cousin Street Hendon
Carr's Yard, East End 
41 South Durham Street
St Patrick's RC school
St Mary's RC school
Chester oval
23 Chester Terrace

Julie
Title: Re: Streets of Sunderland
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 17 February 09 15:58 GMT (UK)
You can check whether they still exist on the following website

www.multimap.com
Title: Re: Streets of Sunderland
Post by: scruffypup on Tuesday 17 February 09 16:40 GMT (UK)
Hi Carole

Just found Chester Terrace on Birds Eye View, not noticed that feature before, great idea.  Not had chance to check the others yet, the tribe are on school hols so it's feeding time again ;D, will check when I've made tea.

Thanks
Julie
Title: Re: Streets of Sunderland
Post by: stanmapstone on Tuesday 17 February 09 16:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Julie,
As a preliminary these are the locations of some of the streets, I will give you the information to find them on a map later.
Hodgkin Street  was at 62 High Street
45 Barnes Lane can't find a Barnes Lane could it be Baines Lane?
2 Oak Street, was off East Hendon Road
Aubrey Terrace can't find that yet
4/5 Ettrick Place  was off Grey Street
15 and 43 Spring Garden Lane was at 13 High Street
36 Baines lane was at 44 High Street
11 Robinson Lane was at 68 High Street
5 Mordey Street can't find that yet
8 Tyne/lyme street was off Hendon Road
24 Stafford Street was between Hat Case and Barrack Street
20 Cousin Street Hendon was off Moor Street
Carr's Yard, East End was at 103 High Street
41 South Durham Street was off Borough Road
St Patrick's RC school was in Sussex Street
St Mary's RC school was in Pan Lane
Chester oval not there but was near Chester Terrace
23 Chester Terrace still there

Stan
Title: Re: Streets of Sunderland
Post by: scruffypup on Tuesday 17 February 09 17:30 GMT (UK)
Hi Stan

Thanks for the help, it's so sad to see how much of Sunderland has gone, but even my Dad could remember growing up in the tenements in the 1920's/30's, he's no longer with us now, but he would recall living in the Chester's.  I did manage to find his birthplace 27 Church Street.  Were the houses always white or have they all been painted white to match I wonder?  I was looking on a Sunderland property website and saw a photo of them.

Julie
Title: Re: Streets of Sunderland
Post by: stanmapstone on Tuesday 17 February 09 17:44 GMT (UK)
To locate the streets go to http://gis.durham.gov.uk/website/interMAP/viewer.htm and enter these co-ords in Search. You can view maps of various dates.
Hodgkin Street  440482, 557376
Oak Street, 440853,556914
Ettrick Place 440325, 557226
Spring Garden Lane 440236,557209
Baines lane 440429, 557325
Robinson Lane was two streets east of Hodgkin Street
Tyne Street 440575, 556857
Stafford Street 440713, 557563
Cousin Street Hendon 440532, 557032
South Durham Street 440358, 556929
Chester oval is still there 438922, 556622
Chester Terrace still there

This 1827 Map shows some of the locations  http://lewis.dur.ac.uk/pip/singlezoom.asp?img=p2387&ref1=2258

I will try and find the other streets.

Stan

Title: Re: Streets of Sunderland
Post by: scruffypup on Tuesday 17 February 09 17:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Stan

Many thanks, will have a look now, keep saying one day I'll go visit Sunderland to see how much of it is still there from Dad's childhood and that of his ancestors, it helps to know how much is left. His ancestors from 1800 and earlier were mainly Gainford/Staindrop and Kirkcaldy in Fife  and Ireland so that's going back too far, no census or bmd for help with addresses there.   My Mum's family were mainly Yorkshire and Lincs, with a few from Northern Ireland too.

Julie
Title: Re: Streets of Sunderland
Post by: stanmapstone on Tuesday 17 February 09 19:00 GMT (UK)
St Patrick's RC school was at the junction of Sussex Street and Coronation Street
St Mary's RC school was in Pan Lane, and later in  Chester Road  where it was  opened in the old infirmary  building in 1902. It is now part of Sunderland University.

Stan
Title: Re: Streets of Sunderland
Post by: stanmapstone on Tuesday 17 February 09 21:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Julie,
St Patrick's RC school was at the junction of Sussex Street and Coronation Street
The co-ordinates are 440237,557065

St Mary's RC school was in Pan Lane, co-ordinates are 439668, 557255
 and later in  Chester Road co-ordinates 439190, 556808

Carr's Yard co-ordinates are  440660, 557610
Mordey Street co-ordinates are 440411, 556452, the new houses on the site are called Mordey Close.

Aubrey Terrace was that part of the south side of Mowbray Road between Salem Street South and Toward Road, post code SR28EW or co-ordinates 440116, 556180. THe houses are still there.

They are all the addresses you wanted  :) :) :)

Stan
Title: Re: Streets of Sunderland
Post by: scruffypup on Wednesday 18 February 09 09:19 GMT (UK)
Hi Stan

Thank you for all your hard work, you're a star.  I'll have a look at the schools and streets you've added , the RC schools my Dad went too, Carr's Yard is where my Grandfather's address when he served in the Merchant Navy WW1 possibly a ship yard? , Mordey Street is where my Great Gran was living at the time of her marriage in 1880  and Aubrey Terrace is where my Great Great Gran died in 1876. 

Thanks
Julie
Title: Re: Streets of Sunderland
Post by: stanmapstone on Wednesday 18 February 09 10:38 GMT (UK)
Hi Stan

 Carr's Yard is where my Grandfather's address when he served in the Merchant Navy WW1 possibly a ship yard?
Hi Julie
It is not a shipyard  :) In the 1881 Census there were nine families living in the four houses in Carr's Yard which was  between High Street East and Warren Street. I can't attach a map in "Lookup Requests" but if you want one send me a PM with you email address.

Stan
Title: Re: Streets of Sunderland
Post by: milly17090 on Monday 13 April 09 20:53 BST (UK)
Julie

My Great Great Grandmother was born at 2 Oak Street Sunderland. I wonder if there is a connection. Her name was Hannah Mary Harper.

Regards
Lisa
Title: Re: Streets of Sunderland
Post by: scruffypup on Tuesday 14 April 09 09:50 BST (UK)
Hi Milly

My Great Gran Grace Sidney was orphaned and lived at 2 Oak Street with her Uncle Joseph in 1861, her Grandfather Joseph died at the same address the year after.  A lot of the old Sunderland buildings housed many families in one home so the chances are your Great Great Grandmother probably knew my Great Great Uncle and his family.


Julie
Title: Re: Streets of Sunderland
Post by: Fairy Glen on Wednesday 27 October 10 21:36 BST (UK)
Hello Julie

I would be interested in your family who lived in 43 Spring Garden Lane as my family, the Leighton's, lived there according to the 1851 census.

Fiona
Title: Re: Streets of Sunderland
Post by: scruffypup on Thursday 28 October 10 08:45 BST (UK)
Hi Fiona

The Jones family were originally from Ireland, not able to find anything about them before the 1851 Census in England, the only reference to Ireland is from their birthplaces in the census, my Great Great Gran Ellen Jones lived at No 43 in 1871 she lived at No 15 in 1861 and between 1861/71 Ellen and her brothers all lived on Spring Garden Lane, her sister Mary lived there too under her married name of Meehan/Meighan in 1861.

Julie
Title: Re: Streets of Sunderland
Post by: Nifty1 on Tuesday 24 March 15 12:02 GMT (UK)
Can anybody please give me an idea where I will find a map that includes South Alley which was apparently in the east ward of Sunderland in the 1861 census?
Title: Re: Streets of Sunderland
Post by: stanmapstone on Tuesday 24 March 15 13:11 GMT (UK)
You can see South Alley on this map section  http://www.durham-images.org/public/ms/m11/m11sc5.html
You can download the full map at http://www.durham-images.org/public/maps/os512/os512_sh11.pdf
These are on the site http://www.durham-images.org/
Stan
Title: Re: Streets of Sunderland
Post by: Nifty1 on Tuesday 24 March 15 17:38 GMT (UK)
Stan, many thanks for your reply. I am very impressed at the apparent ease with which you  answer questions and other things you have bought peoples attention to, this  for  instance, I found  link=topic=194825.msg965575#msg965575 date=1162893763 a real eye opener that has rekindled my interest in finding out more about the Marsh's and the Dye's and any connection they may have with the sea

Clicking on the first link you provided in answer to my question seems to have  have given me reasons for a connection between the Marsh's and the Dye's.

'I'll be back' :)
Title: Re: Streets of Sunderland
Post by: brynjon on Tuesday 21 July 15 20:37 BST (UK)
Just been doing a re-run of my tree and searched for 41, South Durham Street, Bishopwearmouth, Durham, England and came across this - person in my tree was Robert Nellis RENTON a 2nd great grand uncle.
Title: Re: Streets of Sunderland
Post by: AncestryMich on Saturday 11 February 23 15:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Julie, I appreciate this is a very old post, but I came across it whilst searching on 20 Cousin Street, Sunderland... I have a relative (surname Grieveson) residing there in 1878, as the address is on his marriage certificate (the bride was at 78 Moor St). Not sure what year your relative(s) were living there, but thought it worth an ask.... feel free to contact me - thanks, Michelle
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Many of my ancestors came from Sunderland, I would love to know more about where they lived, I've tried looking for info on the following streets and schools, but seem to be coming to a dead end, photos would be fantastic but any info at all would be very much appreciated, no doubt many of these places no longer exist or the transcribers may have misspelt them when completing census returns, here goes

Hodgkin Street 
45 Barnes Lane
2 Oak Street,
Aubrey Terrace
4/5 Ettrick Place 
15 and 43 Spring Garden Lane
36 Baines lane
11 Robinson Lane
5 Mordey Street
8 tyne/lyme street
24 Stafford Street
20 Cousin Street Hendon
Carr's Yard, East End 
41 South Durham Street
St Patrick's RC school
St Mary's RC school
Chester oval
23 Chester Terrace

Julie

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