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Title: Dating jewellery
Post by: Marion_C on Wednesday 18 February 09 21:54 GMT (UK)
Good evening  :)

Does anyone have any useful tips for dating jewellery, or know of any good websites that might help?  The piece in question is a twist ring which I believe is late Victorian, though I'm not 100% sure.

Thanks for any help,

Marion
Title: Re: Dating jewellery
Post by: hepburn on Thursday 19 February 09 12:31 GMT (UK)
Are there any Hallmarks?
Title: Re: Dating jewellery
Post by: Marion_C on Thursday 19 February 09 13:10 GMT (UK)
Hi Hepburn, there is a hallmark which I think (through much squinting) says 18ct.  Nothing else, so I don't know whether that will help at all... it has a light blue central sapphire with 2 small diamonds on each side.  The gold setting is indented where it curves round the gems. 

Marion
Title: Re: Dating jewellery
Post by: willow154 on Thursday 19 February 09 14:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Marion,
There are a few sites listed here, which might help you:
http://antiques.about.com/od/victorianandedwardian/Victorian_and_Edwardian_Jewelry.htm
Good luck.
Paulene :)
Title: Re: Dating jewellery
Post by: hepburn on Friday 20 February 09 11:57 GMT (UK)
I don't think it's English which is a shame, you could have dated it from the  "date letter"where it was assayed and makers initials which would have been a great help...
Title: Re: Dating jewellery
Post by: Marion_C on Friday 20 February 09 13:24 GMT (UK)
Hepburn, that's actually very interesting as the woman I believe the ring originally belonged to travelled outside the UK with her family during the late 1870s/early 1880s.  I have been wondering where they went and the ring might be able to shed some light - assuming it is indeed from the relevant period!  I'm sure it was heard of to buy foreign rings in England at that time, but I'd love to think that this ring could be the key to discovering where my ancestors went on their travels.

A thought - do you think it could be Scottish?  If so that would implode my line of thinking as they were a Scottish family!!

Willow, many thanks for the links... I think I'll try to find a jeweller for some more info... hopefully they won't charge too much!
Title: Re: Dating jewellery
Post by: hepburn on Sunday 22 February 09 14:21 GMT (UK)
Scotland had their Hallmarks as well as Ireland,I'm not to sure about Wales.......
Try a small Jewellry shop one which has a good display of second hand gold.
Title: Re: Dating jewellery
Post by: seekernz on Thursday 20 April 17 07:26 BST (UK)
 A very informative site.  Antique jewellery university.

http://www.langantiques.com/university/Category:Victorian_Jewelry

 in the absence of detailed hallmarks the style of faceting in the gems gives a historical hint, your grannies diamond lacks the dazzle of todays gems because the cutters developed a new pattern of facets to reflect more light through the top surface , same gem but more bang for your bucks!.
Title: Re: Dating jewellery
Post by: Skoosh on Thursday 20 April 17 15:06 BST (UK)
I would take it into an auctioneers who will also give you an estimate of the value, gold isn't as well marked as silver & you're under no obligation to sell the item.

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Dating jewellery
Post by: Treetotal on Thursday 20 April 17 15:22 BST (UK)
Could you post a photo of it as we may be able to find a match for you.
Carol
Title: Re: Dating jewellery
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 20 April 17 15:27 BST (UK)
Although this thread was started over nine years ago, it would be interesting to know if the OP ever managed to find out more about the jewellery in question.  :)
Title: Re: Dating jewellery
Post by: Treetotal on Thursday 20 April 17 15:35 BST (UK)
 ;D ;D ;D ;D...Well spotted Ruskie...I never noticed....you should change your nickname to miss Marple.
Carol
Title: Re: Dating jewellery
Post by: HughC on Thursday 20 April 17 15:44 BST (UK)
I have a book of hallmarks, in case anyone has a similar problem.
It's 50 years old, but shows the marks down to 1963.
There doesn't appear to have been a Welsh assay office.
Title: Re: Dating jewellery
Post by: Skoosh on Thursday 20 April 17 19:42 BST (UK)
Probably used Chester?

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Dating jewellery
Post by: HughC on Thursday 20 April 17 20:42 BST (UK)
Chester would have been nearest.

There was also a "minor guild" in Bristol from 1730 to 1800.
Its marks were a lion passant guardant and a crowned leopard's face,
similar to those used by some other assay offices at the time,
together with a ship.
But it seems it was mainly spoons (and possibly other cutlery) that the minor guilds hallmarked, not jewellery.
Title: Re: Dating jewellery
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 20 April 17 23:40 BST (UK)
;D ;D ;D ;D...Well spotted Ruskie...I never noticed....you should change your nickname to miss Marple.
Carol

We need a sleuthing emoji with a magnifying glass. ;)

(The OP hasn't been on rootschat for a few years either).