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Title: Search for Douglas William Hamilton
Post by: johnbarr on Thursday 19 February 09 01:35 GMT (UK)
I am trying to get further details of this man who married my grandmother in 1908.

Marriage Cert shows him as Douglas William Hamilton, age 24, occupation Bush Contractor, status bachelor, bp Dannevirke, us. res. Dannevirke, father George Douglas Hamilton, farmer, mother Gertrude Gwendoline Hamilton/Hughes.

The only close birth I can see is William Douglas Hamilton, folio 2359, b 1881 in Paeroa which is a long way from Dannevirke?

Can anyone see a death that might be him?

Also, have not been able to find a marriage for his parents in NZ or UK.??

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. :)

Title: Re: Search for Douglas William Hamilton
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 19 February 09 02:02 GMT (UK)
Hi John

Mmmm ... wonder if the parents married in Australia ?
(Perhaps you could post a query on the AUS board and see if anything turns up ?)

The father, George Douglas HAMILTON - died 1911 -  is buried at Dannevirke.   See >>
http://www.tararuadc.govt.nz/asp/cemeteries_results.asp?menu=ce


Lu
Title: Re: Search for Douglas William Hamilton
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 19 February 09 02:12 GMT (UK)

 --- In the adjacent plot (Settlers Cemetery, Dannevirke),
is (presumably the mother ?)

"Gertrude Helen Alicia Gwendoline HAMILTON" - d. 1914 - aged 61.



Title: Re: Search for Douglas William Hamilton
Post by: johnbarr on Thursday 19 February 09 02:22 GMT (UK)
Excellent - many Thanks Lu :)

and yes, good suggestion to try for a marriage in Oz.
I'll do that now  ;D
Title: Re: Search for Douglas William Hamilton
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 19 February 09 02:25 GMT (UK)

The only close birth I can see is William Douglas Hamilton, folio 2359, b 1881 in Paeroa which is a long way from Dannevirke?


Sure, it is a long way from Dannevirke.   ;)    

Do you have access to the 1881 Electoral Roll to check if the father George Douglas HAMILTON is living in or near Paeroa ?
[Someone on here may be able to assist with a look-up ?]


William Douglas Hamilton

Can anyone see a death that might be him?


Any idea of where he might have been living ?


Lu
Title: Re: Search for Douglas William Hamilton
Post by: johnbarr on Thursday 19 February 09 02:33 GMT (UK)
Sister thinks they were living in Pukepoto near Ahipara (Northland) during WW1, where he apparently had bullock wagons and a sawmill.

She also thought he had gone off with men and horses to War - but I cannot find any sign of his WW1 service records at Archway or Cenotaph sites.

Granma was living in Wellington in 1922 when she divorced him, so I guess he was alive then, but I have no idea where ???
Title: Re: Search for Douglas William Hamilton
Post by: johnbarr on Thursday 19 February 09 22:33 GMT (UK)
Isn't Rootschat amazing ???

I followed Lu's suggestion and posted on Oz board, and lo and behold a marriage not in Australia but Scotland  ::)
- and a link to the whole amazing history of father George Douglas Hamilton at
http://www.dnzb.govt.nz/dnzb/default.asp?Find_Quick.asp?PersonEssay=2H9

So now I have some very complete details about Douglas William Hamilton's parents - but still nothing on him  ??? ???

The biography detailed in the link above definitely has the parents living in Dannevirke in 1884 - so why can we not find Douglas William's birth  ???
or death  ???
Title: Re: Search for Douglas William Hamilton
Post by: Mk2_Zephyr on Friday 20 February 09 08:03 GMT (UK)
1930 probate, in New Plymouth

William Douglas 

Title: Re: Search for Douglas William Hamilton
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 20 February 09 08:47 GMT (UK)

1930 probate, in New Plymouth

William Douglas



This William Douglas HAMILTON is buried in the Hawera General cemetery (Presbyterian).    No age given ?

Grrr !    Can't get back to the South Taranaki DC's database
.... keep getting an "error message" !

Need to check who (if anyone) he is buried with ?

Title: Re: Search for Douglas William Hamilton
Post by: DotBrennan on Friday 20 February 09 09:04 GMT (UK)

the William Douglas at Hawera is aged 49.

There is however a Douglas William at Hastings which fits the age at marriage….
http://www.hdc.govt.nz/cem/cemetery_home.html

Bren

Title: Re: Search for Douglas William Hamilton
Post by: johnbarr on Sunday 22 February 09 04:18 GMT (UK)
Thank you Bren, that's looking very promising.
Now if I could only find his birth ???
Title: Re: Search for Douglas William Hamilton
Post by: Sunny_26 on Monday 23 April 18 11:44 BST (UK)
Hi johnbarr

Not sure if you are still chasing this information, but Douglas William was born 24 Apr 1887 in Dannevirke and died 19 Apr 1958 buried in Hastings cemetery.

http://cemeterybase.hdc.govt.nz/Details.aspx?id=508908

Douglas William is my 3rd great uncle. Was your grandmother Abigail Toamia?



Title: Re: Search for Douglas William Hamilton
Post by: johnbarr on Monday 23 April 18 21:19 BST (UK)
Hi Greg,
Thanks for your post and information.

Douglas William Hamilton was my mother's step-father. My grandmother Margaret Jane Vowless 1870-1965 married him 4 Jul 1908 and later divorced him - or the marriage was anulled? See Evening Post 22 Nov 1915 for report from the Supreme Court. I did this research some years ago and cannot remember if I ever found final outcome of the unusual Court case.

I had the cemetery details but I never did find his birth, so thanks for that. May I ask what was your source for that information?

 John B
Title: Re: Search for Douglas William Hamilton
Post by: Sunny_26 on Thursday 26 April 18 08:53 BST (UK)
Hi John

Thanks for that info. I did a little research on Douglas and Margaret and found a few newspapers articles, looks like it was annulled due to claims Margaret was already married. Are you descended from Margarets children prior to this ( apparently she had 3 when she married Douglas) or from her later marriage to Herbert Stubbington?
I recently purchased Douglas Williams death certificate from NZ archives hoping to clarify his DOB but unfortunately it was not recorded. The date I got was from family but it is simply word of mouth and I am not convinced enough to record it confidently. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a birth record for him on NZ BDM.
According to Douglas's death certificate he was married 3 times, twice after your grandmother.

Greg
Title: Re: Search for Douglas William Hamilton
Post by: johnbarr on Thursday 26 April 18 21:10 BST (UK)
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