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Title: occupation and place name please, *completed, thank you*
Post by: Ahmed_U on Wednesday 25 February 09 22:13 GMT (UK)
hi all,

name of place in lincs please, and also what merchant?

thank you

Ahmed
Title: Re: occupation and place name please
Post by: wendy47 on Wednesday 25 February 09 22:14 GMT (UK)
Hi

Corn Merchant
Kettering
Welton
Regards wendy
Title: Re: occupation and place name please
Post by: Ahmed_U on Wednesday 25 February 09 22:21 GMT (UK)
Thank you, Wendy.

would a corn merchant be a farmer producing corn??

Thank you.

Ahmed
Title: Re: occupation and place name please
Post by: Ahmed_U on Wednesday 25 February 09 22:32 GMT (UK)
and the top line too, please!

thank you

Ahmed
Title: Re: occupation and place name please
Post by: wendy47 on Wednesday 25 February 09 23:22 GMT (UK)


Hi Ahmed

A corn merchant's set of 19th Century measures, comprising bushel, peck, gallon, half gallon, quart, pint and half pint

A corn merchant sells corn and if you look at the following website you can see.

http://www.commanet.org/reflect.aspx?action=navselect&rec=5009999900167361&dir=N&language=English&view=large

Wendy
Title: Re: occupation and place name please
Post by: wendy47 on Wednesday 25 February 09 23:25 GMT (UK)
Ahmed

Can you give me the reference number of the Census you got it from please? The reason being as it is easier to compare with other letters.

wendy
Title: Re: occupation and place name please
Post by: carol8353 on Wednesday 25 February 09 23:30 GMT (UK)
Just looked a map of Lincoln,and just to the north east of the city is a place called Dunholme.

Can anyone else see that in that word.......I think I can  ;)
Title: Re: occupation and place name please
Post by: Ahmed_U on Thursday 26 February 09 07:49 GMT (UK)
Just looked a map of Lincoln,and just to the north east of the city is a place called Dunholme.

Can anyone else see that in that word.......I think I can  ;)

Many thanks Wendy and Carol. Yes, it is definitely Dunholme!  :)

That was a great picture of a corn farmer. I am trying to establish, would a corn farmer have been relatively rich?

Thank you.

Ahmed
Title: Re: occupation and place name please
Post by: carol8353 on Thursday 26 February 09 07:52 GMT (UK)

That was a great picture of a corn farmer. I am trying to establish, would a corn farmer have been relatively rich?

Thank you.

Ahmed

Depends if he owned the farm Ahmed or just worked there LOL  ;D
Title: Re: occupation and place name please
Post by: Ahmed_U on Thursday 26 February 09 08:00 GMT (UK)

That was a great picture of a corn farmer. I am trying to establish, would a corn farmer have been relatively rich?

Thank you.

Ahmed

Depends if he owned the farm Ahmed or just worked there LOL  ;D

lol, he did own the farm, I'll post more details later, I am late for work - not sure if my boss would accept me being late because I was researching a corn farmer!!!
Title: Re: occupation and place name please
Post by: wendy47 on Thursday 26 February 09 08:36 GMT (UK)
Sorry

Doesn't look like Dunholme.  as there seems to be an "i" toward the end if the word.

Having said that Welton is the next village, go it is likely.

Where was the census taken?  If you give us the number, we have a better chance of comparing the writing.

Wendy
Title: Re: occupation and place name please
Post by: carol8353 on Thursday 26 February 09 08:41 GMT (UK)
I saw that dot too Wendy  ;) but wondered if it belongs to the line above,and as you say without being able to see the whole page we can't tell.

So when you get to work Ahmed(hope you're not too late!) let us know the ref numbers please.

Carol
Title: Re: occupation and place name please
Post by: Evie on Thursday 26 February 09 09:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Wendy and Carol

I agree it is difficult without seeing the rest of the page. However the writing is pretty clear compared to some. I make it out as Dunleoline. I am wondering if it isn't an actual place name but the name of a building. I also am intrigued as to what other the census state for this person.

Evie
Title: Re: occupation and place name please
Post by: Ahmed_U on Thursday 26 February 09 11:21 GMT (UK)
Thank you all,

It is very likely to be Dunholme, as said earlier, the very close proximity to Welton makes me sure it is that.
This was from the 1901 census for Kettering, for John Stevenson's household.
Reference: RG 13/1447

I have another image, can someone please tell me what it says? John Stevenson used to be a corn farmer in a previous census.

Thank you.

Ahmed

Title: Re: occupation and place name please
Post by: Evie on Thursday 26 February 09 12:14 GMT (UK)
Hi

I tend to agree about Dunholme now. I noticed on the 1891 census Eleanor was down as born Welton.

The last image I see Corn Factor and Dealer in ? I cannot at the moment make that out.

Evie
Title: Re: occupation and place name please
Post by: Pels. on Thursday 26 February 09 12:40 GMT (UK)





(http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=363917.0;id=129786;image)

I believe it says Corn Factor & dealer in Flour Cake .. ?? 
Title: Re: occupation and place name please
Post by: carol8353 on Thursday 26 February 09 12:55 GMT (UK)
I'd agree with Pels-dealer in flour cake..although have no idea what it means.
Title: Re: occupation and place name please
Post by: Ahmed_U on Thursday 26 February 09 12:57 GMT (UK)
Thanks all!
Title: Re: occupation and place name please
Post by: winston on Friday 27 February 09 06:24 GMT (UK)
HI Ahmed_U


found this little snippet regarding being a Corn Factor

the business of a corn factor is perfectly distinct from that of a corn merchant,
because a person who receives consignments, and deals at the same time
on his own account, may not always be inclined to serve his employers with that
impartiality he otherwise would do."


If not already seen you may find this website article interesting


http://www.bahs.org.uk/18n2a3.pdf




Wendy
Title: Re: occupation and place name please
Post by: winston on Friday 27 February 09 06:26 GMT (UK)
HI Ahmed_U

This site simplifies it a bit more for you


http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/c2.html


Just use Edit and Find Corn Factor


Wendy
Title: Re: occupation and place name please
Post by: Ahmed_U on Friday 27 February 09 07:03 GMT (UK)
Many thanks, Wendy!

It seems that John Stevenson used to have a corn farm, and that when he became a little older, he became a corn factor. Makes sense to me!

Thank you.

Ahmed