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Title: Marriage lookup please
Post by: audrey on Thursday 26 February 09 10:50 GMT (UK)
Samual Spencer born 1836 [father Edward] to
Sarah Jones born c 1831[father William Jones mother Elizabeth Foulkes

audrey
first child found Sarah Ann Spencer born Hollywell 1860
Title: Re: Marriage lookup please
Post by: down-under on Thursday 26 February 09 13:01 GMT (UK)
Hello


The only Sarah Ann born 1860 Holywell do you have Samuel and Sarah wife on any censuses??

1861 RG9/4267 folio 27 page 22 Whitford Flintshire Reg district Holywell

Joseph Lloyd widow age 66 Lead Miner Llanasa
Edward Lloyd age 36 son lead miner Whitford
Samuel Spencer age 25 son in law Holywell
Ann wife age 27 Whitford
Sarah A grandau age 8 months Holywell

Ann Lloyd married Samuel Spencer 1858 Holywell Flintshire Mar quarter 11b 389


Pam
Title: Re: Marriage lookup please
Post by: audrey on Thursday 26 February 09 13:17 GMT (UK)
I have the birth cert for the youngest child
Jermima Spencer born 26/6/1873 Glanydon Hollywell father Samual Spencer [coal miner] mother Sarah Spencer formaly Jones
Samual Spencer died 28/9/1893 in Mostyn

Audrey
Title: Re: Marriage lookup please
Post by: down-under on Thursday 26 February 09 13:52 GMT (UK)
1871 Whitford Flintshire

Edward Lloyd age 41 lab Whitford
Samuel Spencer age 33 brother in law Holywell
Ann Spencer age 36 sister Whitford
Sarah Ann niece age 10 Holywell
Edward nephew age 7 Whitford

Ann Spencer died  Mar quarter Holywell 1872 age 39 11b 172

Samuel Spencer married Sarah Jones sept quarter 1872 Holywell Flintshire  11b 373

Pam
Title: Re: Marriage lookup please
Post by: audrey on Thursday 26 February 09 14:17 GMT (UK)
Pam
I got the info from the older children from Samuel Spencer's bible
Sarah Ann bor 1860
Thomas born 1864
Edward born 1865
Mary born 1870
Jemima born 1873
not a mension of his first wife so I presumed[wrongly that all of them were Sarah's

thanks for putting me right

Audrey
Title: Re: Marriage lookup please
Post by: Paul on Friday 27 February 09 19:23 GMT (UK)
Hello Audrey.
Whitford marriage Feb 13 1858.
Samuel Spencer(x) 22. Bachelor. Occ, Miner. Abode, Holywell. Father, Edward. Occ, Miner.
Ann Lloyd 24. Spinster. Abode, Lloc. Father, Joseph. Occ, Miner.
Whitnesses. Thomas Hughes(x) & Elizabeth Williams(x)
(x)= didn't sign made mark.

I had a quick look but couldn't see any childrens baptisms :(

I can't get the details of Samuels marriage to Sara as it was a Civil marriage.

Paul.
Title: Re: Marriage lookup please
Post by: audrey on Friday 27 February 09 19:41 GMT (UK)
Paul
yes that is Samuels first marriage [I dident know he had been married befor]
  Samuel Spencer [from his bible ] was  born 24/1/1836 father Edward Spencer mother Grace so the age fits and it would seem non of this family could write as Jemima Spencer his daughter also made her mark X when she married William Francis I wonder why Samual never pu his wife in the bible ?

thanks

Audrey
Title: Re: Marriage lookup please
Post by: down-under on Saturday 28 February 09 04:14 GMT (UK)
Hello

It looks like Sarah Ann was named after her grandmother and mother.

1851 H0107/2500 folio 237 page 19 Whitford Flintshire

Tarthy Dwr?
Joseph Lloyd age 55 miner Llansa
Sarah wife age 40 Whitford
Edward son age 26 Miner Whitford
William son age 26 transcriber has put 24 looks like 26  lab whitford
Ann dau age 18 servant born Whitford

1841 H0107/1407 / 27 folio 8 page 7 Whitford Flintshire
Lloch?
Joseph Lloyd age 40 L Miner all born in county
Sarah Lloyd age 35
Edward age 15
Williams age 15
Ann age 10


Edward and the Spencers 1871 RG10/5638 folio 45 page 22 Whitford

1881 Whitford Flintshire


Edwd Lloyd age 56 Lead Miner

1891 RG12/4604 folio 12 page 7  Whitford lloc Flintshire

Edward Lloyd age 68 lead miner Whitford
Sarah A Parry age 30 niece married born Cwn Flintshire
John Parry husband mar   age 22 farm lab Cwn

Sarah Ann Spencer married John Parry June quarter 1888  Holywell Flintshire 11b 386

1901 RG13/5208  folio 49 page 18 Whitford Flintshire


Felui Blwm?
John Parry age 32 Cwn Flintshire Stockman on Farm
Sarah A wife age 37 Holywell
Sarah E dau age 10 Llanasa

Where are Thomas and Mary Spencer? They are not with the parents 1871.


Pam
Title: Re: Marriage lookup please
Post by: Paul on Sunday 01 March 09 00:24 GMT (UK)
Let me know if there is anything I might be able to help you with.

Paul.
Title: Re: Marriage lookup please
Post by: audrey on Sunday 01 March 09 08:20 GMT (UK)
Samuel Spencer head M Male age45 coal miner Wales 
 Sarah SPENCER   Wife   M   Female   46   Wales       
 Sarah Ann SPENCER   Daur   U   Female   19   Wales       
 Thomas SPENCER   Son   U   Male   17   Wales   Coal Miner     
 Edward SPENCER   Son   U   Male   16   Wales   Coal Miner     
 Mary SPENCER   Daur      Female   11   Wales   Scholar     
 Iso...ia SPENCER   Daur      Female   7   Wales   Scholar [ this must be Jemima]
the above is from the 1881 census    office Row Trimdon Durham England
Jemima married William Francis he was born hollywell Flint 23/7/1870 .marriage was in 1891 in Durham  but I can not him on 1881 census nor can I find either of the on 1891 from the birth of the first son Thomas William Francis born 9/9/1893 in Hollwell they must have returned to Wales for several years returning again to Durham 1905
Thanks for the offer Paul I am just returning to this side of the family as I wrote it off
Names connected are JONES and Foulkes

Audrey