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Research in Other Countries => Other Countries => Topic started by: petea777 on Sunday 01 March 09 13:53 GMT (UK)
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Dear all,
Have been trying to find a number of answers to two branches of family and unfortunately cannot find anything out via Fibis and other weblinks previously suggested.
1. Looking for 3 persons who were understood to be in the Army in India and may even have died there. These are: Sydney Anstis b 1872, Robert Anstis b 1877 and Reginald Anstis b 1887.
2. Another branch of family settled in Darjeeling to work on tea plantations by the name of Sarah (ex Anstis) and Henry or Harry Dominey and I can find no further information in respect to these people.
Given the nature of the held records is it likely that a visit to the NA is the only real solution to find out further information? Thanks in advance for any advice received.
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Found this one in Find My Past Shipping Records 1890-1960 or do you already have.
Mr G.H DOMING Planter
Mrs DOMING no age for either.
Ship, Sicilia departed London 25th October 1913, they disembarked at Bombay
Theres is one. LESLEY ALFRED ANSTIS age 26 Tea Broker
Lon to Calcutta on Nevasa 16th Jan 1920.
plus earlier same guy,
L.A ANSTIS age 20 tea taster.
Lon to Calcutta 10th May 1913.on Nagoya.
nothing on Sydney,Robert,or Reginald.
Brionne.
Modified sorry I had mis spelt name is actually DOMING after rechecking Find My Past.
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Brionne,
Many thanks for the email but since my original email I have managed to find out some further information regarding:
1. For one branch of the family who we understood may have been in the Army in India and may even have died there.
These are revised to:
a) Harold WJ (?) Anstis b 1871 and Robert Anstis b 1877 - disappear after 1891 census (possibly in India?)
c) Reginald Anstis b 1887 - disappears after 1901 census
2. We now understand that the surname of Sarah (ex Anstis) and Henry or Harry was DOMING (not Dominey). So the information you found was based upon my poor information, sorry :-[! We also found that they had (at least) the following children:
a) Harry Doming b 1876 d ?
b) Willie Doming b 1879 in Kurseong India d ?
c) Charlie Lionel Doming b 1881 in Kurseong India d ?
d) Jane Doming b 1884 in ? India d in NZ ?
e) Netta Doming b? in ? d ?
3. It would be really great if someone can find some further information on all the above as we have hit a brick wall.
4. Many thanks for your assistance to date.
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Please see correction in my post name mispelt by mistake,
should be DOMING
Brionne.
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Brionne,
Thanks, it could be them on a return trip to India but looking at childrens birthdates they must have been in India pre 1876 as a number were born there.
Pete
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The I.G.I has this several DOMING in West Bengal.In case you dont have this.
JANE DOMING baptised 24 June 1883 India Office Ecclesiastical Returns Bengal
Presidency India.
Parents Harry and Sarah Ann Doming.
GEORGE FREDERICK DOMING bap 18 March 1882 Kurseong West Bengal.
WILLIAM ERASMUS DOMING bap 20 Oct 1878 Ecclesiastical Returns -Bengal
Presidency.
SARAH GEORGINA DOMING bap 23 Nov 1879 as above.
JOHN HENRY DOMING birth 15 July 1889 Kurseong
Bap 15 Sept 1889 West Bengal India.
All children of HARRY and SARAH ANN DOMING
Brionne.
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Brionne,
Many thanks for your help to date. Two Q's if I may:
a) what is IGI, can this be accessed?
b) Can you please suggest where I can find any further info. on where the family lived, who they worked for, are buried, still in India? etc
Pete
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Hi Again,
I.G.I is FAMILY SEARCH being the mammoth site of the Latter Day Saints Church
at Salt Lake Utah. World wide Births Marriages and Deaths info,invaluable in tracing Family
members,ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES NOT ALWAYS CORRECT,need to double check with another source.
Berlin Bob has put on very many links for tracing in India,click on OTHER COUNTRIES RESOURCES Theres masses of info on just about everything do with the British in India.
BRITISH INDIA RECORDS are held at the,BRITISH LIBRARY ORIENTAL and INDIA OFFICE
COLLECTION,
96,EUSTON RD, LONDON NW1 2DB.
Web site, FamilyRecords.gov.uk.
Brionne.
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Brionne,
1. Many thanks. Most of the links suggested have proved fruitless I am afraid so a trip to the India Office maybe the only answer!
2. Thanks again for the info to-date.
Pete
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Brionne,
Many thanks for the email but since my original email I have managed to find out some further information regarding:
1. For one branch of the family who we understood may have been in the Army in India and may even have died there.
These are revised to:
a) Harold WJ (?) Anstis b 1871 and Robert Anstis b 1877 - disappear after 1891 census (possibly in India?)
c) Reginald Anstis b 1887 - disappears after 1901 census
2. We now understand that the surname of Sarah (ex Anstis) and Henry or Harry was DOMING (not Dominey). So the information you found was based upon my poor information, sorry :-[! We also found that they had (at least) the following children:
a) Harry Doming b 1876 d ?
b) Willie Doming b 1879 in Kurseong India d ?
c) Charlie Lionel Doming b 1881 in Kurseong India d ?
d) Jane Doming b 1884 in ? India d in NZ ?
e) Netta Doming b? in ? d ?
3. It would be really great if someone can find some further information on all the above as we have hit a brick wall.
4. Many thanks for your assistance to date.
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Greetings
Jane Dominy - daughter of Harry was my grandmother who married Sydney Harold Peterson and who passed away in NZ in 1979 in Auckland NZ.
England & Wales BMD records show Harry Dominy and Sarah Ann Anstis married in the last quarter of 1874.
I believe I may be able to help you with some information and will organise my records should you be interested.
Regards
Warwick
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Hi,
1. Great news, thanks for responding to the earlier post. It's a great site Roots! I had a response also from sharyn555, I assume that was part of the same post.
2. Sarah was an older sister to my G/GF William Anstis b 1854. In fact Sarah Ann (to give her correct title!) had an elder sister Mary Joan (died 5 yoa), 3 older brothers James Tucker b 1843, Robert b 1848 and Samuel b 1850 and a younger brother (my G/GF).
3. My tree shows your GM Jane had three children John, George & Frank (Peterson?) and that she born in India circa 1882. I also found that Jane was living with her Uncle Robert in Bath according to 1901 census. So, presumably she emigrated to NZ after 1901?
4. Sarah Ann & Harry (Henry?) Doming/Dominy went to India (between 1876 - 1878?) and had 5 sons and 3 daughters? It would be great to find out more about them and their lives.
5. I would be interested to find out more of all the family if possible and perhaps you would be kind enough to send me a personal response via Roots?
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Hi
My pleasure to assist where possible - Sharyn is my sister who has a daughter in Darjeerling touring at this time.
My tree is on Genes Reunited for your info.
Interesting that you mention that Jane was in the 1901 UK Census as I was unable to find her.
As to the Dominy name - I believe that is the correct spelling of the name is as I have set out. All the documentation has been in this name. I have a Kurseong Extract for her baptism plus a copy of the original Certificate of Marriage between her and Sidney Peterson where they were married in Bombay.
Her details are:Jane Dominy
Born at Kurseong on the 05/05/1883.
Baptised at Christ Church Kurseong on 24 /6/1883
She married Sidney Harold Peterson who had been in the British Army but discharged 1912. He was married to a Ivy Davies at that stage but she died.
Jane married Sidney on 23 /2/1920 in Bombay and had the three boys as you have on your tree.
When in NZ they lived in Auckland until Jane passed away in 1977.
I have little information about the Dominy family or Jane's brothers and sisters as I have been unable to find away to get this info.
Hope this is a help.
Cheers
Warwick
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Hi
Messed up my first entry somehow but I was so interested in your posting. My daughter is currently on holiday in Darjeeling and saw a donated item from a Geo Dominey in a museum there. In response I googled ‘Dominey’ and ‘Darjeeling’ and got your posting! Warwick has been following up the Peterson side of our family but the Dominy/Anstis side has been a mystery. Our dad Frank died in 1996 and we were not interested in our family history until after that time I guess. Jane died when I was 24 and I visited with her often but she didn’t talk about India or England that I can remember looking back. I know that she was a governess in her adult life before marriage and travelled to Europe in the course of that work. She met our grandfather I believe on a ship. He was widowed and travelling with his children. Jane was 37 I calculate when that marriage took place so she started her family at an advanced age. She was 94 when she died.They married and had the three sons you have recorded. Our father was the youngest, Frank. The oldest - John – was born deaf and when my father was 5 the family left India for Christchurch, NZ where there was a school for the deaf. Sidney Peterson was a NZer from Dunedin so NZ was probably a natural choice. I don’t know how long the family was in Christchurch but they must have moved to Auckland very quickly because we have school photos of my father at a young age in Auckland.as far as I know Jane didn’t travel out of NZ again once she arrived here. I don’t know anything about her parents and they didn’t visit her to my knowledge. John married and had 6 children and they live in Auckland. I saw them recently at his ex wife’s funeral. He has been dead for 3 or 4 years. George went to Australia about 45 years ago and I haven’t heard about that part of the family for many years. I know George died some years ago.
I noticed your query about Samuel Anstis. Hilda Gain ( I presume Anstis before marriage) was a regular visitor to Jane in my childhood and her daughter Daphne used to visit our parents with Hilda when Hilda was old. I was not sure where she fitted into the family until I saw your query. Daphne lives or used to ( I haven’t seen her since my father died) on the North Shore in Auckland.
Also, for many years my father wrote to Jane’s sister who lived in India and I feel sure it was in Darjeeling . She had a son who lived with her and I am not sure but I think that he was a doctor.
I was interested to read that Jane was in Bath in 1901 as I feel quite interested in her early life.
Great to have made this contact with you
Sharyn
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Hello
Harry (born Henry I think ?) Dominy, my great grandfather, married Sarah Anne Anstis in 1874 in Devon, England and left for India 2 years later. They had between 6 and 10 children (still trying to validate all). We visited India earlier this year and are getting closer. We met with Teddy Young (son of Margaret Dominy who married Lt Young an Army doctor. Ted is 89 and a retired tea planter. My grandfather was John Henry who I think was the last to be born in 1889. John Henry managed various tea estates which he took over from Harry.
Jeff
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Hello Pete and Jeff
This is really starting to take off thanks to this site. Your news is most welcome, Jeff, as it seems to provide information I thought was lost with my father’s death in 1996. My dad Frank, son of Jane Dominy, used to correspond with Jane’s sister and son who lived in the Darjeeling area somewhere. I didn’t pay much attention at the time unfortunately. It sounds as though you may have visited with the son. I thought there was a doctor somehow involved in the family and now I see the link. I would be interested in an address for him. Perhaps we could communicate by a personal response via Roots – though I am not sure how to do that myself yet.
Jeff, you must be quite a close relative to Warwick and I. I would be interested to know what happened to your line of the family and which country you live in now. Thanks to Pete I have got a list of 6 children of Sarah and Harry Dominy and some details about them as well as 6 of Sarah Ann’s siblings with dates.
Thanks, Pete, for that personal response – it filled in some gaps for me and it seems as though we are going to get that Indian information now that Jeff has turned up. I have rummaged through our photo collection and found some photos of relevance – a lovely studio portrait of Harry Dominy with name so it is definitely him plus another excellent quality photo of Samuel and Elizabeth Anstis provided by Hilda to Jane. I also found a small one of nana Jane in 1931 with I think Samuel Anstis and Elizabeth and another couple who appear to be younger than Jane holding a baby. Samuel Anstis has Jane’s 3 sons beside and on his knees. I also found a good photo of Hilda Gane and my nana Jane standing together as old ladies. Are you interested in photos?
Sharyn
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Hello Pete (who are you ?) and Sharyn.
I don't think there are any Domings ! I think it is a mis-spelling of Dominy. I live just West of London England. I was born (*). I am e mailing with Warwick to try and ascertain how many children Harry and Sarah Anne had between them. They were my great grandparents and their offspring my great aunts/uncles. My father was Wilfrid John and his father John Henry. John Henry lived with his wife Esme and their 5 boys in India. They were all born there. They got out of India to England in 1938 except for one son Hugh who returned to run the tea plantations that Harry and John Henry had managed earlier. I would love to speak with Sharyn's daughter and compare notes about India. Our trip last March /April was FANTASTIC. We were made VERY welcome by all we met and we met many people. I was joined by my wife (*), one of my sons, (*), while his wife was in early pregnancy, my cousin (*) from the USA (one of two daughters of Denis Dominy, the last to be born to John Henry and Esme) and her friend (*).
Can we exchange e mail addresses ? Mine is: (*)
(*) Moderator Note: email address and details of living people removed in accordance with Rootschat policy
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Hi Pete Sharyn and Brionne
I don't think it is Doming but Dominy. Harry (born Henry but married as Harry I think) Dominy (my great grandfather) married Sarah Anne Anstis in Upottery Devon in 1874 and left for India 2 years later. They had between 6 and 10 offspring (still trying to ascertain the facts). Poor "young" Sarah died at age 46 but Harry continued to reach 85. When we were in Kurseong Cemetery we found the headstones of two children, Sarah Georgina and George Frederick, who died in infancy but their parents, who were also buried there, had no headstones. I believe Harry's father was a Henry born 1813 and he too was married to a Sarah born 1816. A hugh number of Dominys and Anstis' seem to have come from Devon, England. I suspect Harry and Sarah Anne were not the only ones to have emigrated to India.
Jeff
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Hello all,
1. Firstly to Jeff, I agree the Roots website is fantastic with some very helpful people on it. Looking on the tree and the information below both your parents were cousins (?) so that makes you Warwick and Sharyn 2nd cousins (?). So, I suspect you will uncover some real interesting information between you.
2. Brionne is not a relative but someone who helped get this thing rolling against one of my earlier posts. Thanks Brionne, I will drop her a personal email. If you look at some of the earlier posts you will see details of children that were posted. There could be others but my reckoning there were 3 girls and 5 boys.
3. My research is centred on the Anstis family (Sarah Ann Anstis was a sister to my G G/F) but the information coming out is of real interest not only for me but my father who started me off on this research. So, any further information unearthed would be fantastic!
4. As posted previously, some of Sarah Ann and Harry's children returned to the UK to stay with Aunts and Uncles before returning to India or emigrating elsewhere i.e NZ, OZ etc. or others remained in India.
5. I assume Margaret Dominy (married Dr Lt Young) was known as Netta (?) that's the name on my tree.
6. I'm not sure about the etiquette for email address's on the general site so please send me a personal posting if you prefer?
7. Sharyn. That would be fantastic if you can as I don't believe we have any of either Samuel Anstis or his sister Sarah Ann. As you are aware, my father wrote with Hilda Gane regularly and so he would be particularly interested in those. I think we would then have a "set" of pictures for his Great Uncles and Aunts. I will send you a personal response with my address if you would be kind enough to send copies on with names (if known) of course!
Great stuff!!!
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Peter
I don't think my photograph of Annetta got through ? Incidentally, although I have many photographs of India in 1920s/30s, one which I would dearly love to see is Sarah Anne Dominy (nee Anstis). Do I take it you reside in the UK ?
Jeff
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Hi Jeff,
Yes, up in Manchester. No I didn't receive the picture I'm afraid of Annetta. However, it would be interesting to see pictures of where Sarah Ann and Harry lived/worked in India. Do you have any that you could copy and send to me please?
I'm hoping Sharyn will be able to find some of Sarah Ann Anstis and Harry as I don't have any.
Pete
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Hi Pete
It just dropped ! I guess you are Pete Anstis ?
I have quite a few pictures of Harry but , sadly, none, of Sarah Anne. I will check with my cousin in America just in case she has one. I don't seem able to send pictures via this chat room but can, of course, via normal personal e mail. I am now communicating well with Sharyn. I live 25 miles west of London and have an Anstis contact in Bray on Thames who approached me via the Devon Family History Society (well worth joining for the Anstis' history I suspect.
Cheers
Jeff
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Hi Jeff,
Yes, that's correct. No, for some reason the Roots picture of Netta didn't get through so I will email you with my address so if you would be kind enough to send any pics to that and I can then view accordingly.
Glad you have made the contact with your NZ family that should prove very worthwhile I suspect. Can you let me know who your Anstis Bray contact is as that could help me further on tracking the Anstis name, perhaps you can send via my email address taht I will send that follows this message?
I aagree the Devon FHS is very useful with some very helpfull members. As your family originated from Gittisham, Devon. See Census 1841 RG No. HO107 Piece 206 Book 4 Page 3 under the name DominG!
Ok, will send a separate email shortly.
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Hi there, I wonder if any of you lovely people have come across the name Yvonne or Lewens in relation to Henry Doming. Talking to our father last night, he mentioned Henry's name in relation to his great aunt, and a link to India and Tea. Grateful for any info x
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Hi,
I haven't as its not on my direct line but I may know a person who may do as she has done much research on the Dominy family and has been to India and the very tea plantations. I'm surprised she has not picked up your post as she is on previous links. Perhaps if you send a message to sharyn555 she maybe able to assist.
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Hi. petea777 mentioned me. The Henry Doming you refer to was possibly Harry Dominy, my gt gt grandfather 1850-1936. He worked on the Makaibari and Gayabari Tea Estates, and retired to Selim Hill TE where his son was manager. The name Lewens does seem familiar but a quick look through my many records didn't bring the name forward. How did your father know the name Henry Doming and what was the family connection with tea in India? Do you know the name of the great aunt? Happy to help if I can.
Sharyn