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I am new on the site and I am intrested in Owen Elias and his son William Owen Elias and his family my conection is with Owen Elias sister Emma.
William O Elias built a further series of streets with the initial
that gave the name of his eldest son, E Alfred.
These start at Espin st and finish at Dyson st, thus these Generations of this family of welsh buildersshare in the memorial. It is said that Owen Elias was chairman of the first meeting in Liverpool addressed by John Bright and it was at this meeting the phrase " Liverpool as the capital of Wales.
Owen Elias came to liverpool with two of his brothers one was Edward Elias, then there was William Elias. William O Elias was married to Martha Williams in 1870 martha father was William William the first welsh town councillor of Liverpool. I have the Welsh builder on merseyside it dose hold a lot of information
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1891 RG12/2979/107/50
All born LIverpool Lancashire
William O elias 41 estate agent
Martha 38
Alfred 15
Frank
Frederick 10
Jessie 8
Hilda 6
Jane Williams 31 sister in law, living on own means
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1871 RG10/3817/147/39 All born Liverpool
Owen Elias 64 builder b Wales
Jane 46
GL dau23
WO son 21 builder
DT son 16
AA dau 13
HS dau 13
HE dau 9
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1851 HO107/2190/25/42 Liverpool, Everton Netherfield Rd North
Owen Elias 44 joiner and builder employing 19 men b Anglesey
Jane 27
Jane Sarah 6
Grace 3
Wm O 1
born Liverpool
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HO107/piece 563/book 3/ed 6/folio 10/page 12 [ages rounded down to nearest five]
address, look as though it could be Virginia St ?? Liverpool
not born in county.
Owen Elias 30 builer
William Elias 32 builder
Edward Elias 25 joiner
Margaret Elias 27 housekeeper
Elizabeth Elias 15
Grace Elias 15 [these three look in a separate household same house]
John Elias 30
Grace Elias 20
But no Emma ?
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Marriage
Dec 1841 W Derby, 20/688
Owen Ellias to Jane Lewis
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The others in 1851
HO107/2190/31/55
Netherfield Rd North W Derby
William Ellias 42 proprietor of houses
Edward 37 ditto
Margaret 38
Elizabeth 26
all b Llandadig Anglesey
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1861 rg9/2719/33/20 Netherfield Rd
Owen Elias 54 builder emp 43 men b Anglesey
Jane 37
Jane 16
Grace 13
William 11
David 6
Owen 4
Alice 3
Hannah 3
plus four servants and a visitor Celia Edwards b Wales
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Fascinating story!
On today's map, just west of the streets:
Espin
Askew
Linton
Frodsham
Ripon
Emery
Dyson
there are a set:
Oxton
Winslow
Eton
Neston
Andrew
Nimrod
Dane
Wilburn
Ismay
Lind
Lowell
Ismay
Arnot
... and then nothing. Are we missing a M-street? ;)
Perhaps there are more! I shall keep a look out when I look at street names now.
The Times, Saturday, Jan 14, 1888; pg. 11; Issue 32282; col F
Election Intelligence
Liverpool (Walton Division)
Mr J. G. Gibson had left his seat, and the Gladstonians had asked Owen Elias, builder, to become a candidate, but he declined.
http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/
- search for the phrase Elias, William Owen and there's information on his bankruptcy in 1889.
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Hi Jorose 3850.
Thank you for your map of the streets, my sister and I walked the street's to find Owen and William Elias. names we took photograph of the name plates from the streets and of couse some of the whole streets, this is the names we followed.
Oxon, Winslow, Eton, Neston, Andrew, Nimrod, Dane, Wilburn, Ismay, Lowell, Lind, Index, Arnot, Makin. Olney, Weldon, Euston, Nixon, Eton, Liston, Imrie, Astor, Stuart.
Hope this helps I will look at the http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/ as soon as I can that would be intresting. and thank you for the info on the Times paper regards Nickon
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owen elias was my great great grand father ,william owen elias , my great grandfather ,c f elias my grand father
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Hi westkirby It is nice to get in touch with someone who is connected to the Elias.
I was at Llanfechell were Owen Elias done his training before he came to Liverpool, and we came across the Grave of John Elias son of John Elias the Rev who was well known in the 1800 cen his wife Elizabeth who died age 59. was buried in the next grave to there son.
I know that the John Elias met Owen but are they relatives ?
My connection is Emma Elias she is in Edwards and Williams Elias Will it gives alot of names. Emma was my Great Great grandmother Who is your Grand father C F Elias. I am from Liverpool.
I have a photo of Owen Elias Grave, and Edward, William, Hugh, and Margaret, grave if there is a way of sending you them if you don't all ready have them. My email is in my profile. Do you have any info on Emma Elias I have her marriage certificate and Owen Elias death and Williams death, my Great grandmother was called Grace she was Emma's daughter one of her children was John Richard Micheal he was my grandfather. love to here from you regards val
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Hello there :)
Im relatively new to this site.
And came across this page on a google search.
The name Owen Elias jumped out at me, so did Liverpool.
My name is Emma Elias, im 17, and i live just outside Glasgow.
But, my greatgrandfather, who is 88 at the moment, Peter, was born in liverpool.
And our family tree has been researched back to 1674 in Wales :)
So i think we might be related somehow :)
If you want more details let me know, because i have alot of them :)
xxxx
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Hi Littleoddity this is Nickon lovely to here from you what a great name you have
The name of my great great grandmother, its one of Emma's daughters this is were we come in Grace Owen and she married Owen Michael and one of there son's was John Richard Michael who was my grandfather.
Yes I live in Liverpool most of my life.
So you come from Glasgow, I would love to no were your grandfather Peter is connected and your self and you have gone back to 1674 that is very good
My email is (*) love to here from you and anything you could give me and ask me if you want any details from me regards Val
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For some reason, your email was removed, probably because of moderators etc.
This is really very interesting.
alot of the names which you have mentioned i have on my family tree.
I hope you can follow this :P
Grace appears, as sister to William Owen Elias, David thomas elias, owen, alice, hannah and Jane.
David thomas Elias married a woman named Jeanette Marsh.
Their Children were Percy Rees Elias, Elsie Dilys Elias, And Owen Tudor Elias.
Owen Tudor Elias, married a woman named Mabel Damsell.
Their children were
= Pauline Beatrice (deceased), who married and had two children...
= Arthur Tudor Elias, who married Lois Robinson. The had two children...
=June May Elias (died this year) married Neil Robinson, They had two children ...
= Peter Damsell Elias (aged 89) (Also Twin to June May), Married Sarah (sadie Adam) (aged 86)after meeting her in Woolworths in paisley high street in 1943, They Had one Son ...
My great Grandfather peter met my grandmother while on leave when he was working for the navy in some form, then after that he decided to move from liverpool to paisley to marry Sadie. And they are still there :)
Hope this has helped :)
xxxx
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For some reason, your email was removed, probably because of moderators etc.
The email address was removed for the same reason as I've just removed details of all the living relatives in your post. Rootschat isn't a forum for tracing living people but it's noce when relatives do find each other. If you want to exchange email address, recent family details,e tc. please do so by PM (personal message) rather than on the boards.
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Hi Littleoddity thank you for your information I can follow what you said. Your great grandfather was a twin there are Nickson twins in my Nickson side my fathers side of my tree
thank you, I have not got to put in any living relatives, so here goes
First I have Owen Elias married to a Jane Jones in1834 ?
not Lewiss
Here is my side of the tree Owen Michael married Grace Owen 1861, and there children were: John R Michael B 1880, Hugh Owen Michael1862, William E Michael 1863, Edward R Michael1871, Emma Michael 1866, Grace E Michael 1869, Margaret Jane Michael1873, Mary A Michae 1879, Catherine Michael 1883. Grace there mother I have as born Abt 1842. There father Owen Michael was born 1836 he died 1906 age 71 Hope you can understand this Emma Hope to here from you regards Val nice to talk to you
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My we are a long way down the line but in answer to an earlier question, I think the missing 'M' from Owen and William is Mandeville (Street).
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Hi all
My great grandfather was Owen Tudor Elias. My grandmother was one of his daughters June Elias.
Littleoddity if you read this, we should be in touch as we are related - your great grandfather Peter was my Granny June’s twin.
Amy
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Hi Amy!
Apologies I haven't been on here in a while! Lovely to connect with you though! 😁 would be nice to get to know some more of the family. 🙂 hope to hear from you soon.
Emma
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Sorry, I have deleted my own post due to incorrect info given.