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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Mayo => Topic started by: Manchester Rambler on Tuesday 15 February 05 17:25 GMT (UK)
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Looking for any info concerning John Griffin (farmer) and Mary MacCann, who married in Kilmovee in 1840. One known son: Michael, b. 1847. Also John Caulfield and Honor Horan, who married prior to 1849. One known child: Mary Ann, b. 1849. Thomas Caulfield, b. 1865 is also part of this family. Michael and Mary Ann married in 1872, and their son Thomas came to Manchester in the 1890's.
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Hiya. I have a list of baptisms from Uggool, Kilmovee that include some Griffins. Do you want me to send you the list thru email? Mine are the O'Donnell/Regans.
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Thanks - that would be great. Will send a PM with my e-mail address.
MR
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Hello Manchester Rambler
I have just come across your post from 2005. I know it is 10 years old but I can see you are still active on this site.
I have been researching my HIGGINS family for a number of years. My Grandfather was JAMES HIGGINS born about 1871 in County Mayo who went to Prescot, Lancashire before 1901 and then to Liverpool around 1905 and died there in 1938. From his Marriage Certificate I found his father was JAMES HIGGINS a farmer.
After having looked at all the JAMES HIGGINS who had a son James who was not on the Irish 1901 Census and who had not died I am pretty certain that the JAMES HIGGINS who married BRIDGET GRIFFIN on 17 February 1857 at Kilmovee RC Church are my Great Grandparents. They were living in Uggool, Kilmovee in 1901. James had died between 1901-1911 and BRIDGET was still living in Uggool in 1911.
Witnesses to JAMES HIGGINS & BRIDGET GRIFFIN's marriage were James Duffy and Anna Griffin
Their children were:-
1. MARY HIGGINS baptised 6 July 1858 Kilmovee RC Church-living at Cloonamna-Godparents Michael Griffin and Catherine Moran. This Mary died.
2. CATHERINE HIGGINS baptised 23 February 1862 Kilmovee RC Church-living at Uggool-Godparents James Griffin & Mary Griffin. CATHERINE was still single in 1911
3. PATRICK HIGGINS baptised 14 July 1864 Kilmovee RC Church-living at Uggool-Godparents James Griffin & Winifred Griffin. PATRICK HIGGINS married CATHERINE DUFFY of Clooniron on 6 February 1904. Witnesses were James Griffin and Mary Frain. I think Patrick died in 1951.
4. MARY HIGGINS baptised 26 October 1867 Kilmovee RC Church-living at Uggool-Godparents Patrick Griffin & Winifred Griffin. MARY HIGGINS married THOMAS McCANN of Killaclare on 21 February 1897. Witnesses were James McCann & Bridget Griffin.
5. BRIDGET HIGGINS baptised 30 March 1869 Kilmovee RC Church-living at Uggool-Godparents Patrick Higgins & Winifred Griffin. I can't find a Death or Marriage for Bridget Higgins. I sent for a Death Certificate for a Bridget Higgins who died in Sept 1869 but she was the daughter of PATRICK HIGGINS & MARY GARA of Uggool. I can't see any other likely ones who have died. I don't know whether she has married a GRIFFIN or not as there was a Bridget Griffin witness at her sister Mary's marriage in 1897.
6. JAMES HIGGINS baptised 11 June 1871 Kilmovee RC Church-living at Uggool-Godparents PATRICK CAULFIELD & Mary Griffin. I think this JAMES is my Grandfather.
7. PETER HIGGINS baptised 18 November 1876 Kilmovee RC Church-living at Uggool-Godparents Patrick Griffin & Winifred Griffin. Peter Higgins died 29 May 1877 at Uggool-Informant was THOMAS HORAN.
I was wondering if you have any HIGGINS as your GRIFFIN, McCANN, CAULFIELD & HORAN appear in this HIGGINS family that I think is mine.
Regards
Pat Berry in Australia
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Hi Pat,
I'm afraid I missed the notification of your post, so apologies for the late reply!
It certainly looks as though the families may be related - all those surnames are in my family, but unfortunately I can't match any of them exactly. I haven't found any Higgins connections in Kilmovee yet, but I need to take another look at this branch of the family, and if I find anything I'll let you know.
Rambler
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Hello Rambler
Thank you for your reply.
Another name that may be related is O'DONNELL.
At the moment I am going through the O'Donnell's of Uggool/Egool.
Where are your CAULFIELD's from?
Pat
Hi Pat,
I'm afraid I missed the notification of your post, so apologies for the late reply!
It certainly looks as though the families may be related - all those surnames are in my family, but unfortunately I can't match any of them exactly. I haven't found any Higgins connections in Kilmovee yet, but I need to take another look at this branch of the family, and if I find anything I'll let you know.
Rambler
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Hi,
My Caulfields are from Rusheens, and (possibly!) later at Carralackey, unless there are 2 couples with the same names. The Griffins are from Leveelick.
Rambler
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Hello Manchester Rambler
Thank you for your reply regarding your Caulfield's and Griffin's. I am going through all that I have found so far and I may get back to you.
Thanks again
Regards
Pat Berry
Hi,
My Caulfields are from Rusheens, and (possibly!) later at Carralackey, unless there are 2 couples with the same names. The Griffins are from Leveelick.
Rambler
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Hi Pat38, not sure if you're aware but there was a second Higgins families at Uggool (Eggool) during the periods you've mentioned who also had a father and son named James (father was 49, son 18 in 1901) - they're on my own tree.
I'm a Flatley and have Higgins and Horans within my tree (hence my interest in this thread). I note the date of the thread so wont post any specific details as yet just in case it's expired!
Manchester Rambler - I'm pretty sure there are still Cauldfields in Carralackey today (I've often passed through there when travelling between Kilmovee and Charlestown).
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Hello flatley2bsure
Thank you for your message. Yes I did know there was another James Higgins with son James in Uggool in 1901. He can't be my James Higgins as his son James was in Uggool in 1901. The other James Higgins with wife Bridget Griffin had a son born 1871 and he is not with them in 1901. I think he was my Grandfather James Higgins who was in Prescot, Lancashire, England in 1901. He was from County Mayo and died in Liverpool, England in 1938 aged 68yrs. Since the Civil Registrations have gone online I have found that there was another James Higgins in Uggool who died prior to 16 January 1901 as his son Dominick married on that day at Kilmovee RC Church to Kate Carty. I couldn't see a Death for him but could be one of those with just an index. I also found that there was another Patrick Higgins in Uggool prior to 1901 who was living in Barcull in 1901. He was married to Mary Higgins on 26 Feb 1856 at Kilmovee RC Church and had their first child Thomas on 22 December 1856 in Cloonamna.
I think this Patrick Higgins or Mary Higgins is related to who I think is my G Grandfather James Higgins of Uggool. It maybe Mary Higgins is his sister. Patrick's father may have been Thomas Higgins.
Also James Higgins and Bridget Griffin had their first child Mary in Cloonamna in 1858. Then the following ones were born in Uggool.
The James Higgins in your tree who is married to Mary Harken has a father James also.
Looking forward to hearing more from you.
Regards
Pat Bedrry
Hi Pat38, not sure if you're aware but there was a second Higgins families at Uggool (Eggool) during the periods you've mentioned who also had a father and son named James (father was 49, son 18 in 1901) - they're on my own tree.
I'm a Flatley and have Higgins and Horans within my tree (hence my interest in this thread). I note the date of the thread so wont post any specific details as yet just in case it's expired!
Manchester Rambler - I'm pretty sure there are still Cauldfields in Carralackey today (I've often passed through there when travelling between Kilmovee and Charlestown).
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I am the granddaughter of Mary Griffin, daughter of Mary Mannion Griffin and Thomas Griffin. Of Kilmovee, Cloonamna. Brigit Griffin is my Great-Aunt. If anyone is still on this site, please be in touch and let's share info. I have been looking for a very long time. Thanks v much. k
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Welcome to RootsChat :)
.......I'm pretty sure there are still Cauldfields in Carralackey today......
Funeral Times 2019
https://www.funeraltimes.com/michael-joecaulfield804559074
KG
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Funeral Times 2019
https://www.funeraltimes.com/michael-joecaulfield804559074
I've just looked up my name.
I'm bookmarking this thread in case any of my relatives turn up.
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I am the granddaughter of Mary Griffin, daughter of Mary Mannion Griffin and Thomas Griffin. Of Kilmovee, Cloonamna. Brigit Griffin is my Great-Aunt. If anyone is still on this site, please be in touch and let's share info. I have been looking for a very long time. Thanks v much. k
Hello Sharon
My Great Grandparents were JAMES HIGGINS born about 1831 and BRIDGET GRIFFIN born about 1833. In 1901 they were living in Uggool, Kilmovee. James Higgins died on 31 August 1907 and Bridget Griffin Higgins died in January 1919.
I have done the Ancestry DNA test and have been linked to the GRIFFIN's of Cloonamna.
I also have a connection to a MANNION who married a HIGGINS.
I will look up all my matches and I would love to hear from you as my James Higgins and Bridget Griffin had their first child Mary in 1858 in Cloonamna.
Regards
Pat Berry (nee Higgins)
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Welcome to RootsChat :)
.......I'm pretty sure there are still Cauldfields in Carralackey today......
Funeral Times 2019
https://www.funeraltimes.com/michael-joecaulfield804559074
Hello
Thank you for contacting me regarding these CAULFIELD's
This name came up as a Godparent for my Grandfather JAMES HIGGINS baptised 11 June 1871 in Kilmovee RC Church.
He was the son of JAMES HIGGINS and BRIDGET GRIFFIN who were living in Uggool, Kilmovee in 1901.
Bridget Griffin's father was Patrick Griffin and her mother was Catherine but not sure of her surname but maybe Duffy or even Caulfield. I cannot find find a marriage for Patrick Griffin but I think he was living in Uggool. There was a Philip Griffin in Cloonamna and I think Patrick and Philip may have been brothers.
I will look up these Caulfield's of Carralackey.
Regards
Pat Berry (nee Higgins)
KG
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Cloonnamna townland in Kilmovee CP.
https://www.townlands.ie/mayo/costello/kilmovee/kilmovee/cloonnamna/
KG
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Pat38, I am having trouble figuring out if this is how to respond to your post #13 above. Fingers crossed. First times on this site. I have just gathered a bunch of additional information, some v conflicting dates and will be back here to you asap with specific dates and names. I've also JUST found the site Pre-1960 Kilmovee on facebook. I did a DNA test on Ancestry, is that how you checked your links to the other Griffins? Do you have any idea if there are many Griffins or Higgins etc left in Kilmovee. Thanks so much! and more as soon as possible! Sharon
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Pat38, I am having trouble figuring out if this is how to respond to your post #13 above. Fingers crossed. First times on this site. I have just gathered a bunch of additional information, some v conflicting dates and will be back here to you asap with specific dates and names. I've also JUST found the site Pre-1960 Kilmovee on facebook. I did a DNA test on Ancestry, is that how you checked your links to the other Griffins? Do you have any idea if there are many Griffins or Higgins etc left in Kilmovee. Thanks so much! and more as soon as possible! Sharon
Hello Sharon
Just found your post. Looks like you are Sharon O'Connell. I am Pat Berry. I just logged on here to see if any more info on the Higgins, Griffin etc had been posted. For some reason I don't get notified of posts on here.
Pat
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Hi.
I am researching my great grandmother.
The reason I will post it here is because of the matching surname and place of birth area.
I understand any information is limited as it is a popular name.
Mary Delia Higgins
Born - About 1886,
Cloonfinnaun, County Mayo
Father : Thomas Higgins (Farmer) *
((Marriage Certificate Evidence))
Residence :
1911 • 26 Manor House, Humphrey Lane, Urmston, Lancashire, England
Marital Status: Single;
Relation to Head: Servant
Marriage
January 1912 • Barton upon Irwell, Lancashire, England
Church of the English Martyrs, 5 Roseneath Rd, Urmston, Manchester M41 5AX
Married : George Townley (1883–1928)
Birth of Daughter :
Mary Ruth Townley (1913–2002)
6 Sep 1913 • Stockport, Cheshire, England
Birth of Son : Eric Townley (1923–1989)
28 Jan 1923 • Stockport, Cheshire, England
Death : 30 Nov 1928 • Stockport, Cheshire, England
My mission is to find any other information on this town she was born in as I can't find much.
But mainly, now i have mentioned her on this forum maybe somebody in the future has a similar link.
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Hi.
I am researching my great grandmother.
The reason I will post it here is because of the matching surname and place of birth area.
I understand any information is limited as it is a popular name.
Mary Delia Higgins
Born - About 1886,
Cloonfinnaun, County Mayo
Father : Thomas Higgins (Farmer) *
((Marriage Certificate Evidence))
Have you found her birth registration?
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Not as of yet. So far,
• 1911 Census record (Ancestry)
• Marriage Certificate (Purchased)
• Death Certificate
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Mary Delia Higgins
Born - About 1886,
Cloonfinnaun, County Mayo
Cloonfinnaun is a townland in the civil parish of Kilconduff in Co Mayo.
Here it is in townlands.ie
https://www.townlands.ie/mayo/gallen/kilconduff/swineford/cloonfinnaun/
KG
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The registration district is Swinford.
Use this website for your searches. All the BMD records currently on-line are free.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/news/154-update-to-the-civil-records-3
Solve the Captcha by ticking the box, and use initials such as ‘b’, ‘b’ to sign in. Ensure that you tick the ‘application to search’ box.
KG
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Thank you very much for this information.
It will keep me busy for some time.
I will keep you informed of what I learn and any details I find.
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Mary Delia Higgins
Born - About 1886,
Cloonfinnaun, County Mayo
Cloonfinnaun is a townland in the civil parish of Kilconduff in Co Mayo.
Here it is in townlands.ie
https://www.townlands.ie/mayo/gallen/kilconduff/swineford/cloonfinnaun/
KG
So not in Kilmovee civil parish.
Also information from https://www.swilson.info/index.php
Poor Law Union: Swineford
Post town: Swineford
R.C. parish: Swineford, variant names Kilconduff; Meelick; Kilconduff & Meelick
S. Wilson's website has options to search for placenames, towns, townlands, civil parishes, R.C. parishes, C. of I. parishes, registration districts + more.
Registers for Swineford R.C. parish viewable on Catholic Parish Registers at National Library of Ireland website https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0133
Has baptism registers 1875-1901 + incomplete runs of earlier registers; marriage registers 1808-1915.
I looked for a birth registration for Mary Higgins on Irish Genealogy.ie. The only one I found in Swineford registration district with Thomas as father was 1885, residence Culmore. Mother was Honor, maiden surname Callaghan. No births registered for Delia Higgins around 1886. Delia may have been a variant of another name. I didn't look for Higgins births registered with no first name in Swineford. https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/
Was Mary Delia Higgins connected to any Higgins mentioned in replies 9 & 13 by Pat38 or reply 8 byflatley2bsure? If not, I suggest that you start a new thread for your Mary Higgins on the Mayo board to attract replies from people with Higgins ancestors. Higgins isn't in the title of this thread.