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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cheshire => Topic started by: betton39 on Saturday 07 March 09 22:56 GMT (UK)
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i have just started looking into the Partingtons from this area and wondered if anyone might be able to help me
I am looking for the family belonging to an Edward Partington
any help would be really appreciated
:) :) :)
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is this him
1851
HO107/2171/178/17
edward partington age 13. b. christleton,cheshire. occ. plough boy
address;hatton heath,cheshire
he is living and working in the household of joseph salmon occ. farmer of 280 acres
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1841
HO107/90/4/folio missing/7.
edward partington age 45. occ. agr.lab.
mary partington age 35
hannah partington age 11
harriot partington age 6.
edward partington age 3.
eliza partington age 1.
living at;brown heath,christleton,cheshire
all born in county.
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edward partington aged 3 in 1841
here is the birth index
if you order the cert you would be able to find the mothers maiden name
name; edward partington
y.o.r.1837
qtr. july/aug/sept.
dist. great boughton
vol. 19
page. 25
great boughton is the reg dist for christleton
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do you want me to try and follow any or all of the family from 1841 entry through the censuses and marriages,deaths etc.
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Hi Wozzle
Any help that you could give me would be excellent ;D
i would love anything about all brances, the further back and foreward the better!
- i have literally just found out two days ago about their existance.
My connection to this name is through Edward's Daughter Ann who i have just found out married a Edward Price at St Mary's church Pulford in 1844 . After marriage, on the census her place of birth was given as Christleton c. 1820.
So you now know as much as i Do!
- Many Thanks
:) :) :)
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so the 1841 census i posted edwards daughter ann is not there probably working away somewhere.
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1851
HO107/2171/421/10.
edward partington age 57. b. aldersey,cheshire. occ. agr.lab. head
mary age 49. b. whetnall,cheshire. wife.
hannah age 21. b. christleton. daughter.
eliza age 10. b. ditto. daughter.
elizabeth age 7. b. ditto. daughter.
emma hughes age 16. b. chester. lodger.
living at;brown heath,christleton,cheshire.
so 2 children on 1841 not on 1851 edward(working away from home in 1851) and harriet will see if i can find her
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here she is
1851
HO107/2171/188/36.
harriet partington age 16. b. christleton. occ. house servant.
she is in the household of william wilkinson occ. cordwainer
address; waverton,cheshire.
reg.dist. great boughton.
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cannot at this moment in time see any record after 1851 for the father edward or the mother mary
will continue on with the children and come back later to look for the parents
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1861
RG9/2628/45/17.
edward partington age 23. b. christleton. occ. farm labourer. head.
hannah age 24, b, eddisboney? cheshire. wife.
living at; kelshall,cheshire.
reg. dist. great boughton.
here is the marriage index
name. edward partington
y.o.r. 1857
qtr. oct/nov/dec.
dist. great boughton
vol. 8a
page 468
on the same page; hannah wright.
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not sure about this one but could not find harriet partington c1835 on the 1861
there is a marriage in 1858 in great boughton between an harriet partington and the husband is either thomas shard edward jones henry shaw
on the 1861 there is a harriett shone working as a servant in liverpool born in christleton 1838 down as married though her husband is not there
looking at the original image it looks like it could be harriet shaw
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could not find hannah partington in 1861
possible reason
marr index
name; hannah partington
y.o.r. 1851
qtr. oct/nov/dec.
dist. great boughton
vol. 19
page. 48.
according to cheshire BMD she married joseph capper at st marys chester
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here is the daughter eliza c1841
here she is in 1861
you will notice she is in the same household as her sister harriett was in 1851
1861
RG9/2624/161/38.
eliza partington age 21. b. christleton. occ. house servant.(unm)
living in the household of william wilkinson occ. farmer and shoemaker
address; farm house,waverton,cheshire.
reg.dist. great boughton
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cannot find elizabeth partington c1844 on the 1861 census
possible reason
death index
name elizabeth partington
y.o.r.1857
qtr. jan/feb/mar.
dist. great boughton
vol. 8a
page. 249.
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will follow edward born c1838 all the way through rather than jumping about
you already have him in 1841,1851,1861 and his marriage
here he is in 1871
RG10/3720/9/12
edward partington age 33, b, christleton. occ. labourer. head
hannah age 34. b. eddisbury. wife.
living at; kelsall,cheshire.
reg.dist. chester
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1881
RG11/3553/67/15.
hannah partington age 44. b. eddisbury. head(widower)
living at ;cottage,kelsall,cheshire.
possible death index(though query about est birth date?)
name; edward partington
y.o.r. 1876
qtr. apr/may/jun
dist. chester.
vol. 8a
page 267
est.birth year 1848?
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here is eliza she got married in 1868 at st oswald ,chester to thomas jeffs. On 1871 census
transcribed as eliza jefford but the original image it is jeffs
1871
RG10/3739/149/7.
thomas jeffs age 29. b. barrow. occ. police officer in cheshire constabulary. head,
eliza age 29. b. christleton. wife.
william edwin age 1. b. neston,cheshire. son.
living at;liverpool road, great neston,cheshire
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lots of if's and buts on this topic
i was hoping that one of the children would be with their parents after 1851 but no such luck
and i still cannot find anything further on the parents
i do have a couple of the christenings of the children
name eliza partington
birth 1st april 1840
christened; 17th may 1840
name elizabeth partington
birth; 23rd august 1843
christened; 3rd september 1843
also it looks as if there was an earlier birth of a elizabeth(she must have died before 1841)
name; elizabeth partington
christened; 28th october 1832,
all events took place in christleton,cheshire
parents in all cases are edward/mary
all are ext.rec. IGI
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Wow Wozzle - what an excellent start! -
that's good work ;D
My ancestor was Ann Partington, she was born christleton 1820/1 christleton
i believe she had a younger sister Sarah . born the year after ???
so they musthave had alot of children! :) happy bunnies so to speak
i cant believe how quick you work
Thanks for everything this is brilliant!
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A Lady by the name of Mrs Walker phoned me today, she is the parish clerk of St Mary's of Pulford
She kindly gave me the details of my Ann Wedding, Reason Being - i applied to the register office for a copy of the certificate, however, they are still using the same book as in 1844 - how sweet is that :D
29th april 1844 - st Mary's pulford
Edward Price - f/a occ: Servant of Poulton father: Paul Price occ: Lab
Ann Partington - f/a occ: Servant of Poulton father: Edward Partington occ; Lab
Witnessed by: Elizabeth Eato. (correct spelling) & John Roberts
there was a Ann aged 16 in 1841 in Boughton as a servant, with another servant Sarah Partington aged 15 ???
i Can't find Edward before his marriage on the 1841 census - according to another gem on roots chat Edward Price was born in 1822 in Rossett (which i believe is just over the border) :-[
i haven't managed to find any of the census for Paul (apart from maybe one in 1841) and most of his children are "AWOL"! - including Edward
i know who they are from roots-chatter James (1824) John (1828) Thomas (1831) paul (1834) and Henry (1836)
x.
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betton
have you discounted this one from 1851 could be the same one who is born 1796 and living in pulford in 1841(although he is not with family in 1841)
HO107/2172/627/12.
paul price age 54. b. picton,cheshire. occ. farm labourer. head.
mary age 56. b. gresford,denbighshire. wife.
mary age 7. b. ditto. daughter.
mary challinor ager 60. b. hope,flintshire.(widow).pauper.
living at; pulford,cheshire
p,s, this family minus the child are still in pulford in 1861 in the ecclesiastical parish of pulford saint marys.
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Could this Mary Challinor - be his mother in law??
It must be some elderly relative somewhere mmm...
x
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it would nt be his mother in law unless she was 6 when she had mary
could be his sister in law though
you would need to find a marriage of a mary challinor and paul price
and i cannot see one anywhere?
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Lol!
Your'e right - i need more sleep!
Possibly sister in law!
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slight possibility this is mary challinor in 1841. mistranscribed as challeaw
1841
HO107/90/31/5/5.
mary challener aged 50. pauper
living at ;village,pulford,cheshire.
born out of county
no real clues there though?
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just thought if it was his sister in law that would make 2 mary challinors
1/ mary his wife
2/ mary the pauper
highly unlikely it is the sister in law
could be some other rele?
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Wozzle
Although i am now completely obsessed whith tracking an and Sarah Partington Down. Your great info - has sent me galloping in another direction as well
i wondered if i could milk your expertise on another Daring venture ;D
it might give me one complete "turbo boost"(i'll explain later)
According to a lady called Susan (i Think it's a one off contact) ,
My joseph capper - that married Hannah Partington was a widower, when they married
She sent me a rater abreviated record from cheshire parish records database (source to me not known)
Joseph Capper, Widower, occ labourer Residence: HABG ???
Age: Full (signed:x)
Hannah Partington - spinster, residence HABG ???
Age: Full (signed: s?)
Witnessed by Hannah Roberts and Joseph Darlington
i don't know if this marriage is ours however - because it states josephs father's name was thomas and hannahs father was Richard
although i have never come across a richard partington yet :'(
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to save me looking back through the posts what year was this marriage.?
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could not find hannah partington in 1861
possible reason
marr index
name; hannah partington
y.o.r. 1851
qtr. oct/nov/dec.
dist. great boughton
vol. 19
page. 48.
according to cheshire BMD she married joseph capper at st marys chester
Hope this helps :)
thanks x
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o.k then if that hannahs father is richard there is a possible match in 1841 in tattenhall
there is an hannah partington born 1828 living with a richard aged 50 and ann aged 50
so this is possibly the hannah who married joseph capper
if i can find joseph capper in 1861 and his wife hannah is born tattenhall
i think i have found this hannah in 1851 and her birthplace is tattenhall.
will have a look and see if i can find joseph in 1861 later on tonight.
obviously if it is her then your hannah has gone missing along with the other 2 girls eliza and rachel.
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that did'nt take long transcribed as hannah copper born 1828 tattenhall there with joseph in the 1861 census so not yours
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well atleast that's solved that one ;)
Thanks
Wozzle
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here is hannah
1861
RG9/2615/9/12.
john brassington age 32. b. barthomley,cheshire. occ. labourer. head
hannah age 31. b. christleton. wife
sarah age 9. b. ditto. daughter.
william age 7. b. weston,cheshire. son.
martha age 2. b. ditto. daughter.
living at;smith green cottages,barthomley,cheshire.
reg,dist. nantwich.
here is the marriage
name. hannah partington
y.o.r. 1852
qtr. oct/nov/dec
dist. nantwich
vol. 8a
page. 433
on the same page ; john brassington
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1871
RG10/3708/5/4.
john brassington age 42. b. barthomley. occ. agr.lab. head(widowed)
sarah age 19. b. ditto. occ. housekeeper. daughter.
martha age 12. b. ditto. daughter.
ellen age 9. b. ditto. daughter
elizabeth age 6. b. ditto. daughter.
living at ;smith green cottages,barthomley,cheshire.
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death index
name; hannah brassington
y.o.r. 1871
qtr. jan/feb/mar.
dist. nantwich
vol. 8a
page. 221
age at death 40.
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here is eliza she got married in 1868 at st oswald ,chester to thomas jeffs. On 1871 census
transcribed as eliza jefford but the original image it is jeffs
1871
RG10/3739/149/7.
thomas jeffs age 29. b. barrow. occ. police officer in cheshire constabulary. head,
eliza age 29. b. christleton. wife.
william edwin age 1. b. neston,cheshire. son.
living at;liverpool road, great neston,cheshire
should have looked back at earlier posts we have already found eliza so just rachael to go
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here is eliza in 1901
RG13/3402/144/25
thomas jeffs age 60. b. tarven?. occ. general labourer. head
eliza age 60. b. christleton. wife.
ernest age 20. b. egremont,cheshire. occ. general labourer. son.
edward age 15. b. ditto. occ. blacksmiths apprentice.son.
living at;47,park view avenue,liscard st.mary,cheshire
reg.dist. birkenhead.
bit of a come down from police officer to general labourer?
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1891
RG12/2896/17/27
thomas jeffs age 50. b. wallasey. occ. labourer local branch?. head
eliza age 50. b. christleton. wife.
thomas age 14. b. wallasey. occ. post office clerk. son.
christian.f. age 14. b. ditto. occ. clerk. son
ernest age 10. b. ditto. son.
edward age 4. b. ditto. son
living at; 11,darlington street,liskard,egremont,cheshire
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1881
RG11/3591/39/1
thomas jeffs age 40. b. barrow. occ. general labourer. head.
eliza age 40. b. cheshire. wife.
thomas age 4. b. egremont. son.
frederick.c. age 4. b. ditto. son.
ernest age (looks like)1mnth. b. ditto. son
living at 6,greenfield cottages,liskard,egremont,cheshire.
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i know i have already posted this but to keep it in order here it is again
1871
RG10/3739/149/7
thomas jeffs age 29. b. barrow. occ. police officer in cheshire constabulary. head
eliza age 29. b. christleton. wife.
william edwin age 1. b. neston. son
living at liverpool road,great neston,cheshire
reg.dist.wirral
so where is edwin in 1881 and what happened to thomas's occupation between 1871 and 1881?
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here is what happened to edwin
death index
name william edwin jeffs
y.o.r. 1880
qtr. jan/feb/mar.
dist. birkenhead
vol. 8a
page. 354
age at death 10.
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eliza jeffs aged 69 is on the 1911 census along with thomas jeffs aged 69 living in birkenhead dist.
the two sons with them in 1901 ernest and edward are not there.
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brilliant! - your bloods worth bottling!!
any idea how i could get any further back with Edward Partington senior?
:-*
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looked on family search pilot site for edward
at the moment the only thing i can see is elizabeth partington the daughter of edward
christening
date 3rd sepptember 1843 at christleton
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sorry cannot seem to find anything on edward before 1841
as i said before if you order the birth cert of edward age 3 in 1841 you would find out the mothers maiden name maybe you could then find edward and marys marriage through her maiden name
it looks like hannah was the first born about 1830 so the marriage probably 1825-1830
i have had a look for it on the IGI but i cannot find it?
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o.k then if that hannahs father is richard there is a possible match in 1841 in tattenhall
there is an hannah partington born 1828 living with a richard aged 50 and ann aged 50
so this is possibly the hannah who married joseph capper
if i can find joseph capper in 1861 and his wife hannah is born tattenhall
i think i have found this hannah in 1851 and her birthplace is tattenhall.
will have a look and see if i can find joseph in 1861 later on tonight.
obviously if it is her then your hannah has gone missing along with the other 2 girls eliza and rachel.
where did i get rachel from i think that was from another post i was looking up???
time for a cuppa i think
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i have managed to find out quite a bit about the Brassington and Jeffs connection to the family ;D
But still nothing about ann nor sarah Partington - who were Edward and Mary's older Children - who were away from home "in service " during the 1841 census. :-[
I know they were born in Christleton same as the others.
Ann married Edward Price in Pulford in 1844
but i can't find sarah
Can anyone find any Parish records or any records atall for these two girls ???
Thanks
Betton
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this is the only one i can find that matches in anyway
name; anne partington
chr; 11th aug 1823
place; waverton,cheshire
parents; edward/mary partington
ext.rec. IGI.
this dould be the ann you found in 1841 as a servant her age was down as 18
whether she is yours or not is another matter?
there is a christening of a sarah partington in waverton in 1827 which could be the sarah you found in 1841 aged 15 but her parents are john/esther
i can find no sarah with parents edward/mary.
so i am afraid this is not a great help in your search.
plus i have no idea how far waverton is from christleton?
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Good Call Wozzle!
I think you have found my Ann
i suppose just because Ann Partington & Sarah Partington are servants in the same household doesn't necessarily mean they were sisters - could have been cousins.
i guess i need to find that sarah to have the answer
Did you see any more Partingtons in Waverton ???
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on the 1841 census there are 5 partington entries living in waverton
the sarah christening i gave you is not among them so makes it probable that the 1841 entry where you have ann and sarah together means probably that that sarah is the same one that was christened in waverton
the 5 entries in waverton in 1841 are for john b. 1816,james b. 1811, john b.1826,samuel b. 1801,
william b. 1826
believe this is the christenings of 3 these 5(though not definite)
john
chr; 16th july 1815
place; waverton
parents; william/mary.
john(possibly sarahs brother has same parents names)
chr; 19th sept 1824
place; waverton
parents; john/esther.
samuel and william i cannot find a christening for.
although i did find a christening for a william in the right timeframe it was in tattenhall and he is in tattenhall in 1841 with his parents thomas/martha.
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The best thing i can do now Wozzle,
is to phone Cheshire and get that Birth Certificate for Edward Junior
they have found the certificate for me. - i work nights - so it looks like tomorrow - i shall be stopping up to make that call :)
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do let us know what happens if you don't mind.
i work nights as well 9-5
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Ok Wozzle -
see what you think of this - i'm not a happy Bunny! Lol!
i Recieved Edward Juniors birth certificate back this morning - and this is exactly what it said...
Edward Partington born September 1837 in Ploughlane christleton
Father - Edward Partington occ: Labourer
And Mother Mary Partington formerly Shawn ??? the "h" is rather elongated - but i don't think its Spawn!! - the informant to the birth was a neighbour - looks like Diann Lloyd.
does this help - another piece of jigsaw ???
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betton
why are you not a happy bunny
the birth cert tells you his parents were edward and mary everything seems to tie in unless i missed something???
i have had a look for any birth,christening,marriage record for a mary shawn/spawn cannot find anything
had a look on the IGI and the pilot search site for cheshire still no luck
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that's why sentiments were a little dissapointed when i got the birth certificate - you have i suppose numerous ways of spelling this surname
Shawn (which it looks more and more like when i stare at it for long enough ;D)
Then theres Showne, shone shaun.....
At least not another Jones - i have a collection of those! Lol!
wonder where this surname comes from ???
on the 1851 census it states that Edward originates from Aldersley c. 1796
and Mary Hails from Whetnall c.1802- 06 (taking in age varients) also possibly Waverton, ifAnn Partington was actually born in Waverton (1823) - theres another possibility i suppose
i did a quick Hatched, Matched & Dispatched sweep of cheshire BMD and Shawn doesn't ring a bell atall! - but shone does....
:) thanks wozzle
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do not no what use this is but possible sighting of the witness
1841
HO107/90/4/5/9.
john lloyd age 25. occ. agr.lab.
diana lloyd age 25
ann lloyd age 5mnths
living at;plough lane,christleton,cheshire.
john born out of county the other 2 born in county.
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i thought a good idea maybe to apply for another certificate (see if the surname is written any differently ??? - and start another quiery tread for the new surname - i wish i knew where edward and mary were married - it might make things easier ???
what do you think?
not so sure where to go from here
Betton
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might be worth sending for another cert
i don,t know if i have already posted this but here is elizas birth index
eliza partington
y.o.r. 1840
qtr. apr/may/jun
dist; great boughton
vol. 19
page 33
or alternatively you could get in touch with your nearest familysearch centre
and visit there
with the info below you would be able to see what the parish record says
birth
name; eliza partington
birth date; 1st april 1840
christening date; 17th may 1840
place; christleton
batch number for birth; C041530
batch number for christening; C041530
type ; film(christening only)
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this is the only one i can find that matches in anyway
name; anne partington
chr; 11th aug 1823
place; waverton,cheshire
parents; edward/mary partington
ext.rec. IGI.
this dould be the ann you found in 1841 as a servant her age was down as 18
whether she is yours or not is another matter?
there is a christening of a sarah partington in waverton in 1827 which could be the sarah you found in 1841 aged 15 but her parents are john/esther
i can find no sarah with parents edward/mary.
so i am afraid this is not a great help in your search.
plus i have no idea how far waverton is from christleton?
Hi Wozzle
I've been reading your posts on the Partingtons with interest, because I am researching the Cappers from Holt Denbighshire and I notice that one of them married a Capper in Chester. I know the area really well - lived here all my life and Waverton and Christleton are villages next to each other on the A41 just outside Chester. You have also found a reference to a Tavern (a place you queried), this will be Tarvin, yet another village very close to Christleton and Waverton.
There was a family of Partingtons in Farndon during this period (some of them are still there) and Farndon is only 8 miles from the above villages too. Maria Partington was the village midwife in the early 1900s.
Keep up the research
best wishes
Catmad