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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Kirkcudbrightshire => Topic started by: ALEPOHORI on Saturday 14 March 09 09:02 GMT (UK)
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looking for siblings, and marriage/death entry for parents of william douglas shennan born 1860 lauriston scotland to john shennan and mary yann, he was married in 1880 in australia to jessie struthers, there is no death record of his parents in australia. would it be possible to lookup scotish census for this family, thank you
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I see you are now following through father John from this post www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,366011.0.html :)
IGI have William's birth earlier:
WILLIAM DOUGLAS SHENNAN Birth: 20 SEP 1855 Borgue, Kirkcudbright
Parents:JOHN SHENNAN and MARY MCKEAN
As you can see, mother Mary's surname is slightly different also. There are no births showing after William's in 1855 and nothing before on the Old Parish Registers but this looks like the family in 1861:
John Shennan 38, farm servant, b. Twynholm, Kirkcudbright
Mary Shennan 40, b. Twynholm, Kirkcudbright
David Shennan 10, b. Borgue, Kirkcudbright
Robert Shennan 8, b. Borgue, Kirkcudbright
William Shennan 6 , b. Borgue, Kirkcudbright
Address: Old Blackcraig, Borgue, Kirkcudbright
William's birth is an 1855 entry, the first year of official registration in Scotland. For one year only the entries ran over two pages of the register. For births it should also include a lot of details on the parents: ages, where they were born, date and place of marriage, how many children they'd had (boys/girls, alive/deceased). Worth your while looking at that image on line at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Monica :)
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This may be them in 1851:
John Shenan 28, farm lab, b. Borgue, Kirkcudbright
Mary Shenan 30, b. Twynholm, Kirkcudbt
John Shenan 6, b. Twynholm, Kirkcudbt
Sarah Shenan 4, Kells, Kirkcudbt
Basil Shenan 2, b. Borgue, Kirkcudbright
Address: Brardfield, Borgue, Kirkcudbright
Monica
ADDED: Likely marriage/banns entry on the OPRs:
JOHN SHANNON and MARY KEAN Marriage: 21 JUN 1844 in Twynholm, Kirkcudbright
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There is a death showing on Scotlands People in Tongland, Kirkcudbright in 1868 for a Mary McKean*/Shennan (b. 1821) which is likely to be William's mother and would be worthwhile you checking out. If the correct entry, it will include husband's details and whether he was still alive/deceased and her parents' names, if known to the informant.
Monica
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thank you so very much for your time and assistance and information found, will follow up.
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William Douglas Shennan is my great grandfather. I have some info that might be of interest.
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thank you, would be pleased to have more information.
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My ggg grandfather is John Shennan the brother of William Douglas Shennan. The furthest I have been able to to get is to my 5th Great Grandparents John Shennan & Helen Allan. We have the Shennan family bible in our branch that i will be researching when i next visit my cousin's I'm not quite sure how many generations it goes back as its a couple of years since I last seen it and have only recently started my tree. If anyone has any information they think may be useful then please feel free to contact me. I will also try and help others where I can. I'm pretty new to all this. Thanks
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to holly, just read your post, good luck with your research, my connection is my daughter in law through her grandmother to william douglas shennan, have traced back to john shennan and helen allan also, any information from family bible would be interesting.
thank you
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Mary McKeand (McKean) was the sister of my gg grandmother, Agnes McKeand. Their parents were David McKeand(d) and Sarah McAdam, as you no doubt already know.
The children of John Shennan (1823-1896) and Mary McKean(d) (1820-1868) are:
John Shennan (1845-1913)
Agnes Shennan (1848- )
Sarah Shennan (1847-1912)
Basil Shennan 1849-1860)
David Shennan (1851 - )
William Douglas Shennan (1855-1944)
Mary Helen Shennan (1858-1860)
Basil Douglas Shennan (1861-1933)
James Wilson Shennan (1864-1940)
Cheers,
Rodeo
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William Douglas Shennan was my GGrandfather.
His daughter Jessie my Grandmother would tell me stories about the Scottish family history and she said that his mother was a Mary Yann/Yaan but I cannot seem to find her.
Mary Yann is written on his death notification so it is a bit of a puzzle to me, as there seems to be quite a few entries with a different surname for Mary.
Wondering if anyone has any clues to the surname Yann?
I believe it had some connection with the Netherlands.
Thank you.
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Hi Florinda
William Douglas Shennan was born on 20 September 1855 in Borgue, Kirkcudbright, to John Shennan and Mary McKean(d), according to his birth registration. Do you have that document?
The name of William's mother cited on his 1944 death certificate (notably Mary Yann) is incorrect, as is his place of birth, which is recorded as Lauriston, Scotland. The informant was his widow and second wife, Margaret R Shennan (née Griffiths), who may not have known (and clearly did not provide) the correct information regarding his parentage and place of birth.
Cheers,
Rodeo
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These two marriage certificates will record origins of bride and groom. What do you see for birth place and parents' names?
NSW BDM marriage
1684/1880 SHENNAN William D marr. STRUTHERS Jessie @ Balmain
17283/1936 SHENNAN William marr. GRIFFITHS Margaret Ruby @ Sydney
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Hi Wivenhoe
The certificate of marriage between William Douglas Shennan and Jessie Struthers in Balmain, NSW, on 13 October 1880 does not cite the parents or place of birth of either party.
However, William Douglas Shennan's petition for divorce filed in Melbourne, Victoria, on 15 January 1936 is extremely comprehensive, citing the place of birth of William as Kirkcudbright, Scotland, and that of Jessie Struthers as Blantyre, Scotland.
Cheers,
Rodeo
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Hi Rodeo,
I remember Jessie Shennan who is my Grandmother (William Douglas Shennan's daughter) telling me stories about the the family and connection to the Yann family so its a mystery for me that it goes cold. Ruby his second wife may not have known, but the doctor Redvers Shute who certified the certificate was a longtime family doctor to several family members. I wish I had taken notes as child.
Thanks for your time.
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The place name Lauriston is mentioned in the Name Books of 11 different parishes in 6 different counties, and Laurieston in 15 parishes in 6 counties (not the same 6 though there is overlap). So being born at Lauri(e)ston is not necessarily incorrect.
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Hi Forfarian,
I am learning so much about Scotland wish I could go there but not likely for a while I would think with the current pandemic.
Thank you for the information.