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Title: Completed with thanks.Boy or Girl at 1894 Wedding?
Post by: Barbara348 on Monday 16 March 09 09:41 GMT (UK)
Hi, really need some help with the following.

I have a family group wedding photograph taken in 1894, showing my Gt Grandparents at the wedding of their eldest daughter - as is always the case,there are no names on reverse of photo.

Whilst I can identify most of the group, there is a mystery surrounding a small figure, dressed in white, clutching the hand of my Gt Grandmother.

The child is dressed all  white, Bonnet,Dress, Stocking &  Shoes.

The youngest child my Gt Grandparents had was my Grandad who would have been about 8 at the time of the marriage.

There's no way of telling if the figure  is a boy or girl , I've always assumed it was a girl and never even considered the possibility of it being my Grandad because of the mode of dress.

Is it likely that a small boy would have been dressed as detailed, in 1894?

I'm afraid I'm not clever enough to know how to include the photo but I'd welcome any ideas on the subject.

Thanks

Barbara.
Title: Re: Boy or Girl at 1894 Wedding?
Post by: Eyesee on Monday 16 March 09 09:53 GMT (UK)
Barbara

Have seen photos of boys in dresses. Not sure they would have been eight, but definitely up to about 4-5. This would have been in the 1880s.

Ian C
Title: Re: Boy or Girl at 1894 Wedding?
Post by: Gadget on Monday 16 March 09 10:11 GMT (UK)
Hi  :)

My father wore a dress until he was about 5 and he was born in 1905 so it would certainly be possible in 1894. I've not heard/seen of any boys dressed in this way at the age of 8 though  :-\

Have you been able to scan the image?  If so, and you're having problems putting it up, I can PM you an e-mail to send it too and I'll put it up here so that we can make a better guess.


Regards


Gadget
Title: Re: Boy or Girl at 1894 Wedding?
Post by: avm228 on Monday 16 March 09 10:28 GMT (UK)
I really can't think that an 8 yr old boy would have been dressed in this way.

I have 1894 photo portaits of my family and, while the littlest boys are in lace-collared dresses with long hair in ringlets, the 6 yr old is in a very smart sailor suit and long boots.

Will see if I can attach a pic of Laurie, aged 6, in 1894 (sadly he died of diphtheria a few weeks later :()

Anna
Title: Re: Boy or Girl at 1894 Wedding?
Post by: Gadget on Monday 16 March 09 10:53 GMT (UK)
Hi again

This is Barbara's wedding photo.

I'm not sure - the face/hair cut that we can see does look a wee bit like a little boy but.......... :-\



Gadget
Title: Re: Boy or Girl at 1894 Wedding?
Post by: johngirl on Monday 16 March 09 11:00 GMT (UK)
Great photo :)

I would say its a girl who is about three years of age.
I couldn`t see a little boy wearing a frilly hat like that. Not even way back then. ;D

  Johngirl
Title: Re: Boy or Girl at 1894 Wedding?
Post by: Gadget on Monday 16 March 09 11:01 GMT (UK)
I've enlarged :

Title: Re: Boy or Girl at 1894 Wedding?
Post by: Helen D on Monday 16 March 09 11:14 GMT (UK)
Hi Barbara

I agree with Johngirl - that (girl) child is much younger than 8. Maybe a little one who slipped in and away between cencuses?

Helen
Title: Re: Boy or Girl at 1894 Wedding?
Post by: avm228 on Monday 16 March 09 11:19 GMT (UK)
I'm always useless at guessing adults' ages in old photos but to me g-grandma looks kind of old to have a child that young (2 or 3). Could he/she (I'm another who's tending towards she) have been a granddaughter or other relative?
Title: Re: Boy or Girl at 1894 Wedding?
Post by: Greensleeves on Monday 16 March 09 12:55 GMT (UK)
I think the child is a girl, and that she is probably the bridesmaid.  I believe they had bridesmaids at weddings at that time, and this would be the reason for the fabulous ensemble and the posy.

Regards,
Greensleeves
Title: Re: Boy or Girl at 1894 Wedding?
Post by: Just Kia on Monday 16 March 09 18:37 GMT (UK)
I think she's a girl.
The headwear of the child is similar to that of the adult bridesmaid (maid of honour?) stood next to the bride and she also seems to be carrying a little posey - which I wouldn't have thought would be given to a little boy.
Title: Re: Boy or Girl at 1894 Wedding?
Post by: Barbara348 on Monday 16 March 09 19:06 GMT (UK)
Hello to everyone who has replied to my post.

Special thanks to Gadget for placing my photo because I still havn't got the hang of inserting photo's myself.

The wedding took place in Jan 1894 and my Grandad was then 7 yrs old, to be 8 in May of that year.

My Gt Grandma was 44 yrs old when my Grandad was born in 1886 and to the best of my knowledge, he  was her last child.

I thought it unlikely that the child in the photo was him but it came to me as a possibility and just wouldn't go away.

Thanks to you all for your ideas and I think the overall conclusion is that the child is a girl.

I think I'll have to accept that I'll never be able to identify the little person.

However, I do love the photo, it's the only one I have of my Gt Grandparents and is much treasured.

So thanks again all

Barbara.
Title: Re: Boy or Girl at 1894 Wedding?
Post by: IgorStrav on Monday 16 March 09 20:19 GMT (UK)
Barbara, it's a lovely photo, I'm sure you are very pleased to have it.

Just a thought, if you would like any restoration work done on it, have a look at the Photo Restoration Board and see the work of the fantastic restorers there - I'm sure someone would have a go at yours, if that's something you'd like.

 :)
Title: Re: Boy or Girl at 1894 Wedding?
Post by: Barbara348 on Monday 16 March 09 23:17 GMT (UK)
Hi Igorstrav,

I've looked at the Photo Restoration Board and I agree there are some fantastic restorers out there.

If any of them would care to have a go at enhancing the photo for me,I'd be very happy.

Would I have to move the photo from the current board to the Photo Restoration Board in order to do that?

Barbara.
Title: Re: Boy or Girl at 1894 Wedding?
Post by: Gadget on Monday 16 March 09 23:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Barbara

If you'd like, you start a thread on the Photo Board with a link to this thread so that we don't have to put the photo up twice  :)


Gadget