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Title: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Tuesday 17 March 09 18:44 GMT (UK)
I'm looking for information about a ship owner Charles A Jerrett.

The Lloyds Register has him as owner of a ship called the 'Canadian'. She was built in 1901 by H Oxner in Chester Basin Nova Scotia and was registered in Lunnenberg, Nova Scotia.

Please can anyone help?

Joan
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 17 March 09 19:03 GMT (UK)
Have you checked?-
1901 and 1911 census: www.automatedgenealogy.com
N.S. Vital records: https://www.novascotiagenealogy.com/
N.S. Genweb for Lunenburg Co.: www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~canns/lunenburg/index.html
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: Harrisons on Tuesday 17 March 09 19:17 GMT (UK)
Hello,

He appears on 1891 census with family:

George C - b. 1835 Exeter - Father
Miriam - b. 1837 - newfoundland
Charles A - b. 1866 new foundland
Marion - b. 1875 new foundland

George is a fish merchant

Then if you look in Nova Scotia his father must have been important:

http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/pm_v2.php?id=exhibit_home&fl=0&lg=English&ex=00000365

There are also pictures of charles and his children:

http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/pm_v2.php?id=record_detail&fl=0&lg=English&ex=00000365&rd=85235

http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/pm_v2.php?id=record_detail&lg=English&ex=365&rd=85245&hs=0

this should be a start.

cheers

Nik
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: Harrisons on Tuesday 17 March 09 19:18 GMT (UK)
Sorry the census result has them living in Toxteth, Liverpool at the time.  I cannot find them on any other census so assume they were in canada.  They are lots of entries on canadian passenger lists for charles coming and going from the uk also.
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Wednesday 18 March 09 19:47 GMT (UK)
Hi aghadowey

Thanks for those websites.   Can't find Charles A Jerrett on them but, from the information that Nikw has given me, it would seem that he was born in Newfoundland not Nova Scotia.   My mistake.   Do you have any websites for there, by any chance?

Joan
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 18 March 09 20:03 GMT (UK)
Just google [place name] genweb to find the area you are looking for. Here's the Newfoundland one: http://nl.canadagenweb.org/
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Wednesday 18 March 09 20:04 GMT (UK)
Hi Nik

Thanks for all that information. 

Charles A Jerrett's father George certainly sounds quite an interesting person. 

I have found that Charles A Jerrett was on a passenger ship from St Johns to New York in 1922 with a son, and his wife was still in Brigus, Newfoundland.   Can't find any more about him owning the 'Canadian'.

I tried the 1901 and 1911 Canadian censuses for Nova Scotia and can't find any Jerretts there.   I maybe need to access the ones for Newfoundland.

It was interesting that you mentioned them living in Toxteth, Liverpool in the 1891 (?) census.   I am trying to tie Charles A Jerrett in with Samuel Strong Jerrett who lived in Toxteth and was also a ship owner.   His father Robert Jerrett was a Master Mariner and travelled all over the world, including North America.

Joan
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Wednesday 18 March 09 20:07 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that aghadowey.   What a fascinating website.   Will have a closer look when I have more time.

Joan
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: Harrisons on Wednesday 18 March 09 22:05 GMT (UK)
Hello,

Tried to have a look into the link between Samuel and Charles.

Robert parents: Willam b. 1771 Crediton parish devon (morchard bishop)?
George parents: James b. 1806 crediton parish devon (morchard bishop)?
Robert b. 1821 Crediton parish devon.  (morchard bishop)?

1841 census Robert is living with William who is in his 70's  james could be his brother??

There are 91 Jerretts appearing on 1841 census in devon but only a small %% have Morchard Bishop.

Both William and James are employed as coopers? could be a family trade or is it just the area. 

Anyway its something to start on.

good luck


Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Thursday 19 March 09 14:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Nik

Fantastic ;D

Actually this is not the right Robert, but Morchard Bishop is only about five miles from where my Jerretts come from in Sandford, Devon (both are in the Creditin area).   So they could well be related somehow.

My Robert, the Master Mariner, was b 1815 in Sandford, parents James b1780 and Mary Cousins.   Robert married Sarah Strong b1813 Sandford and Samuel Strong Jerrett, the ship owner, was their youngest son.   Another son, Robert, was also in a sailor in the merchant service according to the 1861 census.

Thankyou for all that information, it gives me something to go on :)

Joan 
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: aljerrett on Wednesday 15 April 09 00:45 BST (UK)
  Charles Arthur Jerrett  born August 1866 in Brigus Newfoundland (now part of Canada),  Died 07 April 1935 in Brigus. Was married to Anna Antle and they had six children.  His Father was George Churchill Jerrett born Jan 1836 in Exeter, Devonshire, England. Died 1 Nov 1904 Slough, England.  His Mother was Charlotte Prowse born Jan 1836 Stokeinteign, Devonshire. They where married  24 April 1860 in St. Andrews Church in Stokeinteign.  Charle's grandchildren now live in Brigus, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: J.J. on Wednesday 15 April 09 04:34 BST (UK)
aljerrett! Welcome to rootschat..

death notice in a Newfoundland newspaper
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cannf/dailynews_1935.htm

They aren't sure if this is he, I suppose...but maybe a poster can deny or confirm if it is his image
http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/pm_v2.php?id=record_detail&lg=English&ex=365&rd=85245&hs=0

photos from the family album
http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/pm_v2.php?id=search_thumbnail_gallery&fl=0&lg=English&ex=365&pos=1&st=jerrett&Submit=Search

Listed as General merchant in 1894
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cannf/cbbrig_mcalpines94_brigus.htm

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=gcbodie&recno=21101


Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: J.J. on Wednesday 15 April 09 16:22 BST (UK)
The only in H. Oxner I can see in Chester Basin Nova Scotia is this Howard, who is also a merchant. But can't see any ship building associated with him, either...
://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/View.jsp?id=68575&highlight=44
I found a  Jasper Oxner who built the " Freedom" Schooner - 1844 Londonderry

Geo. Churchill Jerrett's christening has mother as Marianne
JAMES Jerret married Mary Ann Churchill Mar.31 1834, Saint Mary Major, Exeter

If there is a Sanford connection there's these to look into from IGI extracted files...:
There's a christening....
James Jerrett -Aug 1, 1803, Sandford, Devon to a James & a Mary
also a Thomas & 2 Roberts...one of whom might be your Robert

James Jarrett & Mary Cousins marry Dec. 26, 1802 Sanford
 
 
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: J.J. on Wednesday 15 April 09 17:04 BST (UK)
Joan...This person says he has the Jerrets back to the 1600's so if that's more than you have ...
http://genforum.genealogy.com/jerrett/messages/148.html

also there is this spelling John Baugh JARRETT of Wales, but also a ship-owner, in case that name ever turns up.
http://www.rhiw.com/census_llyn/nefyn_01.htm
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: J.J. on Wednesday 15 April 09 17:42 BST (UK)
Did the site say built in 1901 or acquired in 1901...looking into the actual ship...find that there were three ships called "Canadian" that were owned by the allan line steamship co.  (each replacing another, lost earlier in the 1800's...I can't find when the 3rd ship stopped running...
but do notice ships "Canadian" trips from 1879 to 1891 seem mostly marked as Allan ships, but the later trips Liverpool to Boston from 1907 to 1911 are not marked at all for ownership...might be a clue to follow...J.J.
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Wednesday 15 April 09 18:26 BST (UK)
Hi J.J.

Wow, I'm overwhelmed with all that information ;D   I'll have to look into it .

My information about the ship the 'Canadian' came from the Lloyds Register for 1906-7.   Gross tonnage 137, built 1901 by H Oxner, Chester Basin, NS.    Owned by C A Jerrett.   97.8 long/25.9 wide/10.04 deep (feet presumably).   Port of registry Lunnenberg, NS - British.   Don't know if that will help at all.

It's good to have the name of the shipping line, as we may be able to find out something more in the Maritime Museum in Liverpool when we get the chance to go there again.

My Jerrett tree also goes back to about 1610 and is very much Sandford based, but that is very close to Exeter.   So it's just a matter of linking everything together.   I think I have come across the person who you mention, but will check.

Thankyou for the birth of George Churchill Jerrett and the marriage of his parents.   James Jerrett and Mary Cousins are definitely mine.

Haven't had time yet to go into all the websites, but they sound very interesting.

I do appreciate all the trouble you have gone to.   Thankyou :)

Joan
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Wednesday 15 April 09 18:41 BST (UK)
Hi aljerrett

Welcome to rootschat.

Thankyou very much for the information on Charles Arthur Jerrett, his parents and decendants.   It's good to know that there is still family living in the area.   We are hoping that we can make another visit to NS one day and now perhaps extend it to Newfoundland to search for the family.

Regards

Joan

 
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: J.J. on Wednesday 15 April 09 19:54 BST (UK)
Sorry, Joan...need to clarify that the ships prior to turn of the century were marked allan line...not the later, so your Canadian may or may not have been the unmarked one...
Here is the url I thought I had posted in the last reply...my paste feature has been glitching me lately
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/passenger/001045-100.01-e.php?PHPSESSID=ur0uhltsf7vsvmgn68ciaqj1l3

you may want to see if any of them are marked with Gross tonnage 137 as it sometimes is marked on the beginning pages...If it was a merchant ship, privately owned, it wouldn't belong to a fleet line....and would only carry few passengers if any...that's why I wondered if that was perhaps the ship....
....J.J.
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Thursday 16 April 09 20:09 BST (UK)
Hi J.J.

Thanks for that.

According to that website, there was a ship 'Canadian' travelling to Boston, MA several times in the years 1905 to 1908 but will have to investigate further to find out if it's the one I want.   I also need to check some of the older Lloyds Registers to see if Charles A Jerrett appears in them. 

Another trip to Liverpool when I get the chance.

Joan
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: J.J. on Thursday 16 April 09 20:55 BST (UK)
Not that it helps your cause...but you'd mentioned him without his wife on a voyage South... Anna died young, age 35 /1904
http://ngb.chebucto.org/Newspaper-Obits/free-press-aug-1904.shtml

I have never seen so little information on a vessell...
This fellow captained the ship late 1908-1909..and they were still from Liverpool to Boston
http://www.w-f-t.co.uk/index.php?page=ind&pid=I30&GEDCOM=legacy.ged
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Friday 17 April 09 19:13 BST (UK)
Hi J.J.

Thanks for the websites.   That has clarified one thing, the 'Canadian' sailing between Boston and Liverpool in 1908/9 is not the one I am after.   The tonnage is given as 6000 + tons and was registered in Liverpool.   The one owned by Charles A Jerrett that was built in 1901 was 137 tons and registered in Lunnenberg, NS.   Fascinating website tho'.

Maybe he had another 'Canadian' to replace the one we found originally.   We'll have to check in Lloyds Register for 1908/9, when we get the chance,to see if there is a connection.

Joan
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: J.J. on Friday 17 April 09 20:06 BST (UK)
Oh, good for you to spot that...I only saw the sailing dates...where did you find that?
so I wonder if that is the same Canadian then, as the earlier ones shown on the list at the site I gave you...1905 plus...I looked through and they show no tonnage marked on any which is just maddening...but further in I saw that it becomes part of the Layland Line in 1911, and is now called "S.S. Canadian" , but still no tonnage marked...and also saw on another site that it was sunk in 1917 carrying war supplies-attacked by a U-boat with Captain H. H. Bullock at the helm...He was the only one who didn't survive...Seems that it was indeed a merchant vessel...but it may have been the same one you've found? who knows unless someone can find the marked tonnage!
Also, maybe your ship was built totally for transporting merchandise and has no kept records...
Hopefully there is something more in the Lloyds Register.


I know it has nothing to do with the thread, but this is for Captain Bullock
(http://www.members.shaw.ca/remember/1poppy.GIF)
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Tuesday 21 April 09 10:22 BST (UK)
Hi J.J.

Apologies for delay in anwering.


I have never seen so little information on a vessell...
This fellow captained the ship late 1908-1909..and they were still from Liverpool to Boston
http://www.w-f-t.co.uk/index.php?page=ind&pid=I30&GEDCOM=legacy.ged

I found the tonnage information on the above website.   Scroll down to 'Media - Pictures' and click on Certificate of dischage pages 8 & 9.   Column 2 gives: name of ship - Canadian, official no: 113425,S, port of registry - Liverpool and tonnage - 6009.

Interesting about the history after 1909.   Must have been terrifying crossing the Atlantic with all the U-boats around.   I know the merchant ships were mostly in escorted convoys, but that was no guarantee of safety.   Brave men.

Nice thought for Captain Bullock, J.J.

Joan

Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: bigbazza on Saturday 13 June 09 18:53 BST (UK)
Hi SamnJoan,
I registered with rootschat today because I saw your messages about linking Charles A. Jerrett with Samuel Strong Jerrett.
Charles' father George Churchill Jerrett and Samuel Strong Jerrett were 1st cousins, so I believe that makes Charles first cousin once removed from Samuel.
Robert Jerrett the Master Mariner was my great great grandfather and Samuel was my great Uncle.
I have been doing some extensive research of the Jerrett family over the past 2 years so if you would like more info I will be happy to oblige once I've got the hang of the rootschat system!
regards,
bigbazza.
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Monday 15 June 09 12:28 BST (UK)
Hi bigbazza

Welcome to rootschat :)

This is great news :)   I was sure there was a link between Charles A Jerrett and Samuel Strong Jerrett, but couldn't find it.   Who was George Churchill Jerrett's father?   I have GCJ as being born in Exeter, not Sandford like most of our Jerretts.   Also, do you know what the 'A' in Charles A Jerrett stands for?   Is it Arthur by any chance?

Robert Jerrett, the Master Mariner, was my husband's 2xg grandfather too and Samuel Strong Jerrett was his g grandfather.    I think that makes you something like 4th cousins.

There are so many questions.   I look forward to hearing from you.   

Best wishes :)

Joan
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: J.J. on Monday 15 June 09 15:37 BST (UK)
bigbazza ! Welcome to rootschat! After three postings you can use the private messaging system....
In the meantime, enjoy!

http://members.tripod.com/~Al_Beagan/brigus.htm
Information can be found in a publication in case you may not have seen this...

Will, Charles A. 1935 and other Jerrets
http://ngb.chebucto.org/Wills/nfwillsj.shtml
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: bigbazza on Tuesday 16 June 09 21:41 BST (UK)
Hi Joan,
Very pleased to have been of help and I can tell you who GCJ's father was.
As you know, James Jerrett b.1780 m. Mary Cousins in 1802. They had 5 sons.
James b.1803, John b.1805, Robert b & d. 1808, Thomas b.1809 and Robert (Master Mariner) b. 1815.
They were all born in Sandford and baptised at St. Swithuns Church.
James (the eldest son) went to live at Morchard Bishop (about 6 miles from Sandford) and he became a Master Cooper.
He married Mary Ann Churchill in 1834 and they had 2 children. George Churchill and William Henry Jerrett.
As you know they both emigrated to Newfoundland.
Mary Ann Churchill died in 1847 and James married secondly, Maria Hamlin.
They had 2 children, Keturah and James who both remained in England.

I'm afraid I don't know Charles A's middle name, however, from what you have told me, your husband and I are 4th cousins. I suspect that your husband is the grandson of Arthur and the son of Sam H. I hope so because I would like to ask you if you have any old photo's or portraits that have been handed down through the generations? Particularly if one exsists of Sarah Jerrett (nee Strong) or the Mariner himself I would love a copy!
Hope to hear from you soon,
Regards,
Baz.

 
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Tuesday 16 June 09 22:22 BST (UK)
Hi Baz

Great to hear from you and many thanks for clearing up that mystery.   I knew there was a link, but couldn't find it.

Looking back over this thread, I see that my question about the 'A' in Charles A's name was Arthur.   I'm not sure where the name originated, but it has been carried on in this line of Jerretts to this day.   You are right about my husband's father and grandfather.   I will have a look at the photos we have and also ask an ancient Aunt if she can help, but I don't hold out much hope I'm afraid.   Maybe there is a photo of Robert in one of the books in the Liverpool Maritime Museum.   I don't know when we will be able to get there next, but will bear the photos in mind.   I too would love to see some.

Do you happen to have a record of the marriage of Robert and Sarah Strong?   The only one I can find is 18th March 1846 in Paddington, London, which is after five of their children were born.   I think that Robert and Sarah's son Robert b 1843 was a sailor in the Merchant Service.   He appears on the 1861 Census.

All for now.   I look forward to hearing from you again.

Best wishes,

Joan
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: bigbazza on Wednesday 17 June 09 18:40 BST (UK)
Hi Joan
This is getting interesting, isn't it?
My theory about the name Arthur is that a lot of children were named after Queen Victoria's children and Prince Arthur was born in 1850. It could have started from there.
My fathers middle name was Arthur and it is possible he was named after SSJ's son. SSJ was my grandfathers uncle.
Is the ancient aunt you refer to named Myrtle by any chance? My quest for old photo's led me to contact Myrtle earlier this year but I'm afraid she and her sisters Beryl and Sally have got nothing further back than about 1920. I've had some interesting telephone conversations with all of them and my wife and I lunched with Sally (who doesn't live that far from us) about 6 weeks ago.
We met Beryl while we were on holiday in the South West last month and had lunch with her, Harry
and Emily. She was in great form! We have arranged to meet Myrtle later on this month.
I am hoping to visit the Liverpool Maritime Museum later this year so maybe a joint effort might un earth something.
Re: Robert and Sarahs marriage:
Their first 5 children were born out of wedlock including my great grandmother.
All 5 were baptised with the name Jerrett (not Strong) at St. Swithuns Church, Sandford.
We perused all the baptismal records on microfiche at the Devon Record Office and can only assume that Sarah lied about being married.
I also have a copy of the marriage certificate dated 18th March 1846 which took place in Paddington.
Robert became a Master Mariner shortly after the marriage and we think that this was to secure some future financial benefit to Sarah which she could only receive if she was married.
They made sure the marriage took place well away from Sandford though didn't they?
Re:Robert Jerrett Junior:
Robert was the 5th child to be baptised at St. Swithuns on 17th October 1844.
He became a merchant seaman and was working for his father on the merchant ship Sea Queen
at the time of his fathers death at Falmouth, Cornwall on 17th January 1873.
Sea Queen was owned by Goodyear & Co. and Robert senior had captained the ship since 1871.
Robert Junior married Emily Strong from Crediton in Liverpool in 1872. They had a son named Samuel Strong Jerrett the same year. Emily died in 1898 age 47.
By the way, Robert and Sarah were 3rd cousins.
I never found out where Robert senior was buried. Do you know by any chance?
Well thats all for the time being, speak to you again soon. (Now, how do these smiley faces work?)
Baz.

Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Wednesday 17 June 09 20:38 BST (UK)
Hi Baz

Thanks for all your information.

I had a feeling that Robert and Sarah weren't married for some time, even tho' she appears on various censuses as 'wife of'.   She was a schoolmistress, so I suppose she couldn't risk anyone knowing.   That also explains the Paddington marriage :o

I knew that Robert died in Falmouth and have tried trolling thru some of the church sites there without success, so far.   Sarah was living in Liverpool then, but I can find no record of Robert's burial up there.   Sarah was buried in the cemetery in Toxteth Park, Liverpool.   I have her grave number, but when we went to find it there had been a complete rearrangment and the map bore no resemblance to the one I had.   We were told that if a grave had been untended for 100 years or more it was reused, which would explain why so many modern graves are mixed up with the old ones.

You have solved another great mystery for me :)   The 1881 census has Samuel Strong as head of household, Sarah - mother and widow, and then Samuel Strong - nephew, aged 8 years.   I haven't been able to find him anywhere, so now I know :)

As we are going to be talking about several living people from now on, I am sending you a PM (personal message).

By the way, the smiley faces show up as various punctuation marks as you put them in, but you can check them if you look at the preview of your message.

PM to follow.

Joan
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Saturday 20 June 09 13:58 BST (UK)
Hi J J

Sorry not to have thanked you before now for those two great websites :-[   They were much appreciated.

Regards,   Joan
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: AJerrett on Thursday 30 July 09 02:31 BST (UK)
Hi everyone,
My great-great-grandfather was George Churchill Jerrett and I am interested in anything you could send me/tell me about the family.  Looking forward to meeting some more relatives!

Alison
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: J.J. on Thursday 30 July 09 17:05 BST (UK)
Welcome to rootschat Alison ...Not a rellie, but I'm sure you will meet many now that you've joined!
http://ngb.chebucto.org/Genealogy/finding-aids.shtml
were there 2 George C.? http://ngb.chebucto.org/L1871/71-brigus01.shtml
http://ngb.chebucto.org/H1864/64-brigus-pdg.shtml
a great grandson who still lives in Brigus
http://www.brigus.net/messages.htm

George Churchill Jerrett fonds
6 cm of textual records, 6 maps, 2 marine charts, 21 artifacts / 1914-1945
http://www.archivescanada.ca/english/search/ItemDisplay.asp?sessionKey=999999999_142&l=0&lvl=1&v=0&coll=1&itm=206574&rt=1&bill=1
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Thursday 30 July 09 19:02 BST (UK)
Hi Alison

Great to hear from you and welcome to rootschat from me too :)

My husband's 2xg grandfather Robert Jerrett b 1815 in Sandford, Devon (a Master Mariner) was the youngest brother of George Churchill Jerrett's father James.

George Churchill Jerrett was the son of James Jerrett b1803 in Sandford, Devon (a Master Cooper) and Mary Ann Churchill b1817 in Ottery St Mary, Devon.   They were married in Exeter, Devon 31.03.1834.   They had four children:   George Churchill Jerrett b1835 Exeter, Devon; Wilhelmina Jerrett christened 12.02.1837 Morchard Bishop, Devon, died 1837; Mary Ann Jerrett christened 11.06.1842 Morchard Bishop; and William Henry Jerrett christened 24.06.1844 Morchard Bishop.

George and William emigrated to Newfoundland, but I have no date for this so far.   Their mother Mary Ann Churchill died in 1847 and father James married Maria Hamlin b1812 and they had two Children:   Keturah Jerrett b1851 Morchard Bishop and James Jerrett b1855 Morchard Bishop (he was a Cooper like his father).

I believe George Churchill Jerrett married twice.   Once to possibly to a Charlotte and also to Mary H Nuttal b1833.   One of his children was Charles Arthur Jerrett b1866 in Brigus, Newfoundland, but I'm not sure who his mother was - perhaps you can help me there ???   He was a shipowner.   Charles Arthur Jerrett married Anna Antle, and possibly someone else too.   Anna died in 1904.   They had a son Ernest V Jerrett b1902 and he was an accountant.   There were other siblings.

I hope that this has been of some help to you and perhaps you can fill me in on some of the more recent Jerretts ???   I have Jerretts going back to around 1610 and also several branches of more recent Jerretts.

I look forward to hearing from you again.

Joan


Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Thursday 30 July 09 19:29 BST (UK)
Hi JJ

Great websites.   I particularly like the Brigus one with all the messages.   Lots of Jerretts :)

Joan
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: J.J. on Thursday 30 July 09 21:21 BST (UK)
Don't know if reliable, but this site says mother of Charles Arthur Jerrett is Charlotte PROWSE
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=carlprowse&id=I1284
More on her:  http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=carlprowse&id=I172

so this photo must have been taken just prior to her death, as he remarried to Miriam NUTALL in 1873
( Ohhh...check out all the ones of right spelling just on this list...)
http://ngb.chebucto.org/Stonepics/stonepics-hj.shtml

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cannf/nd_news_sun_1894janjune.htm
in 1894 Mr. Wm. Hy. JERRETT, to be a Surveyor of Lumber.

1887...The steamer Swallow, belonging to Mr. JERRETT of Brigus, returning from Labrador, put into port on Thursday, and left again yesterday.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cannf/nd_news_sun_1887juldec.htm
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Friday 31 July 09 18:56 BST (UK)
Hi JJ

Thanks again :)

George Churchill Jerrett's father was a cooper and it went back for generations, so quite likely.   Also, I suppose carpentry would be a natural progression.

Thankyou for Charlotte Prowse.   I had pencilled in the name Charlotte, but knew nothing else about her and I didn't even know if George Churchill Jerrett was married before or after going to Newfoundland.   So Charlotte was Charles A Jerrett's mother.

I had George's second wife as Mary H Nuttall, not Miriam, but could have been a misreading of something.

Joan
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: J.J. on Friday 31 July 09 19:23 BST (UK)
and don't forget that church was built under the supervision of George C. Jerret...1875-1877..so he was very versatile...he was called a "local builder" http://www.heritage.nf.ca/society/rhs/ab_listing/227.html ...and in the 1864/65 directory url I gave you. In this one, in 1871 William becomes the carpenter, and father now runs a store.
( which may account for him being a superviser on the church...guess he's getting on in years)
His and other tenders, as well as little snippets regarding the construction of that church:
http://ngb.chebucto.org/Articles/brigus-methodist.shtml
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: J.J. on Friday 31 July 09 19:52 BST (UK)
and back to vessels...the Clearance B. accident 1921
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cannf/dailynews_fatalities1921.htm
unnamed schooner 1919
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cannf/dailynews_talessea1919.htm

daughter Clara Prowse Jerrett's wedding
http://familytreegroup.tripod.com/guardian1932.htm
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: AJerrett on Monday 03 August 09 03:34 BST (UK)
Hi there,
Thanks so much for all that info.  The Prowse family information that JJ referenced is very reliable - the compiler is a cousin of mine.  Charlotte Prowse is correct.  The Prowse name was carried on in my line as a given name - William Henry Prowse Jerrett was my great grandfather, his son (my grandfather) was Harold Prowse Jerrett, and his son (my father) is has Prowse in his name as well (much to his chagrin).  I'll ask my father about "Miriam."  It was someone's name - she went by "Min"  I remember my father telling me.  So, more to come soon.

I would love to get all the info on the Jerretts back to 1610.  That would be fabulous.  I can definitely get some info on more recent Jerretts.  I'm not sure if I'm permitted to use names and birthdates, etc., on this forum for persons still living.  I know my father doesn't care - I have his permission.  And I certainly don't care about my information being posted.  Please advise what is acceptable and what is not.  Be back soon with more answers (and probably questions, too!).      ~Alison
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: AJerrett on Monday 03 August 09 03:42 BST (UK)
I forgot to say that George Churchill was a fine carpenter and craftsman.  He did later open a large general store which William Henry also ran.  My father tells many a story about the store.  After William died, the will was in probate for so long that the children of William "gutted" the place and my great-grandmother got a paltry amount considering how wealthy they were.  I believe they also had a funeral home, but don't take that as gospel just yet.  I'll ask my father for clarification. 

William Henry was married to Frances (Fanny) Louisa Spracklin.  The Spracklins moved to the Harbour Grace area in the 1600's sometime.  They bought about half of what was John Guy's original colony in Newfoundland.  I think her father's name was Michael.  Not a Jerrett, but an interesting history on the Spracklin side.  More info to come!
 
Alison
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: J.J. on Monday 03 August 09 03:49 BST (UK)
Initials only for the forenames of the living, and if anyone wants the full information, you may now send full information on the living by private message...just click on the scroll to the left of the person's information...When using personal message, tho...the reply button is  the send button for some reason...but it takes a bit to get used to that...all the best, J.J.
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: AJerrett on Monday 03 August 09 04:00 BST (UK)
Thanks JJ.  I modified my previous posts.  Check this out for Jerretts:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=carlprowse&recno=804

That should be helpful.  It also indicates there are 2 George Churchill Jerretts, to answer JJ's question.  The original and his grandson, the son of Charles Arthur.

Alison
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Monday 03 August 09 17:41 BST (UK)
Hi JJ

Again, thankyou for some great websites.

Yes, I did have your original information about George Churchill Jerrett and the new church, thankyou, but your new piece is interesting with the actual tenders.

Joan :)



Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Monday 03 August 09 19:09 BST (UK)
Hi Alison

Thanks for all that information.   I have sent you a PM (personal message).

Joan
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: DJerrett on Thursday 20 May 10 01:37 BST (UK)
I have just stumbled across this thread and think that it is amazing how quickly you have all come together to make all those connections. Very interesting stuff. My Father, Grandfather etc are Jerretts from Brigus and even though I am quite familiar with that end of the tree being able to trace the name back to England is very exciting.

Do any of you have information on the name earlier than the 1800s?
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Thursday 20 May 10 19:24 BST (UK)
Hi DJerrett

Welcome to Rootschat :)

Great to hear from you.   I have Jerretts going back to circa 1630, originating in a village in Devon, England, called Sandford.   The eldest brother of my husband's 2xg grandfather was James Jerrett who was first married to Mary Ann Churchill.   Their two sons George Churchill Jerrett and William Henry Jerrett emigrated to Brigus.   My guess is that you are descended from one of them!

As a matter of interest, were you ever a chief flying instructor for a flying club in Nova Scotia?

Very much looking forward to hearing from you :)

Joan
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: J.J. on Thursday 20 May 10 20:48 BST (UK)
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I have Jerretts going back to circa 1630
   :D show off!  ;D
hehe, just jealous... and what luck that you'd run into two descendants already!

Brilliant stumble, I'd say DJerrett...Joan can take you well back and you can fill in any holes. Please let us know if anything has proven to be bogus on this thread...altho I believe we did quite well....
Big welcome to rootschat...have fun! J.J.
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: DJerrett on Thursday 20 May 10 22:30 BST (UK)
Ahh I thought that you might have been the Sam and Joan that I met back then. I often thought it was such a shame that I didn't get you two out flying that day. I did however pass along a letter from you to my Great Uncles in brigus who I thought more knowledgeable then I was. Have they responded? My g grandfather was Ernest and his father was George.as far as I know.

If you need anything at all from that end I'd be happy to forward you anything I have.
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: DJerrett on Thursday 20 May 10 23:25 BST (UK)
Hello JJ

It was very lucky of me to find this thread! I do feel a little bad about coming in so late and having little to offer, but hats off to yourself, samnjoan, and everyone for putting this all together.

David

Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Friday 21 May 10 18:32 BST (UK)
Hi JJ

Good to hear from you again :)

I wouldn't have got this far without people like you ;D

This has been the most fantastic thread.   It goes cold for quite a while and then it comes back to life with fantastic information.   So far it has found one third cousin and two third cousins once removed for my husband ;D

Joan
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Friday 21 May 10 18:55 BST (UK)
Hi DJerrett

Great News ;D    We were sorry we couldn't fly that day too, but there's no controlling the weather and we did meet up with you ;D

No, I heard nothing from your Great Uncles in Brigus, but not to worry perhaps you can fill me in a bit.

Was your 2xg Grandfather George Churchill Jerrett b1835 in Morchard Bishop, Devon, who was married 24.04.1860 in Exeter to Charlotte Prowse ???   And was your Grandfather Ernest Victor Jerrett b28.04.1901 in Brigus, married to Ruth Michelin ???   

I'm just trying to place you in the family.

I'll send you a pm with some other information.

Joan
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: DJerrett on Friday 21 May 10 22:21 BST (UK)
Hello, :)

Yes your information is perfect.
CAJ is right. I cannot confirm his dob yet, but I can confirm EVJ and his wife Ruth. She was one of several over his life. EVJ is my Great Grandfather. I do know that the family did own ships, and if anyone remembers I will get you the names.

I sent you a PM as well

David

Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Saturday 22 May 10 15:15 BST (UK)
Hi David

Thanks for your PM, I will email you with some of the family history.

I'm beginning to get the picture as to where you fit in, thanks for that.

Joan
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Saturday 22 May 10 18:12 BST (UK)
Hi David

Have sent you a PM as am having no luck with your email address ::)

Joan
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: TJerrett on Tuesday 28 September 10 21:14 BST (UK)
hello,i think i may be  related to both of you. my great grand father is also ernest victor jerrett from brigus.
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Friday 01 October 10 15:09 BST (UK)
Hi T Jerrett

Welcome to rootschat :)

It sounds as tho' you are definitely related.   I think my husband's 2xg grandfather, Robert Jerrett, was the youngest brother of your 4xg grandfather, James Jerrett :D   I think you are also a second cousin of David Jerrett, who contacted me on this thread.

The Jerretts came from a small village in Devon, England called Sandford.   I have them back to c1610.   It was two of the son's of your 4xg grandfather who emigrated to Newfoundland c1860.   They were George Churchill Jerrett b1835 and William Henry Jerrett b 1844.

I know that the father of Ernest Victor Jerrett was Charles Arthur Jerrett, who was the son of George Churchill Jerrett, but I have very little information since then.   Can you tell me more?   

I would love to hear from you again.

Joan
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: TJerrett on Sunday 03 October 10 17:49 BST (UK)
are you living in england?
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Wednesday 06 October 10 14:43 BST (UK)
Hi T Jerrett

Yes, I live in the UK.   Where do you live?

Joan
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: kiddo on Wednesday 10 November 10 00:14 GMT (UK)
http://images.maritimehistoryofthegreatlakes.ca/64332/page/5?n=1&q=Jarrett&docid=MHGL.64332

Page 1 right hand column under Erie..Admiral Jarrett
on the Great Lakes

I found my great great grandfathers death on this site..didn't exist anywhere else...so maybe??

K.
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Thursday 11 November 10 16:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Kiddo

Many thanks for that.

No luck so far, but will investigate further.

Joan
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: kiddo on Thursday 11 November 10 22:59 GMT (UK)
Joan..I'll keep you in mind as I look through shipping etc. I believe I still have a look up for you in Hamilton..haven't forgotten..?Harries? Its in my book.

Good luck with Charles!
Kiddo
Title: Re: Information please about Ship Owner Charles A Jerrett.
Post by: SamnJoan on Friday 12 November 10 18:30 GMT (UK)
Thanks Kiddo.

I believe I still have a look up for you in Hamilton..haven't forgotten..?Harries? Its in my book.

Kiddo

Harries is sometimes misspelt Harris.

Joan

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