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Title: elizabeth mitten
Post by: emilyandrosiesmum on Wednesday 18 March 09 19:46 GMT (UK)
looking for info on Elizabeth Mitten of Whitstable born 1880.  Aged 11 she  was a "boarder" in the household of Rev Wallace, Clayhill, Surrey along with Lily May Mitten (sister?) who was a parlourmaid.  Elizabeth married my great great grandfather George Hatcher in 1901.  It was his second marriage, he was 56 and she was 21!  There is a rumour in my family that she was black, which seems unlikely as there probably wouldn't have been many black people in rural Kent at that time. 
Title: Re: elizabeth mitten
Post by: Barbara F on Wednesday 18 March 09 20:04 GMT (UK)
Hi

This looks like her birth registration

Births Sep 1879   Mitten  Elizabeth Ann     Blean  2a 797

In 1881 she is listed as Adoptive Daughter in the household of James and Annie FitzGerald in Eythorne.

I think you will need to get her birth certificate to find out more about her parentage.  Who did she name as her father on her marriage certificate?

Barbara
Title: Re: elizabeth mitten
Post by: Tati on Thursday 19 March 09 11:26 GMT (UK)
Hi both  :)

I agree you need the birth certificate. In the meantime, here's Lily with her parents in 1871:

1871
RG10/951 94 13
Hawkhurst, Kent

James Mitten, head, 19, Ag lab, b. Surrey Lambeth
Charlotte, wife, 25, b. Sussex Warbleton
Lily M, dau, 5 mo, b. Kent Hawkhurst

Hmmm. Interesting, that - Charlotte was a Fitzgerald

Marriage Jun 1870 Eastry 2a 1161
James Mitten - Charlotte Eliza Fitzgerald

Charlotte dies in Sep 1879, Blean district

Title: Re: elizabeth mitten
Post by: emilyandrosiesmum on Thursday 19 March 09 19:21 GMT (UK)
This is so great! I am a novice at all this and it is wonderful to get help from you all.  If anyone can help further i would so appreciate it.  Many thanks
Title: Re: elizabeth mitten
Post by: Tati on Thursday 19 March 09 19:41 GMT (UK)
Looks like Charlotte died in childbirth, eh?  :-\

So, this was 1881:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/05v1/
RG11/996 68 23

Tracing James back, I can confirm he was Charlotte's brother:

1871
RG10/999 71 10
Eastry, Kent
Sandwich Lane

Rebecca Fitzgerald, head, wid, 54, Laundress
Caroline, dau, unm, 21, Laundress
James, son, 16, Under Gardener
Harriett, dau, 13, scholar
Arthur, grandson, 1

All born Eastry

From there:

1851
HO107/1631 233 14
Eastry, Kent
Sandwich Rd

John Mills, head, wid, 73, Gardener, b. Maidstone
Rebecca Fitzgerald, dau, mar, 34, Housekeeper, b. Eastry
Charlotte Fitzgerald, granddau, 7, scholar, b. Surrey Lambeth*

Caroline Fitzgerald, granddau, 1, b. Eastry

*although she said Eastry in 1871, I'm pretty sure it's her. There doesn't seem to be a birth registered for her in Eastry, but there is one in Lambeth:
Charlotte Eliza Fitzgerald
Jun 1843 Lambeth 4 305 
Title: Re: elizabeth mitten
Post by: Tati on Thursday 19 March 09 19:49 GMT (UK)
In 1861, Rebecca is down as married but again, her husband isn't with her.

Now searching FreeBMD (http://www.freebmd.org.uk/) for a marriage between a Rebecca Mills to a Fitzgerald, I can see only one:

Mar 1843
W London 2 207
Rebecca Mills to Caesar Fitzgerald
(www.familysearch.org shows the marriage on 1st March 1843, Saint Bride Fleet Street, London)
Title: Re: elizabeth mitten
Post by: emilyandrosiesmum on Tuesday 24 March 09 20:04 GMT (UK)
Thanks to you i have the complete answer to my post!  I thought the name Caesar Fitzgerald was unusual enough to try googling it.  Sure enough the first link was to a BBC Wales article about a woman's search for her black ancestors, who turn out to be mine too (by marriage only of course)!  Caesar Fitzgerald was "a man of colour from Sierra Leone" and his wife was a Tuareg.  The author of the article has written a book and i have just received it from amazon.  There is a picture of Elizabeth Mitten.  I am about to start reading it.

Many thanks again
Title: Re: elizabeth mitten
Post by: Tati on Tuesday 24 March 09 20:08 GMT (UK)
Some people have all the luck  8) 8)
Title: Re: elizabeth mitten
Post by: casalguidi on Tuesday 24 March 09 21:10 GMT (UK)
Oh Wow - what fascinating stuff 8)

Casalguidi :)
Title: Re: elizabeth mitten
Post by: Barbara F on Tuesday 24 March 09 22:05 GMT (UK)
How exciting for you  :)

Barbara
Title: Re: elizabeth mitten
Post by: maxsol on Monday 27 April 09 17:18 BST (UK)
Hope you enjoy reading the book as much as we enjoyed researching and writing it.
We also have pics of Lily Mary Mitten, Herbert Mitten and James John Fitzgerald.
Title: Re: elizabeth mitten
Post by: Lisashrimp on Wednesday 21 February 18 21:06 GMT (UK)
Hi, this is all so interesting to read. My Great Great Grandfather was in fact Caesar Fitzgerald. I actually have dark skin which seemed to have jumped the generations. Funnily enough I also resemble the image of the child in the picture from the post from the lady who wrote the book. However my own children are both white.
My grandmothers name was Olive (also slightly dark skinned) who lived in Folkestone, Kent. I am only just reading up on this all. My aunt has the book mentioned which I am looking to read very soon. I am interested to see the line before my Grandmother. How far spread the roots go throughout Kent.