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Title: McGill/Somers
Post by: edenreaghbeg on Wednesday 25 March 09 17:02 GMT (UK)
I am researching my Family of McGill and Somers of Magilligan and Limavady
If anyone is related Id love to hear from you to exchange information
Gerald
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 25 March 09 17:42 GMT (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat. Perhaps if you posted names and dates and any townland names you do know and tell us exactly what you are looking for we might be able to find more information for you or suggest where to search next.
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: edenreaghbeg on Wednesday 25 March 09 17:58 GMT (UK)
Thanks Aghadowey,  the first reference to my family in Magilligan was in 1869 I dont have any location for them before that it, might be Ballycastle My G Grandfather William McGill from Aghanloo Married  Catherine McCorriston from Duncrun in St Aidans Rc Church in1869  by Fr McGurke my Grandfather James Married rebecca Somers whose Mother was Anne McIvor they are buried in the old St Canices Graveyard Limavady:)  Thanks
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: edenreaghbeg on Wednesday 25 March 09 18:02 GMT (UK)
My Grandfather James McGill was born in Mccausland's Estate in Dreenagh my Grandmother Rebecca somers was Born in Sir F Heygate's Estate in Ballerena  would there be any records held by these estates of workers etc and would it be possible to approach them to ask for any records
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 25 March 09 18:22 GMT (UK)
Had a quick look on LDS site (www.familysearch.org) and found the following which you might not have yet:
Elizabeth McGILL, born 17 June 1876 Co. Londonderry- parents William McGILL + Catherine McCorriston.

Estate records might be in private hands or PRONI- PRONI's e-catalogue allows you to search their holdings online now: www.proni.gov.uk
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: edenreaghbeg on Wednesday 25 March 09 18:28 GMT (UK)
Thanks   that is  my family  my G Grandparents and my grt aunt
Thank you again 
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: somersgirl on Wednesday 25 March 09 23:33 GMT (UK)
Hi, I am researching Somers/McIvor.   Anne McIvor was married to Daniel Somers on 08 Feb 1852 in Derry.  At least one of their children was born in Claggan, Ballarena.   Daniel's father was James Somers and he was married to Rebecca Bagley or Doran before 1832.    Does anyone have any information on Anne McIvor and family?  She would have been born about 1830?
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: kingskerswell on Thursday 26 March 09 08:23 GMT (UK)
Somersgirl,
                Welcome ro Rootschat. I had a look at the marriage you mentioned on Emerald ancestors and it states that Daniel Somers married Anne McIvor on 8 Feb 1858 in Bellarena RC Church (St.Aidans) in the Parish of Magilligan, District of Limavady. I think that this may also interest Gerald.

Regards
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: edenreaghbeg on Thursday 26 March 09 10:31 GMT (UK)
Hello Somersgirl  thanks for the new information  We are of the same line  My user name shows a photograph of my Grandmother Rebecca McGill nee Somers, Her Father was Daniel Somers, her Mother was Anne McIvor I was always told she was born in Sir John Heygates Estate in Ballerena where Daniel worked as A Shepherd I also have a picture of OLD Tom who lived in an old house in Ballyleighery.
The 1901 Census shows they were living in Ballycarton the head of the house was i believe her Aunt Ester McIvor
the remaining house,there were several families living there, is visible on the foot hills in an area called the Crags.
Best Regards
Gerald
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: edenreaghbeg on Thursday 26 March 09 10:36 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the information to date Aghadowey, it looks like I am getting links already
best regards
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: somersgirl on Thursday 26 March 09 10:50 GMT (UK)
Thanks Kingskerwell and I am glad to be here!  And since your date of 1858 for the marriage of Daniel Somers and Anne McIvor is clarified, Gerald,  it appears that my gggrandfather, John Somers, born in 1858, is their first child.  I will look further into the Emerald site.    Gerald, have you any insight into the generations that precede Daniel?  I am wondering what the Somers origins were?
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: edenreaghbeg on Thursday 26 March 09 11:02 GMT (UK)
Hello Somersgirl  I have just recently begun this quest to find more about my family I'm not sure of the origin of Somers. I visit Limavady and Magilligan regularly and I know that there are a lot of distant cousins still in the area
I am also in touch with McIvors whose family moved from Bellarena to Derry many years ago their late Father Joe McIvor was My Grandmother Rebecca's Cousin
I will check up again on what dates etc I have and can give you what info I have
you can also email me or instant message me 
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: edenreaghbeg on Thursday 26 March 09 11:04 GMT (UK)
Hello again Somersgirl do you see a family resemblance in the photo of Rebecca which appears beside my username?
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 26 March 09 11:21 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: somersgirl on Thursday 26 March 09 11:51 GMT (UK)
Yes, I see a bit of resemblance.   I will post John Somers (Junior)'s photo as my image and you can compare as well.   
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: Gortinanima on Thursday 26 March 09 12:14 GMT (UK)

There were 5 Summers households in Magilligan in 1831:

1831 census head of households in Magilligan parish:
John Summers Ballymultimer
Widow Summers Ballymultimer
William Summers Ballymultimer
Daniel Summers Drumnahay
James Summers Oughtymoyle
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: edenreaghbeg on Thursday 26 March 09 19:30 GMT (UK)
Many thanks  Gortinanima
 that was very useful information
Best regards
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: edenreaghbeg on Saturday 28 March 09 15:00 GMT (UK)
Thanks Gortinamina  i like that name by the way  Gortinanima "the garden of the soul."
near Drumceatt   my late cousin William worked as a gardener in Roe Park House for Miss Ritter  whose family ran the electricity in what is now the country park in Limavady
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: Gortinanima on Tuesday 07 April 09 22:48 BST (UK)

Your great grandfather William McGill married 1869
St Aidan's.

Have you a copy of the marriage certificate as this will
give the name of his father, your gg grandfather?
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: edenreaghbeg on Wednesday 08 April 09 10:16 BST (UK)
Thanks, I do have a copy of the marriage certificate obtained from the bmd in Limavay registrar's office
His Father was James a labourer from Tyrcorran which I believe is opposite St Aidan's RC Church
his Wife Catherine McCorriston's from Duncrun her Father was called Hugh also from Duncrun

 incidentally can the 1901 census and earlier be obtained from PRONI on microfiche ?
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 08 April 09 10:59 BST (UK)
1901 is first complete census for Ireland. It is available on microfilm (not microfiche) at PRONI and Ballymena Library, as well as from LDS Libraries (check to see whether in stock or needing to be ordered).
There are some fragments of 1831 census for Co. Londonderry that survive but the only list head of household, number of males and females and religion.
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: edenreaghbeg on Wednesday 08 April 09 11:20 BST (UK)
Thank you very much  Aghadowey
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: Gortinanima on Wednesday 08 April 09 11:42 BST (UK)


The 1831 census covers the whole of county
Derry. The census survived because the OS
department had made a copy in 1834 as they were
interested the religious make up of the county
at the time they were preparing the OS memoirs.
Therefore, it is a transcript of the original census
and a secondary source.

I would imagins that James McGill/Magill would
be listed in 1831 as well as Hugh McCorriston.
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: Gortinanima on Wednesday 08 April 09 17:06 BST (UK)


Hugh McCorriston was in Aughill, Magilligan 1831
but I can find no McGill/Magill in the parish in 1831.
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: edenreaghbeg on Friday 10 April 09 20:05 BST (UK)
I have been told that My Ggrandparents may be buried in Aghanloo old graveyard they lived in Granagh
I am not certain if they are  there  I know that the graveyard has Rcs  buried at the back of the graveyards
then mixed religions were common those days
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: edenreaghbeg on Friday 10 April 09 20:06 BST (UK)
My GtGrandparents being William and Catherine McGill
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: edenreaghbeg on Tuesday 14 April 09 17:54 BST (UK)
Daniel Somers Married Anne McIvor/McKeever
08 02 1858
they had at least 3 children 25 12 1858,  Anne born 1864  Rebecca  (my Grandmother) Born 1866 and possibly  a boy called Matthew
I was wondering if there were any other children of this marriage  Thanks 
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: edenreaghbeg on Sunday 19 April 09 21:11 BST (UK)
My Great Grandfather William Magill appears in the 1901 census aged 51 and his wife Catherine aged 49
 do they appear on the 1911 census ? there are lists for a few counties in this census but not yet co Derry
Thanks
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: somerand on Tuesday 15 March 11 00:31 GMT (UK)
 I have a picture of three people it says Granny Rebeca Mc Gill, Son, Danial & Daughter, Lavina  I used to have some details but cant find them,it was someone who was looking for relatives called  with my sister but she was'nt into this I have the picture,it was only a chance  meeting at a clinic  in Limavady the person at the clinic had the name of Mc Gill, that I found out our family names were the same. The picture I have is the same lady as your granny.My grandfather was Somers grandmother madian Mc Gill   hope ths will be of some help.Kind Regards
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: edenreaghbeg on Tuesday 15 March 11 14:05 GMT (UK)
Hi Somerand it is great to read your post
My Granny is the one in this picture Rebecca Teresa McGill nee Somers born  in 1866 Daughter of Daniel Somers and Anne McGill nee McIvor Married my Grandfather James McGill son of William McGill and Catherine McGill nee McCorriston. they are buried in Roemill Cemetry Limavady along with my Aunt Annie
I have been gathering a lot of info mostly sketchy over the past few years and I am hoping to collate it all and try to make a readable family tree I would love to meet up with you
Gerald McGill
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: cyclamen on Tuesday 15 March 11 14:27 GMT (UK)
I happened to be looking yesterday at the church records for Tamlahtarde Parish Church. PRONI reference MIC/1/86/1.  If you haven't already done so they are worth a look. They contain a considerable number of baptisms for children with the surname Somers and McCorriston.
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: edenreaghbeg on Tuesday 15 March 11 14:38 GMT (UK)
Many Thanks Cyclamen that is most kind of you to send this post
I am intending to visit Proni soon and will now have a head start to where I should  start looking
Best regards
 Gerald
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: Bill Debs on Sunday 08 July 18 14:22 BST (UK)
Hello,

I am an American of Irish/Sottish decent.  I belie my family "passed" through the area around Derry in the 1800s.  Here is a link to a photo and what history I have:  https://www.flickr.com/photos/cdrdwd/11124208975/

Please let me know if any dates and names match your history.

Kind regards,

Bill
Title: Re: McGill/Somers
Post by: julkane on Wednesday 01 May 19 07:28 BST (UK)
My second great grandparents were William O'Kane/Kane 1816-1886 and Ellen Collins 1814-1881 of Claggan, Magilligan. William also leased and farmed land in Drumhahay as well as Claggan. Ellen O'Kane was the sponsor at the baptisms of two children of James Somers and Margaret Doran of Drumnahay: Jane (baptized 4 Aug 1867, St. Aidan's in Magilligan), and William (baptized 16 Oct 1864, St. Aidan's). William O'Kane was a witness at the marriage of Ellen Somers of Drumnahay and William McConway (22 Jul 1850 in St. Aidan's). Also, their oldest son Richard O'Kane (brother of my great grandfather John) was a sponsor at the baptism of Ellen and William's son William (31 May 1868, St. Aidan's). Also, Daniel Somers was a sponsor at the baptism of William and Ellen's daughter Sarah O'Kane (27 Nov 1846). With all of these interconnections, I strongly suspect that our two families were related a generation back. Has anyone descended from the Somers of Drumnahay taken a DNA test yet?