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Research in Other Countries => Europe => Topic started by: eeyores4me on Tuesday 31 March 09 12:06 BST (UK)
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a rellie is trying to find out about somebody born in Sussov Austria around the end of the 1800s she thinks it does not exist now any ideas thanks
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Possibly the name has been changed, or the version he/she has is misspelt. In the late 1800s it would have been in the Austro-Hungarian Empire and that could relate to any of a number of modern-day countries.
If more is known about the person, you could try to take into account things like religion, what languages the person spoke/wrote, etc, to try and narrow down the locality.
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thanks very much for your reply will look into it more
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maybe wrong written in the past? ??? maybe ending - ic before like Sussic and Susic?
there are also similar familynames with some variants specially from the Balcan-states, which are former austrian-hungarian crownlands. i know variants like Susic,Sussic, Sussich, Sussits, Sussitsch, Schuschits, Suschitz, Susitz and so on. some of them are "germanized" and to find outside of slavic regions like also in present Austria. maybe the familyname came about the placename?
so my guess you have to search in Southeast-Europe, for first maybe in Croatia, Bosnia or so. ::)
http://www.weltfussball.de/spieler_profil/safet-susic/
http://www.transfermarkt.at/de/trainer/3871/ljubisa-susic/aufeinenblick.html
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hi and thanks Carinthiangirl you could be right does sound likely I am waiting to find out where she got that name from ???? thanks again
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intresting - just found this possibilities about:
http://www.ihff.at/
> Deutsche Seiten > Ortsverzeichnis > Weiter > wrote in at "Der gesuchte Ort"
the placename Sussic and got this list:
LfdNr. Früherer Ortsname Heutiger Ortsname Zuständige Pfarre(n) Kronland
25 Albrechtsried Albrechtice u Susice Albrechtice Böhmen
22395 Unterschuschitz Dolenje Susice Toplice Krain
19284 Oberschuschitz Gorenje Susice Toplice Krain
18979 Neudirnbach Nova Susica Smihel Dolane Krain
22423 Untersuschitz Spodnja Susica Bizeljsko Steiermark
20543 Schuschitz Susica Krka Krain
12436 Oschitz Susice Pavlovice Böhmen
12437 Schüttenhofen Susice Susice Böhmen
12438 Suschitz Susice Postupice Böhmen
12439 Suschitz Susice Micov Böhmen
64250 Suschitz Susice Jalubi Mähren
64251 Suschitz Susice Pavlovice u Prerova Mähren
64252 Suschitz Susice Moravska Trebova Mähren
19309 Obersuschitz Zgornja Susica Bizeljsko Steiermark
Früherer Ortsname = former placename
Heutiger Ortsname = todays placename
Zuständige Pfarre(n) = competent parish (-office)
Kronland = crownland
Böhmen = Bohemia now Czech.Rep.
Krain = Carniola now Slovenia
Steiermark = Styria in todays Austria but possible there standing for Untersteiermark means "Lower-Styria" = Stajerska now Slovenia
Mähren = Moravia now czech.Rep.
which familyname had this ancestor from "Sussif" ;D
so maybe makes easier to find.....
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sorry I've been ages replying but have been trying to get hold of her
it seems she meant Sussov any ideas welcome thanks
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From what I read at JewishGen the place name seems to fit a couple of possibilities in Eastern Europe.
But what is the name of the person we are looking for ?
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hello sorry had to take someone to the hairdressers
Katie Tanen her Grandmother and Bessie Parnes who is her great grandmother but just realised she did not give me her birth date ??? She said Bessie and Harry Parnes died in Austria
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A search of JewishGen for Sussov, Austria brings up Sichauf, which appears to be in south-east Austria.
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thanks for that must have a look at Jewishgen
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now, the word Sichauf make it easy for me ;D this is in the austrian Bundesland (state) Steiermark
(Styria) and district Feldbach. it belonges to St.Anna am Aigen.
"Zur Gemeinde Sankt Anna am Aigen gehören die Ortschaften Aigen, Jamm, Klapping, Plesch, Risola, Sichauf und Waltra."
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sankt_Anna_am_Aigen
you find it about www.google.com - maps
the parish-office has no e-mail-adress: http://www.dekanat.at/dekanat/feldbach/st.anna/index.php
but you can ask at the roman.cath.discese-archive in styrian capital Graz. they are very friendly there. think some padres doing work there :) e-mail-adress right above. they have the Matriken (old church-book-entries) microfilmed there. so if there are birth-dates known you can write them.
http://www.graz-seckau.at/dioezesanarchiv/
St.Anna am Aigen: http://www.st-anna.at/
http://www.ngw.nl/int/oos/s/s-anna.htm
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thank you all very much she is excited and looking further into those links will update when I can
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i´m not sure if Sichauf really means "Sussov", but an e-mail to the discese-archive with names and birth-dates will show if to find some about this ancestors. specially as this is more a "hamlet" and think not so many people lived there in old times.
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Hi and thanks I have given her the advice I got on here and she is going to look into it
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just had the idea to look on this website, where you can search places in the old austrian-hungarian empire: www.ihff.at
i did it at the german version at "Ortsverzeichnisse > weiter > wrote Sussov and was surprised because found this ;) :
LfdNr. Früherer Ortsname Heutiger Ortsname Zuständige Pfarre(n) Kronland
64253 Susov Hnojnik Schlesien
former placename todays placename in CZ parish crownlandSilesia
now think this sounds good and the name is more then similar.
you may look for the english version of Wikipedia: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hnojn%C3%ADk
map of historical Silesia (outlined) and modern national boundaries :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Silesia_(Now).png
Schlesien -Silesia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silesia
the old austrian-hungarian empire:
http://translate.google.com/translate?client=tmpg&hl=de&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.deutsche-schutzgebiete.de%2Fkuk_oesterreich-ungarn.htm&langpair=de|en
take > Duchy of Silesia
do you know the background of this ancestors. was it german, polish, or czech?
to which of this groups belonges the familyname?
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wow that looks interesting she is more or less sure they came from Austria ???
I will ask her for more details thanks again
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it´s right, that this part of Susov in Silesia was austrian and they also then were austrian BUT this does not show the mother-tongue and so the possibilities for german, polish, czech and so on.
in the austrian-hungarian empire many people lived with many different languages. specially Silesia had some border-changes and so it would be interesting which background the family had and if their familyname was a german or a polish and so on.