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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: robertd19m on Sunday 05 April 09 20:42 BST (UK)
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Hi
Has anyone out there researched the Warnock Family who originated from East Kilbride? One of my anscestors was William Warnock born 7 Mar. 1757. He married an Ann Smith who was born in 1764. I know little about her. I am looking to confirm Williams anscestors, I think his parents were James Warnock who was married to a Mary Ritchie (Richie). I also believe James parents to be William Warnock who was married to Margaret Alexander but can anyone confirm this? Do you know where they were buried?
Would appeciate any help
Thanks
RobertD
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Hi Robert,
My 4x Great Grandmother was Agnes Warnock b24/9/1786 d 3/4/1861 daughter of William Warnock and Ann Smith.
I've come to the same conclusion that William's parents were James and Mary Ritchie (the Scotlands People record lists as Mary or Janet Ritchie.)
I'm not sure about James's parents, I believe it could be William Warnock and Margaret Alexander or possibly James Warnock and Margaret Renwick.
Regards
Robert
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Robert
Thanks for replying. William was my 4 x Great Grandfather. My line descends from James (dob 29 Jul. 1789) who was Agnes's younger brother. Do you know where William and his wife Ann Smith are buried or when they died? I know little about them although I would presume they were farmers (most Warnocks are/were).
Cheers
RobertD
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Interestingly small world!!!
My 5x great grandmother was Margaret Warnock who married John Christie. Her parents were James Warnock and Mary Ritchie!
Neat meeting you both!
Jessie
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I realise that Tigerlass posted this thread way back in 2009.
Part of my family ancestry originates in EK and 2 sisters of my gggg grandfather both married and became Mrs Warnock.
Although both husbands were born in EK , they were definitely not brothers.
One of the sisters married James Warnock who was definitely the son of William Warnock and Ann Smith.
from Tiger-Lass
"I've come to the same conclusion that William's parents were James and Mary Ritchie (the Scotlands People record lists as Mary or Janet Ritchie.)"
I have not researched James, his parents or his siblings but, although he had many children, including 1st son named William and 2nd daughter named Ann, none of his daughters were called Mary.
2 however, were named Janet.
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I have John Warnock (1845-1931), son of John Warnock and Janet Wallace, baptised in East Kilbride on 14 April 1845. He married my first cousin 3 times removed, Agnes Scott (1839/40-1872), in EK in 1865, and had four children. In 1873 he married again. His second wife was Isabella Nicol Elder, born 1840 in Drainie, daughter of Alexander Elder and Isabella Nicol. They had five children.
This is a century or so later than the people discussed above, but I'm interested in exchanging notes with any descendants of Agnes Scott and John Warnock.
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Hello Forfarian
I’m new to RootsChat but I’ve been researching the Scotts, Ritchies, Gibbs and Warnocks, amongst others for about 7 years. I’m sure you know that we’re all swimming around in a rather shallow pool when it comes to family info older than 1840.
Very briefly my line is -
Around 1725 William Warnock and Margaret Alexander married. They had a son James (b 1726) who married Mary Ritchie. James and Mary had a son William Warnock (b 1757) who married Ann Smith (b 1764). Their daughter Ann Warnock (1796-1873) married Robert Steven (1792-1876) and they produced Agnes Steven (1820-1910) who married Alexander Scott (1817-1891). Are you paying attention!?
Anyway many of those generations seem to have farmed in the Hamilton and East Kilbride area.
Back to Alexander and Agnes - their daughter Ann Warnock Scott (1851-1897) is my great grandmother. She married John Ritchie (1844-1926) and my maternal grandfather is Peter Grant Scott Ritchie (1881-1962).
I could go on but I’ll let you decide how much may be of interest to you.
Please drop me a line if you’d like to know more.
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Agnes Steven (1820-1910) who married Alexander Scott (1817-1891). Are you paying attention!?
Of course!
My direct line is Scotts from East Kilbride.
John Scott married Mary Lindsay in EK in 1764.
Their son William married Margaret Craig in EK in 1796.
Their son Alexander married Margaret Aitkenhead in EK in 1837.
Their son Alexander married Elizabeth Wilkie in Airdrie in 1874.
Their son Alexander was my grandfather.
I am not related to any Warnocks older than the family of John Warnock (1845-1931) and Agnes Scott (1839/40- 1872) so I have not studied the earlier generations of Warnocks.
I see from the 1881 census that your Alexander Scott was allegedly born in 'Mattuch', Banffshire. I assume that this is Mortlach, and I note that Alexander, son of Peter Scott and Margaret Grant, was baptised in Mortlach on 15 January 1817. In which case your Alexander is not related to my Scotts either.
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Hi everyone!
Has anyone else done DNA testing??? Would be interesting to see if any of us have matches with each other!
Jessie
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Jessiboo
I remain very sceptical about the accuracy and value of DNA testing but I’ve no problem sharing mine.
The Asian connection is a very long shot while the rest is very predictable.
Regards
Doug
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jessiboo - it's an even smaller world! John Christie and Margaret Warnock are my 4xG grandparents, through their daughter Margaret Christie, born 1781 who married a William Jackson. I have noted Margaret Warnock's parents as Robert Warnock and Elizabeth Pollock, but I have no dates for them, so am more than willing to be corrected.
I had been reading an article in an old magazine by the late philosopher Mary Warnock, and decided to follow up my longstanding curiosity as to whether there was any connection with my Warnocks,especially as my father also had a training in philosophy. Turns out Mary Warnock was born Mary Wilson, but her husband Geoffrey James Warnock (1923-1995) was another philosopher, whose father James Warnock, however, was a GP born in Northern Ireland. So there I am stuck for the time being, unless anyone has a distant cousin who moved to Northern Ireland.
My father's paternal ancestors were all farmers from East Kilbride, Glassford and neighbouring parishes - he was a Watt.
Ann
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I have Thomas Watt, hand loom weaver, and Anne Waddell, whose family were all born in Maxwellton, East Kilbride:
Susanna, born 18 February 1790, married Andrew Paterson, died before 1851
Anne, 23 August 1794, married John Pomphrey, died 6 December 1881
William, 27 March 1802
Thomas, 17 February 1804, married Janet Burns, died 14 October 1865.
Allan, 5 September 1806.
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This rings a vague bell, I know my great-grandfather William Watt and his father John Watt at one time gained some property in Maxwellton. The circumstances were unclear, but it seemed to involve one William Montgomery giving it to them in return for which they were to look after his wife after his death. My great grandfather was a boy of about 10 at the time, so it seemed that perhaps William Montgomery had married a much younger wife in later life. So I did look into the houses at Maxwellton a bit and I think Thomas Watt came into it somewhere. I'll try and find the notes I have about it.
John and William Watt were farmers but they just rented their farms from possibly the Earls of Eglinton. So it was very odd that they also owned property. A professional genealogist whom I discussed it with also thought it was a very odd situation.
I also have the sister of that John Watt, Janet Watt(1788-1875), marrying Alexander Aitkenhead (1784/5-1856) who is described as a provision merchant in Glasgow, and they had at least one son, named Thomas. Alexander's parents were another Alexander Aitkenhead and Agnes Young.
John Watt also had a brother Thomas Watt(1792-1879) who married Janet Reid(1792/3-1860) who was the sister of John Watt's own wife, Agnes Reid(1790-1876) - yes, it was two brothers marrying two sisters!
As the father of John, Janet and Thomas was called Allan Watt (maried to Mary Naismith), as you might expect, the eldest son of both John and Thomas was called Allan. So I suspect your Thomas Watt in Maxwellton was some kind of cousin.
I'll try and find my notes about Thomas Watt weaver in Maxwellton. The Sasine records in the Scottish Archives were very informative.
Ann