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Title: Christys of fivemile town
Post by: jollyrob on Wednesday 08 April 09 18:21 BST (UK)
Hello

we have traced my great grandfather to fivemile town in county tyrone. he married a Margaret gibson in 1900, his name was william christie b c 1870 but we think it may have been christy when he was in ireland. we would love to find out more information about margaret and william.
we believe that william was born in the workhouse and went to work on a farm when he was 10 years old, we are told that it was there he met margaret. apparently william was a gamekeeper and margaret a cook though this is only family story and we have no evidence to support this.
can anyone tell me how i would go about finding more information about these 2 ancestors. i think i have a marriage reference for them
Married on 5th july 1900 in fivemiletown county tyrone NI clogher parish church of ireland                but i have no idea how to use this tiny bit of information to actually order a marriage certificate, especially as we are not sure of the surname spelling.
can anyone help guide me in the right direction?
They left NI in approx 1902-1908. the family story is that they left ireland on a boat set for america but that there was a huge storm and the boat was damaged and blown off course ( i know its one of those family tales ) it eventually came to land in paisley scotland ( which is not on the coast as such) the family couldnt afford to wait for the boat to be fixed so they went inland to work and eventually settled in linlithgow (near edinburgh).  though apparently margarets brother did continue onto ireland when the time came.

william and margaret went on to have 7 children and over 30 grandchildren, so there are lots of decendents from these 2 people it would be lovely to be able to find out more about where we all come from.
robert
Title: Re: Christys of fivemile town
Post by: akanex2 on Wednesday 08 April 09 22:27 BST (UK)
If you have the names of bride and groom, date and exact location of marriage you can order a transcript of the marriage entry from the local Registration Office - most places in NI charge around £4 and it's usually the cheapest option (unless you want an actual certificate).

Contact Dungannon Registrar http://www.dungannon.gov.uk/index.cfm/area/page/categorykey/57
Title: Re: Christys of fivemile town
Post by: kingskerswell on Thursday 09 April 09 11:12 BST (UK)
Hi,
   Not sure if these are yours.

23 Aug 1869 William Christy born to John Christy and Agnes Watson in Enniskillen Co. Fermanagh

27 Jan 1870 Margaret Gibson born to Robert Gibson and Anne Adams in Lisnaskea, Co. Fermanagh.

Regards
Title: Re: Christys of fivemile town
Post by: jollyrob on Thursday 09 April 09 18:05 BST (UK)
can i confirm i have the right marriage before ordering a transcript?

wow those could be the parents of my 2, where did you find them???
kim
Title: Re: Christys of fivemile town
Post by: akanex2 on Thursday 09 April 09 19:09 BST (UK)
Marriage: 5 July 1900 Fivemiletown Church of Ireland, William Christie to Margaret Gibson

This will be the correct spelling/date/church but I don't think you can check anything else before ordering (but you could ring them and ask).  I also found the marriage of Robert Gibson and Anne Adams, but nothing forJohn Christie (any spelling).

Marriage: 17 Dec.1867 Enniskillen Civil Registrars Office, Robert Gibson to Anne Adams

The local registrar for this marriage is in Enniskillen:-
http://www.fermanagh.gov.uk/index.cfm?website_Key=47&Category_key=133&Page_Key=214
Title: Re: Christys of fivemile town
Post by: lyanne1990 on Friday 12 July 19 10:10 BST (UK)
Hi,
These are my great grandparents, and are buried in Linlithgow. William came over to Scotland in search of work and worked on the farms. As far as i know Margaret's brother eventually went to the USA as he couldn't settle and had to be on the move.
There is a huge family here all still still living in the same area.
Title: Re: Christys of fivemile town
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 12 July 19 10:41 BST (UK)

Welcome to RootsChat   :)

Just adding for information, the marriage in 1900.
William Christie & Maggie Gibson
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10356/5769960.pdf

KG

Title: Re: Christys of fivemile town
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 12 July 19 10:59 BST (UK)

Births in Clogher RD, 1901-1905 for Christie MMN Gibson

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01o1h/

KG
Title: Re: Christys of fivemile town
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 12 July 19 11:07 BST (UK)

Kill townland halfway between Clogher and Fivemiletown, and where the Christie's lived.
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/clogher/kill/

Mossfield subtownland which was the residence of Margaret Christie (nee Gibson) at the time of her marriage.
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/clogher/clogher/nurchossy-irish/mossfield/

KG

Title: Re: Christys of fivemile town
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 12 July 19 12:25 BST (UK)

William & Margaret Christy (sic) with her father, John Gibson in the 1901 Irish census in Kill townland.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Ballagh/Kill/1726707/

KG
Title: Re: Christys of fivemile town
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 12 July 19 12:40 BST (UK)

Birth of Margaret Gibson, 1878 MMN Watson
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02963/2085403.pdf

KG
Title: Re: Christys of fivemile town
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 12 July 19 12:42 BST (UK)

Birth of older brother William, 1875 MMN Watson.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03100/2136716.pdf

KG
Title: Re: Christys of fivemile town
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 12 July 19 12:52 BST (UK)

Possible marriage of JOHN GIBSON in 1855

Group Registration ID   N/R
SR District/Reg Area   Clogher
Returns Year   1855
Returns Quarter   1
Returns Volume No   3
Returns Page No   654

to MARGARET WATSON in 1855

Group Registration ID   N/R
SR District/Reg Area   Clogher
Returns Year   1855
Returns Quarter   1
Returns Volume No   3
Returns Page No   654

KG

Title: Re: Christys of fivemile town
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 12 July 19 14:03 BST (UK)

Older siblings:

Catherine 1866
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03540/2302930.pdf

Ann Jane 1867
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1867/03483/2280264.pdf

Edward 1870
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1870/03333/2221659.pdf

James 1872
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03246/2189469.pdf

KG

Title: Re: Christys of fivemile town
Post by: dathai on Friday 12 July 19 17:10 BST (UK)
Strange that William Jnr is not on the census as he was born 10th April 1901 and registered on 25th
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01952/1753826.pdf

the census was collected on the 17th April
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001185714/

no apparent death recorded

Margaret Gibson appears to have died 1892 age 60 at Findermore
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1892/06018/4713118.pdf
Title: Re: Christys of fivemile town
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 12 July 19 17:28 BST (UK)

Might this be the death of John Gibson in 1910 in Clogher Workhouse.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05411/4511730.pdf

KG
Title: Re: Christys of fivemile town
Post by: dathai on Saturday 13 July 19 06:37 BST (UK)
Somehow have the feeling that William was born illigitimate 1877 to Margaret Christy in the workhouse
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/03021/2107018.pdf

there appear to be no records of a Henry Christy having children 1870s in Tyrone

On Williams marriage cert his witness is Mary Christy who i think may be this girl
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Ballagh/Nurchossy_Irish/1726812/

She appears to have married Thomas McCauley in 1902 also giving her father as Henry
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1902/10284/5743068.pdf

1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Kilfaddy/Skelgagh/856297/

there is also a birth 1875 of Mary Christy in the workhouse to Margaret Christy
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03112/2141229.pdf