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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Somerset => Topic started by: barbatalice on Thursday 09 April 09 08:54 BST (UK)
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Seeking leads on Rebecca NEWMAN born about 1836 in Bath
According to her marriage certificate her parents were John NEWMAN and Marian ( Mary? Maryann) WILKINS , both deceased
Rebecca NEWMAN migrated to Australia in 1857 and married John Frederick MALCOLM in 1858 in Melbourne
It is said that John NEWMAN owned a bookshop in Bath. Also that Rebecca's parents died when she was young and she became the ward of Captain William FISHER. I have not been able to verify these 2 pieces of information
Barbatalice
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Hi there, I am new here and am looking for information on Rebecca Newman's parents if you have anything? I am stuck on her. She was my great great great grandmother. Thanks in advance.
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A tree on Ancestry has her death certificate which gives her death as 15th February 1897 aged 61. Her parents on that are given as John Newman an iron founder and Marian Newman nee Wilkins.
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Is this the family in 1841 ?
Southrop Gloucestershire -Hook
Marian Newman 25 ag lab n
Rebecca 7 y
George 5
James 2 y
Baptisms Rebecca 6.4.1834 d of John and Mary Newman lab at Southrop
George 25.9.1836
James 6.3.1839
James registration at Northleach Mar 1839 gives his mother's maiden name as Willkins.
sister Lydia Mar 1843 (born 5.2.1843 inf mother no indication father John labourer dec.)
Marriage 8.4. 1833 Southrop John Newman and Mary Wilkins wit Elizabeth and Robert Sellers
burial for Mary Newman 18.3.1848 age 36 at Southrop.Died 13th of scarfilla at Eastingdon workhouse and described as wife not widow of John.
1851 Rebecca Newman is a servant in the Bull Ring at Birmingham
Ciderdrinker
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I looked at that family, Ciderdrinker and it certainly seems to fit, especially with mother's maiden name. The only thing that put me off was the distance from Bath, so perhaps she wasn't quite certain of where she was born.
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I am pretty sure that is the right family. I had the same census information. I am looking for more information on Rebecca's parents - and any generations before them. One thing this has cleared up and that is the fact that Rebecca's mother died in India, as that is what information I had (dont know where I got it from).
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;D Hi would love to see that "Record" of the death of the mother of Rebecca being India, what was she doing there, or are you now happy with the burial in Southrop?!
Keyboard86
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I think the Southrop record sounds more in keeping with my family tree. The India thing I found online, possibly from Ancestry about 10 years or so ago. I did think it was strange!
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I wonder if this was the India death? Probably just someone seeing a similar name and "grabbing" it. The Gloucestershire one sounds far more likely.
Marryann Matilda Newman
Marital Status: Married
Death : 3 Sep 1862
Burial : 3 Sep 1862
Dibrooghur, Bengal, India
Spouse: I. Newman
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That is quite possible. I know I have a whole lot I need to delete from my tree that is not right (the ones that go way back thousands of years). It seems that Ancestry has scam tres and silly me - I was new to all of this, and I merged my tree once. Big mistake!
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Hello Ciderdrinker again
Just a few possible leads on John Newman.
Baptism at Southrop 21.9.1813 John Newman s of Richard and Hannah Newman day labourer Southrop village.
Tithe map 1840 a John Newman owns about nine fields in Southrop but looks like he is the John Newman yeoman who died 1840 (there's a Will so not yours),and a Mary Newman is renting a cottage from someone else at parcel no 152 William Lawrence.
John moves to the Birmingham area and is with a new wife Jane Craddock on the 1851 at Reynolds St
at Harborne
John Newman 36 labourer southrop
Jane 38 laundress Cannock
George 14 ? carrier Southrop
James 12 Southrop
Sarah J Newman 9 Smethwick
(Sarah Jane Newman was registered as Sarah Jane Craddock June 1842 Birmingham illegitimate).
Jane Craddock her mother was baptised at Cannock 30.5.1812 d of Richard and Sarah Craddock labourer
And John and Jane marry in Kings Norton Mar 1851.I can't see a transcript of that marriage.
But there is another interesting one at St George's Birmingham 13.7.1843
Charles Richard Newman lab Moseley St Richard lab
Jane Craddock Moseley st d of Richard lab
wit George Row and S Phillips.
Unfortunately John Newman makes a cross on both the marriage with Mary Wilkins and this marriage so nothing to make a comparison.
The children seem to stay put and marry in Birmingham but John and Jane disappear.
However there are two possible deaths in Victoria Australia
John Newman Victoria 1859 age 45
Jane Newman Victoria 1855 age 40.
Just something to ponder perhaps?
Ciderdrinker