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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Armagh => Topic started by: Kohab on Thursday 09 April 09 22:20 BST (UK)
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If there is anyone out there connected to the Rowntree / Rountree family, who were in Co Armagh in the 19th C onwards please reply. My grandfather was born Loughall in 1890 and know his parents and grandparents were from that area.
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Hi.
I am not connected to your family but I have access to some Rowntree and a lot of Rountree information. If you can supply names and rough dates we may be able to help.
Regards
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Thanks for getting back I will list what I know.
My grandfather was Robert Henry Rowntree bn 3rd May1890/91. He was illegitimate. His mother was Annie Rountree bn 1/9/1867 in Loughall. My mum was told his fathers name was Browne, but cannot be sure. Robert served with the Royal Irish Fusilliers in WW1 at The Somme then later in the 8th Tank Battalion. He married Isabella Florence Douglas at Annaghmore Church on 7th May 1918.
Isabella's parents were John Douglas and Mary Calvert.
Annie Rountree was the eldest of a number of children by James Rountree and Mary Ann Orr. They were married 4th Oct 1866 in Loughall.
Children known at present although some doubts over Thomas / Samuel.
Annie
James bn 10 Nov 1870, Loughall. Either he or one of his daughter married a Hannigan?
William Henry, bn 8 Jan 1878
Elizabeth, Bn Abt 1880, married a King and had Mary, Dorrie and Alfie?
George, Bn Abt 1882
Mary (Minnie) bn Abt 1885
Samuel? bn abt 1888
Thomas? U/K
I know that Annie, William, George and Minnie came to England but otherwise have no knowledge what happened to the rest of the family.
Finally I know that James Rountree's father was William, bn Abt 1820, Whilst Mary Ann Orr's father was Robert his occupation was listed as soldier. Mary Ann was the Midwife for Loughall and also cleaned in the school.
Any help no matter how small would be appreciated.
Thank you
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Hi,
I can find very little which you do not already have but one marriage which I found was for
John Douglas and MINNIE Calvert on 7 Feb 1894 in Loughgall Presbyterian Church.
Another which may be of interest was the marriage of an Anna Rebecca Rountree to Robert Brown on 13 Jun 1911 in Armagh 1st Presbyterian Church.
Regards
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Thanks for your help, I suppose the only way forward is to check the actual remaining parish records, if they exist. I also await the 1911 census being placed on-line.
Best wishes
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Yes, all my side of the family come from Richhill, just south of Loughall. This is the area where the family was established in the 17th. century.
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Thanks for your help, I suppose the only way forward is to check the actual remaining parish records, if they exist. I also await the 1911 census being placed on-line.
Best wishes
1911 and 1901 Irish census are both now online-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search
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Mart00007,
Your posting came through with no message attached.
Regards
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I thought there was a message posted earlier- perhaps it's been removed for some reason?
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I have the same James Rowntree born 10 Nov 1870 in my family tree.
He was married to Rachel McCall, whose half-brother Robert was my great-great grandfather. Unfortunately, I have no more information on James.
Good luck!
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Hello there, i've just came across your post. I'm susan georgina rowntree, george rowntree from loughgall (mentioned in your post) is my great grandfather. He moved to atherstone in warwickshire, where his daughter, my grandmother, still lives. My father moved to the north east where we still live. It would be great to hear from you, susan
:)
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Hi,
James ROUNTREE married Rachel McCall in Armagh Second Presbyterian Church on 14 Sept 1909.
Regards
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Hi my name is Claire Chalmers I found your post and realised my family tree is linked to yours. In your post you mention Elizabeth Rountree who married a king and had children - Alfred, Dorrie, Mary and Edith and Evelyn. Evelyn King is my Nanny. Would love to hear from others who have links in the family tree. I now live in Belfast Northern Ireland. :)
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Chalm,
25 Feb 1904 John King married Elizabeth Rountree in Loughgall Church of Ireland Armagh.
Regards
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Thank you for the information kingskerswell. What is confusing me is the spelling of Rowntree/ Rountree. When did it change and why ? In the 1911 census it is rowntree and it looks the same in the 1901 census.
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Hi,
I don't think that the spelling was changed. It is more likely that the person who wrote the name down thought it was spelled a particular way. Spelling did not really become fixed until about 1900.
Regards
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Claire,
It is fantastic to hear from you. Your Elizabeth was very close to my grandfather when he was young and living in Loughall. She acted as his mum after his own mother married and moved to England.
I have a photo of Jodie King (1930ish), and my mums cousin Mable came over to see us in the 1980's. It would great to learn more about our families.
Best wishes
Shaun
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Hi my great grandmother was Mary Anne Rowntree/Rountree/. My grandmother was Elizabeth who married John King. Their children were Alfie, Dorothy, Evelyn Francis, Mary, Jack, & Edith. Evelyn Francis was my mother. Only Edith is still alive.
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Greetings,
Your great grandmother Elizabeth was Annie,my great grandmothers younger sister, which makes us third cousins. Do you still live near Armagh? My branch of the family moved to Atherstone in North Warwickshire. My Mum did go over to Loughgall with her Mum in about 1947, a couple of years after her Dad died. She recalled meeting some of your family along with seeing her Mum's family (Douglas) who had a farm in Tullyroan.
One question, were your side of the family tall. Annie was 5' 10" (very tall for a woman bn 1867), whilst my grandfather was 6' 4". How he survived the first battle of the Somme I don't know?
If you would like to know more please get back.
Shaun
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Hi,
James ROUNTREE married Rachel McCall in Armagh Second Presbyterian Church on 14 Sept 1909.
Regards
I wonder did they have any children?
I`m trying to trace a Florence Rountrees background. She worked with my mother in London in their young days, she visited us every year back in the 60`s and early 70`s, i reckon she was born 1900`s or thereabouts.
She also stayed at the Orange Hall in Loughgall at that time and there was close connections with the Halligans there
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Hi,
James ROUNTREE married Rachel McCall in Armagh Second Presbyterian Church on 14 Sept 1909.
Regards
I wonder did they have any children?
I`m trying to trace a Florence Rountrees background. She worked with my mother in London in their young days, she visited us every year back in the 60`s and early 70`s, i reckon she was born 1900`s or thereabouts.
She also stayed at the Orange Hall in Loughgall at that time and there was close connections with the Halligans there
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Hi,
James ROUNTREE married Rachel McCall in Armagh Second Presbyterian Church on 14 Sept 1909.
Regards
I wonder did they have any children?
I`m trying to trace a Florence Rountrees background. She worked with my mother in London in their young days, she visited us every year back in the 60`s and early 70`s, i reckon she was born 1900`s or thereabouts.
She also stayed at the Orange Hall in Loughgall at that time and there was close connections with the Halligans there
Hi. Florence Rountree was sister of Minnie Rountree who married David Halligan. They lived next door to the Orange Hall in Loughgall. From relatives I have spoken to Florence - known as Flossie lived in England and looked after a boy possibly called Peter Martin.
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correct ulsterman, don`t think Florence was ever married, she worked with my mother in London for Commander R. P. Martin and wife Doreen, they also owned this place over here http://www.craigduncastle.com/history/ their only child Peter Stott Martin had MS.
Visited Florence in Loughgall a couple of times, vaguely remember an Alfie and Tommy at the time...
Do you know who her parents were?
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Hi Susan, George was my great grandad and my grandad was Reginald we just started the family tree and wondered how you got on cheers Mark
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Welcome to Rootschat :) Unfortunately Susan only made that 1 post in 2012 and hasn't logged in here the last 3 1/2 years so you may not get a reply.
There are lots of new online resources available since this thread was started so if you do want help with anything just let us know :)
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Hi I've just started doing the family tree and seem to keep coming across your posts and wondered how you got on. My grandad was Reginald Rowntree son of George who came over from Ireland both lived in Atherstone and we think George was Johns son, let me know if you can help cheers Mark
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According to earlier post in this thread, George (born c1882) was son of James Rountree & Mary Ann Orr. This looks like the same George (age 18) in 1901- mother Mary Ann is a widow-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Loughgall/Loughgall_Town/1016065
Same family in 1911 with lots more detail-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Loughgall/Loughgall_Town/327704
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Thanks
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Hi I have just read your post. My grandfather was robert browne. He served in the royal fusiliers in ww1. We dont know much about his background. I wonder has this any connection to your post. Thanks danny