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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Nottinghamshire => Topic started by: bibi on Saturday 19 February 05 01:07 GMT (UK)
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I am looking for the wife and parents of Nat Langham from Hinckley. He was the Bare Knuckle Prize Street Fighting Champion of England.He went to Live in London and died in Brompton on 1/9/1871.He is buried in the Brompton Cemetary.
I am his grt grt grt g/daughter. any help in locating his wife and parents would be of great help . thank you. chrissy
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Hi Chrissy
Have you had any success in tracing Nat Langham. His mother's name is Mary born around 1787 in Hinckley. She is there on the 1851 census HO107/2082/255/25 with son Samuel and married daughter - Looms.
Let me know if you have already found this as it is some time since you posted the question.
Marion
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hi. Stephen Nathaniel Langham, father Nathaniel 1770 mother Mary 1787 have you got the @photo@ of him on boxing bill? not blood decendant, but he married in to the family. Know a lot from him down, on wifes side if interested
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hi. Stephen Nathaniel Langham, father Nathaniel 1770 mother Mary 1787 have you got the @photo@ of him on boxing bill? not blood decendant, but he married in to the family. Know a lot from him down, on wifes side if interested
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someone remove the email address please
who ever did many thanks
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I joined today (22/7/2011) and am a great great grandson of Stephen Nathaniel Langham, Champion of the Middle Weights. After he retired from boxing and became a licenced victualler, he married Elizabeth Watson on 10 Dec 1853 at St Martin in the Fields, Westminster (one of the witnesses was Ben Caunt, heavyweight champion boxer & Elizabeth's uncle). Elizabeth never appeared in any census records as Nat's wife because she died from peritonitus on 3 Oct 1860 at their home at Cambrian Stores, 12 Castle Street (now Charing Cross Road), Westminster. Cambrian Stores was a "fighting house" as evidenced by Nat's letters in The Times e.g. on 9/5/1860 (see The Times Digital Archives).
Nat and Elizabeth had two sons (both died during childhood, as evidenced by the first grant of Letters of Administration re Nat's estate in 1872) and two daughters, Alice (my great grandmother, who had eight children) and Elizabeth (she had one child with an unnamed father and the child died at age 1; she married a widower when she was 30 but had no children with him).
Nat's marriage certificate showed his father as Nathaniel Langham, framework knitter, but his father was really unknown - Nat's mother, Mary Langham was unmarried, although she had four children, including Ann Langham (1812-1897); Ann had her first two children with no known father(s), her next two with widower Joseph Looms and finally two more with Thomas Coley.
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hi. Stephen Nathaniel Langham, father Nathaniel 1770 mother Mary 1787 have you got the @photo@ of him on boxing bill? not blood decendant, but he married in to the family. Know a lot from him down, on wifes side if interested
As Nat is my great great grandfather, I would be interested to know more about his wife, Elizabeth Watson. I know that her marriage certificate shows her father as William Watson, slater and that her mother was probably a Caunt; William's siblings alive in Feb 1872 were William (living in the USA), Richard, Alice Mary, Christiana & Mary (source: Letters of Administration re Nat Langham). I have a picture of the boxing poster issued after Nat's death, showing him in boxing pose with his fight records listed underneath.
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Hi Chrissy
I am a great grandson of Nat's daughter, Alice, and have posted information about Nat today. How are you linked to him?
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Hi Frank
I am assuming the RC stands for Romeo Calvetti ?
Willis
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Hi Willis
Good try - "Romeo" was used for some of his descendants but I was not one of them, although I have a male line to him.
Re Nat's mentor, Ben Caunt, I now know that he was one of five children (all boys) and now believe that Nat's mother-in-law is a cousin of Ben's wife via a Butler family link. Are you in a position to shed any light on that?
Regards
Frank
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Hi Frank
Its all too far away from my tree I'm afraid. My link into the Calvetti's is remote and by marriage. My 1st Cousin x1 Winnifred Grace Underwood married Charles F Calvett in 1941.
Willis
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Hi Willis
Charles Frederick Langham Calvett is my first cousin, once removed, who was born in Romford on 19 May 1918 and died in South Brighton, Adelaide, South Australia on 20 Jul 2005; his eldest son, Michael Charles Langham Calvett, has been teaching English in Moscow for a number of years and suddenly died there last week.
Regards
Frank
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Dear Frank,
I do not know if you know this, but there is a plaque to him in Hinckley, as to where he was born. I walk past it every day, if you don't already have the picture I will take one on my phone and send it to you.
Best Regards
Ben
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Dear Ben
I visited Hinckley a few years ago to see my great great grandfather's birthplace but did not see any plaque to him. I would really appreciate a photo please.
Kind regards
Frank
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Dear Frank,
I have been trying to send the pictures but the website is saying there is an issue, if you couuld let me know your email address i will send them to you
Best Regards
Ben
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Dear Ben
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Kind regards
Frank
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it has been deletd, mine is g a f f er 5 6 0 at msn . com
if that does not show up, where else can i find you to contact you? lol
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Hi - cant recall how many greats but I am great great great granddaughter of Nat. My granddad thomas whos to tell me amazing stories of Nat and Elizabeth he was very clued up on then unfortunately it was 20 years ago and cant really remember them. My Langham side are originally from Hinckley/stoke goldin then moved to Mablethorpe must be somewhat back in 1980s sometime im guessing (afraid im the only one left on this branch of the tree) the Langham creast had a motto - something like noly tangere me I think 'touch me not' (not 100% like I said 20 years ago aged 7 when I got the family history)
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Hi
Nat is my great great grandfather and I am descended from his daughter, Alice Watson Langham (1854-1927).
FrankRC
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Hi frank
If my memory serves me right alice is also my connection I can recall my grandad mentioning alice watson but again the family history lesson is very vague and our branch is not a happy ending one so I can not confirm but nat is my so many great grandad just dont know where to start to get the full tree lol
Kind regards
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Hi. I have a large picture of NAT Langham that has been on my wall for over 30 years. It belonged to my husband's Great Uncle who ran a farm in Cumbria. Not sure what the link is but he was originally from Chesterfield. He may just have bought it at auction. I have not researched who he was until today l just liked the frame and thought it was a relative but now l don't think he was. Great uncle called Charlie Rollins on Wife Deb Barnes