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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: GayleSehpherd on Tuesday 14 April 09 10:11 BST (UK)
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Can anyone help with information re CHRISTOPHER OSBORNE B Abt 1860. He married SOPHIA POOL B Abt 1868 on 30 Dec 1891 in Adelaide. They then travelled to Broken Hill where their son CHARLES OSBORNE was born on 3 Jan 1892. I am trying to find out who the parents of both Christopher and Sophie were and where they were both born. Keep coming up with blanks so any help would be most appreciated.
Regards
Gayle
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Hi Gayle,
The marriage record lists both of their fathers were named Charles.
Births to parents Charles POOL and Mary ROWE
Nathaniel Pool 18 Dec 1855 Not recorded Dist TMu 6 367
Elizabeth POOL 15 Jun 1859 Kooringa Dist Bur 17 250
Charles Henry POOLE 30 May 1861 Kooringa Dist Bur 22 401
Sophia POOL b 15 March 1863 Kooringa Dist Bur 28 364 parents
Amelia POOLE 14 Nov 1864 Kooringa Dist Bur 34 113
Thomas John POOLE 28 Aug 1866 Kadina Dist Dal 46 170
Sophia POOLE 27 Jun 1868 Kadina Dist Dal 65 107
Richard Henry POOLE 7 Feb 1870 Kadina Dist Dal 80 457
Cheers Kris :)
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By the marriage details he was 31 years old father Charles
she was 23 father also Charles
Jenn
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Whoops doubling up with Kris
If you can purchase the son's birthcertificate in NSW
the following information should be detailed on it
Birth Certificates
Full name, sex, date and place of birth
Mother's details including full name and maiden name, age, occupation, place of birth
Father's details including full name, age, occupation, place of birth
Date and place of parent's marriage
Previous children of the relationship
So you should find out where Christopher was born.
Four days from Adelaide to Broken Hill in those days from wedding to birth that would have been very trying.
JEnn
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No sign of a birth for Christopher in SA. Looking at UK I do find a chap I think may be a possibility
Christopher OSBORN b Sep 1858 Penzance 5c 313
Cornwall census is free online
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,144624.0.html
he can be found with his parents Charles and Ann in Treway, Zennor Cornwall (Penzance District) in 1861 and 1871. Parents still there in 1881 no sign of Christopher and I don't see a death. Charles is a farmer. Charles and Ann are already married by 1841 with a six month old son Charles. Possible marriage
OSBORN Charles = OSBORN Ann Sep 1/4 1840 Penzance 9 247
Cheers Kris :)
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Thanks Kris and Jenn,
Re Charles Pool and Mary Rowe, am I correct in my reading of the text that they named two daughters Sophia? Or were only those children spelt Pool were from the one family? Do I also understand correctly that Charles Pool and Mary Rowe were married in SA?
I am pretty sure the info about Christopher is correct. I always was told the Osbornes came from Cornwall. Will now do some more digging on them.
Cheers
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Hi Gayle,
Yes Charles and Mary did name two daughters Sophia
Sophia POOLE died 15 Jun 1867 Kadina Dist Dal 27 460. She was aged 4 years residence Kadina rel Charles Poole father
Nathaniel POOLE died 2 Jun 1872 Kadina Dist Dal 48 147. He was aged 17 years residence Kadina rel Charles Poole father
Possible death for Mary
Mary POOLE died 10 Apr 1909 Hospital Adelaide dist Ade 340 231 She was aged 78 years rel Charles Poole husband
No marriage for Charles and Mary in SA - Looks like the marriage was in Cornwall
Charles POOL = Mary ROWE Jun 1/4 1854 Liskeard 5c 101
Cheers Kris :)
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You're a gem Kris, thanks so much for that. Another question is Karinga Dist Bur an area in South Australia - I thought it might be Burra where there were a lot of cornish miners. Feel silly asking but I guess I need to know this.
Again thanks a million.
Gayle
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Hi Gayle,
Yes District Bur is Burra - Kooringa is a part of Burra (100 miles north of Adelaide.) I expect Charles was probably a miner as they have relocated from Burra to Kadina another mining area. Many moved on from Burra to the Copper Triangle, (Kadina, Moonta, Wallaroo). In SA's very early history, during the mining boom Burra's population in 1851 was 5000 (second to Adelaide, and probably 4 times more than it is today) If you look at the timeline you will see the decline about the time Charles moved to Kadina. Many Cornish miners came seeking a better life, leaving a big Cornish history and architecture in Burra.
http://www.burrahistory.info/
Incidentally for a lot of SA miners, the next stop was Broken Hill
Cheers Kris :)
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Thanks ever so much for the info. My husband and I have just come home to Perth from a 2 year trip around Australia. One of my favourite places was Burra. I just loved all the history there and the old buildings that have been incredibly well kept. We went to the Cornish Miners settlement and also spent a lot of time just driving around looking at all the history there. I wish I had of known then that my long losts had lived there. South Australia has just so much history for me and I guest that's why I love it so much.
Thanks again
Gayle
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Hi Gayle,
Mary Rowe and Charles Poole are my 3rd Great Grandparents, they were married in Cornwall and later Immigrated to Burra, South Australia with Mary's parents Nathaniel and Elizabeth and siblings on the ship "Standard" in 1854. Some of the family both Poole and Rowe must have moved onto Broken Hill as their son Richard Edward Poole married Muriel (Mary) Elizabeth Hoare and then they eventually made their way over to Fremantle and Kalgoorlie. We too drove into Burra years ago thinking what a gorgeous place, we only stayed the night but wished we could have stayed longer. I was researching the Poole and Rowe side of the family back then and had hit a brick wall and had know idea of the Burra connection. There was something about the town and the feeling I got when we were there, we both said we need to come back one day but had know idea why. about two weeks after we arrived home I received an email from a family history place in Adelaide saying that Charles had traveled with the Rowe family to Burra. very spooky. I would love to know more about them but haven't had time.
Does anyone know if there is a registry for where they lived at the time between 1854-1880s? or a registry for the mining companies at all?
I still haven't worked out how Richard and Mary came to fremantle, the Aunties have said by boat to Freo then to Kalgoorlie but a lot went inland aswell.