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Title: 1841/51 look up please
Post by: welshspencer on Tuesday 14 April 09 13:57 BST (UK)
Hi please could somone look up the 1841/ and 51 census for llantwit major for a  Christoper Wilkin c 1790 born Llantwit Major

regards
Title: Re: 1841/51 look up please
Post by: Pels. on Tuesday 14 April 09 14:50 BST (UK)

1841 census:
HO107/1416/8, Folio 8, Page 7

Glamorgan, Llantwit Major
West ? Street

Christopher Wilkins, 50, Ind
Ann Price, 35, FS
Cissel Hopkin, 15, FS
Thomas Reynold, 30, Ag Lab

All born in county.

Kind regards,

Pels.
   
Title: Re: 1841/51 look up please
Post by: Pels. on Tuesday 14 April 09 14:57 BST (UK)


1851 census:
HO107/2461, Folio 438, Page 11

Glamorgan, Llantwit Major

Christopher Wilkins, h. unm, 61, Proprieter of Land
Edward Deere, servant, wdr,    59, House Servant
Ann Price, servant unm, 47, House Servant

All born in Llantwit Major, again the address appears to be West Street, the census image has been filmed on an angle making it difficult to read ?

Added .. Checked the address in 1861 and it is indeed West Street.

Kind regards,

Pels.   
Title: Re: 1841/51 look up please
Post by: welshspencer on Tuesday 14 April 09 16:30 BST (UK)
Thank you pels


whats is intresting is that his Wife Anne Wilkins (nee Snook) did not die until 1845, but is missing on the 1841, unless she was staying with other family members st the time it was taken.
Title: Re: 1841/51 look up please
Post by: welshspencer on Tuesday 14 April 09 16:40 BST (UK)
I wonder if you would be so kind as to see if Christopers son

Edward Wilkins c 1810 is in the census
Title: Re: 1841/51 look up please
Post by: Pels. on Tuesday 14 April 09 16:50 BST (UK)


Hi again,

Surely this can't have been his mum .. Housekeeper .. ?  :-\

1841 census:
HO107/1416/7, Folio 9, Page 12

Glamorgan, Llantwit Major

Edward Wilkins, 30, Ind
Ann ? Snook, 63, Housekeeper

Regards,

Pels.
Title: Re: 1841/51 look up please
Post by: Pels. on Tuesday 14 April 09 16:55 BST (UK)



Here is Edward in 1851 .. !  :)

1851 census:
HO107/2461, Folio 446, Page 27

Glamorgan, Llantwit Major

Edward Willkins, h. unm, 40, Proprieter of Houses, b. Glamorgan, Llantwit Major
Title: Re: 1841/51 look up please
Post by: Pels. on Tuesday 14 April 09 17:16 BST (UK)



1861 census:
RG9/4075, Folio 74, Page 24

Glamorgan, Llantwit Major
Church Street

Edward Wilkins, h.unm 50, Proprieter of Houses, Glamorgan, Llantwit Major




Title: Re: 1841/51 look up please
Post by: Pels. on Tuesday 14 April 09 17:20 BST (UK)



1871 census:
RG10/5417, Folio 4, Page 2

Glamorgan, Llantwit Major
Corner House

John Williams, h. mar, 57, Cordwainer, Glamorgan , Kennington
Mary, wife, 44
Margaret, dau,   13, Scholar
John, son 12, Scholar
John Powell, father in law, mar, 69, Shoemaker
Edwd Wilkins, lodger, unm 60, Annuitant

All born in Llantwit Major
   
Title: Re: 1841/51 look up please
Post by: Pels. on Tuesday 14 April 09 17:35 BST (UK)



1891 census:
RG12/4453, Folio 67, Page 22

Glamorgan, Llantwit Major
Corner House

Mary Williams, h. wid, 62, Grocer
John, son, unm, 32, Asst Grocer
Ellen, dau, unm, 17, Music Mistress
Edward Wilkins, lodger, unm,    80, Living on his own Means
Morgan Thomas, lodger, unm, 64, Living on his own Means

All born in Llantwit Major with the exception of Morgan, who was born in Wick

Kind regards,

Pels.
   
Title: Re: 1841/51 look up please
Post by: welshspencer on Tuesday 14 April 09 18:44 BST (UK)
Hi Peb


and than you for all the infomation

Ann  Snook had  6 illigitimate children by 4 diffrent men

Thomas Dembrey whom she had one  children
Thomas ballard one child
William John 2 children
Christopher Wilkins 2 children
Title: Re: 1841/51 look up please Christopher Wilkins
Post by: jennyrob on Monday 25 September 17 15:33 BST (UK)
I am helping a friend and Christopher Wilkins I believe was the  father of
 a son Christopher Wilkins according to census  born about 1813/14

 I have birth of a Christopher Wilkins  born Llantwit Major in 1813 as a base child of Christopher Wilkins gent .
My Christopher has no father given on his wedding cert  to Jane Rees This has led me to believe that christor junior was disowned by his father
Christopher senior stayed single all his life Constant on the census 1841/51/61 is Ann price born 1804 house servant Thinking this was the mother Does anyone know anything about Christopher Senior and the family of West House West Street llantwit major Thanks
Title: Re: 1841/51 look up please
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Monday 25 September 17 18:39 BST (UK)
I am helping a friend and Christopher Wilkins I believe was the  father of
 a son Christopher Wilkins according to census  born about 1813/14

 I have birth of a Christopher Wilkins  born Llantwit Major in 1813 as a base child of Christopher Wilkins gent .
My Christopher has no father given on his wedding cert  to Jane Rees This has led me to believe that christor junior was disowned by his father
Christopher senior stayed single all his life Constant on the census 1841/51/61 is Ann price born 1804 house servant Thinking this was the mother Does anyone know anything about Christopher Senior and the family of West House West Street llantwit major Thanks


Unlikely Ann was mother born 1804 Christopher Jnr b 1813.

Glamorgan Pedigrees, bottom left corner, continued next top column.

http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3094119/3094127/46/christopher%20Wilkins

Cas
Title: Re: 1841/51 look up please
Post by: jennyrob on Monday 25 September 17 23:27 BST (UK)
Thanks for your help Wow what a pedigree How can I prove that My Christopher s father was Christopher
Title: Re: 1841/51 look up please
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Tuesday 26 September 17 08:03 BST (UK)
Bit difficult to prove, but as named on bapt with same given name seems likely. Could also possibly be the CW of Little Frampton (1764) who died 1837. Also of Llantwit Major.

Although previous info suggests Ann Snook as mother to 2 children by CW b1790. Edward 1810 -1893.  Edwards bapt has twin sister Mary, Who likely married William Sweeting 1829.  Possibly Anne Snook was mother to your Chistopher?

1893 Probate for Edward https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk

Some history on Wilkins family
http://llantwitmajorhistorysociety.co.uk/2017/05/26/wilkins/

Asking any who have a claim to CW b 1790 estate, top right column under notices.

http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3093382/3093386/26/Christopher%20Wilkins%20lwest

Died July 2 1862, under deaths

http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3093176/3093181/37/Christopher%20Wilkins%20lwest
Title: Re: 1841/51 look up please
Post by: jennyrob on Friday 29 September 17 22:53 BST (UK)
Thanks for your help Yes thats a possibility that Ann Snook is his mother
 Does seem away of proving it   
Would there be any other records I could look for
Title: Re: 1841/51 look up please
Post by: jennyrob on Friday 06 October 17 23:57 BST (UK)
Bit difficult to prove, but as named on bapt with same given name seems likely. Could also possibly be the CW of Little Frampton (1764) who died 1837. Also of Llantwit Major.

Although previous info suggests Ann Snook as mother to 2 children by CW b1790. Edward 1810 -1893.  Edwards bapt has twin sister Mary, Who likely married William Sweeting 1829.  Possibly Anne Snook was mother to your Chistopher?

1893 Probate for Edward https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk

I have been looking for the CW of Little Frampton Can you point me in the right direction Thanks

Some history on Wilkins family
http://llantwitmajorhistorysociety.co.uk/2017/05/26/wilkins/

Asking any who have a claim to CW b 1790 estate, top right column under notices.

http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3093382/3093386/26/Christopher%20Wilkins%20lwest

Died July 2 1862, under deaths

http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3093176/3093181/37/Christopher%20Wilkins%20lwest