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Title: BLONG or BLANC of Portarlington
Post by: corisande on Wednesday 15 April 09 20:54 BST (UK)
I am looking for any connections to the Blongs (also written Blanc) of Portarlington, Laois.

The family were Huguenots, Le Blanc, and gradually the name altered. Even in official records it varies both with inscription and transcription.

I am trying to sort out the relationships of my direct ancestor, George Blanc. I give below a tree, can anyone add or clarify anything on the Blongs of Portarlington
Title: Re: BLONG or BLANC of Portarlington
Post by: Jack2227 on Friday 17 April 09 16:14 BST (UK)
Ronnie Matthews is the expert on that and is in Portarlington, a 'Huguenot' town.

Just type in Ronnie Matthews, Portarlington and his home page will come up.
Title: Re: BLONG or BLANC of Portarlington
Post by: Jack2227 on Friday 17 April 09 19:25 BST (UK)
There were two families of Le Blanc in Portarlington about 1699, that of  'Le Noble Homme Louys Le Blanc, Sieur de Perce, Capitanie pensionne' and Claud Le Blanc, "boucher". The latter family were still existing under the name of " Blong" when Sir Erasmus Borrowes wrote. This change of name seems to have been early effected, for Peter " Blang" places a tombstone to mark the burial-place of his family in 1756, and was laid there himself three years later. Elizabeth Phelan, his daughter, was also buried there, from which it would seem that they, unlike most of the early colonists, married outside the French stock.
Theodore Le Blanc, minister of La Rochelle, who was attained in 1685 for having received a 'relapse' into his Church, and fled to Denmark, was, Sir Erasmus Borrowes states, probably of the same family as La Blanc, " the gentleman". The name however, seems to have been localized elsewhere in Ireland at the same time. for an Andrew and a Mark Le Blanc, merchants from Ales, took Oaths and received their naturalization in Dublin in 1704. It is still extant in Portarlington.

(To add a sad note to that, a man named, Jim Le Blanc was kllled in a car accident on the 12th May 2008 in Portarlington, and left a wife and children)
Title: Re: BLONG or BLANC of Portarlington
Post by: corisande on Monday 20 April 09 11:26 BST (UK)
Hi

Thanks for the info. It is a small world with the Blongs - I have been in touch with Ronnie Matthews for  number of years, and met him in Portarlington in February.

Ronnie & I have exchanged as much information between ourselves as we can. What I ma trying to winkle out here is anyone with contacts to other Blongs/Blancs from Portarlington - for example I know some went to the USA

Thanks again for the input and for Ronnies email

Title: Re: BLONG or BLANC of Portarlington
Post by: mariono on Friday 28 August 09 17:56 BST (UK)
Hi,

I've been doing a bit of family research and my g grandmother was called Christina la Blanc. She was born in Portarlington c1875. I know that her father's name was William and that he was a butcher, and that she had a brother, also called William, born c 1883.
She married in Castlebar in 1897 to an English soldier. Her brother was also in the army and served during WW1. I know his address abt 1925 was Grouse Lodge, Derry Villa, Portarlington.

Don't know if this may be any connection for you. Have very little other info I'm afraid but I'd love to find out more.....
Title: Re: BLONG or BLANC of Portarlington
Post by: corisande on Friday 28 August 09 18:47 BST (UK)
Mariano

Thanks you for that bit about your ancestors from Portarlington.

The real challenge with the Blongs is to sort them out in the period around 1800. The problem is that they were all butchers, they are even mentioned in Joyce's Ulysees as butchers, and a lot were called William Blong.

You should be able to get your Christina's parents, but it will be more difficult to get her grandparents.
Title: Re: BLONG or BLANC of Portarlington
Post by: enfield on Monday 23 November 09 10:47 GMT (UK)
BLONG, JAMES. Rank: Lance Corporal. Regiment or Service: Connaught Rangers. Unit: 1st Battalion. Age at death; 24. Date of Death:23-November-1914. Service Number; 10338. Born in Mountmellick, Queen's County.  Enlisted in Curragh Camp while living in Portarlington.  Killed in Action. Supplementary Information; Son of James Blong, of Spa Lane, Portarlingdon, Leix. Grave or Memorial Reference: Panel 43. Memorial: Le Touret Memorial in France. Pas de Calais, France.

BLANC, JOHN.  Rank: Private. Regiment or Service: Royal Dublin Fusiliers. Unit; 1st Battalion. Date of Death:14-October-1918. Service No:22754.  Born in Edenderry, King’s County. Enlisted in Bolton while living in Manchester.  Killed in Action. Age at Death;29. Supplementary information; Son of John and Elizabeth Blanc, of 7, Queen St., Hulme, Manchester. Native of Edenderry, Leix. Grave or Memorial Reference: V. D. II. Cemetery: Dadizeele New British Cemetery in Belgium.
Title: Re: BLONG or BLANC of Portarlington
Post by: corisande on Wednesday 06 January 10 19:38 GMT (UK)
So that anyone researching the small number of Blongs.Blangs in Ireland follows various threads, I have put some more on this thread now

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,416477.0.html

which is under Offaly
Title: Re: BLONG or BLANC of Portarlington
Post by: Jack2227 on Monday 31 May 10 21:03 BST (UK)
The Blanc's, butchers, transmitted the business from father to son for more than 150 years, and the names is still recognisable at Portarlington under the name Blong.

Regugees from France threw aside their French names, or rather translated them to english, Le Blace-White.

Old Lea cemetery, Portarlington
Susan Blanc; 1854
Title: Re: BLONG or BLANC of Portarlington
Post by: corisande on Monday 31 May 10 21:12 BST (UK)
Seanmac, there were actually about 6 different butchers shops in Portarlington at one time, all run by different Blongs

...and even gaining a mention in James Joyce's Finnegan's Wake.  Finnegans Wake by James Joyce has a reference to them "Blong's best from Portarlington's Butchery, with a side of riceypeasy " Book III chapter 1.

Title: Re: BLONG or BLANC of Portarlington
Post by: Jack2227 on Friday 02 July 10 22:43 BST (UK)
Laois History (Portlaoise Library)

A cavalryman Claude Le Blanc, who retired on half-pay from Miremont's squadron of Dragoons, opened a butcher shop; became, in 1732, Inspector of butcher-stalls throughout  the borough, and sired nine children before his death in 1754.
Le Blanc, and his family (some of who Anglicized their surname to Blong) have secured immortality for them selves in the line of Joyce's Finnegans Wake.
Title: Re: BLONG or BLANC of Portarlington
Post by: corisande on Saturday 03 July 10 07:52 BST (UK)
Thanks seanmac

That is very interesting. I knew that Claude was the supposed founder of the butchers line, but had not been able to authenticate it

For the interested the origins of the Blongs in Portarlington are here  (http://www.grantonline.com/grant-family-individuals/blong-george-1790/blanc-george-1790.htm)

Basically the Huguenot records existed before 1735 and after 1805, so one has to plug that gap. What I am left with is the chart at the top of this page with my known descendants. And in addition the page linked in this post, which has a chart giving Claude's descendants through to those born circa 1735. The man on the chart on the top of this page called "common ancestor" is undoubtedly one of Claudes grandchildren, I suspect William (1726 - 1807) in as much as the name William contines in my family, while Peter (Pierre) or John (Jacques) or Daniel or Carson do not.

It would take a lucky break to prove it!
Title: Re: BLONG or BLANC of Portarlington
Post by: marie45del on Friday 16 July 10 22:03 BST (UK)
 :)This is most interesting and fantastic for the person trying to work back to the Huguenots. I only started today to look into this for our side of the family.
 My brother and I are extremely Francophiles and the only ones from all our cousins to be like that so we think there may be something from the Delaney side which I think came from Delauney or Delaunay.
I have often seen signs in Normandy and northern France for Delaunay and often wondered.
If anyone has information about Delaunays or Delauneys in the Portaoise area, back to the Huguenots and related to Delaneys, I would love to hear back! Great grandfather was John from Lough Teague (Teagh?) area but that is all I know - his son Patrick Joseph went to Belfast and died up there.
Thanks.

Moderator's Note: if anyone can help please see separate thread-
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,468598.msg3287634.html#msg3287634
Title: Re: BLONG or BLANC of Portarlington
Post by: Jack2227 on Thursday 22 July 10 12:33 BST (UK)
Monastrevin cemetery, Kildare.

Blanc Arthur Robert; 27/2/1984 (55)
Sarah (wife);11/2/1999 (77)
Ross (baby); 3/9/1995-8/9/1995 (son of Daphane & David)
Title: Re: BLONG or BLANC of Portarlington
Post by: Jack2227 on Sunday 02 January 11 21:45 GMT (UK)
The Brisbane Courier 1896;

Blanc-on the 29th October at her residence, Mary st Brisbane,
Elizabeth, dtr of late Roe Sweeney O Donnell, Dunmore house
Dunmore County Clare, and widow of the late Christopher Blanc
Portarlington, Queens County Ireland.
Thy Will be done.

Jack
Title: Re: BLONG or BLANC of Portarlington
Post by: Jack2227 on Sunday 16 January 11 17:24 GMT (UK)
New South Wales Convict records; Queens County, Ireland

Blong Henry; 29, 1827 trial, life, 1789 born, stealing money, married 2children, butcher.

Jack
Title: Re: BLONG or BLANC of Portarlington
Post by: Jack2227 on Wednesday 09 February 11 20:22 GMT (UK)
Eng/Wales census;
(all born Ireland)

1911 census information removed

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,355484.0.html

1901;
Blong Peter; 44, head, General lab
52, Dock st-Widnes

Blong Patrick; 11, son
28, Waterworks st Boole Derby

Blong Annie; 30, wife
28, Waterworks........

Blong Thomas; 30, head, Tanners lab
28 Waterworks...........

Blong Margaret; 34, wife
80, Dock st Widnes

Blong Michael; 35, head, Chemical lab
80, Dock st
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1891;
Blong Peter; 36, head, Alkali lab.
58 Dock st Widnes

Blong Margaret; 26, wife
84, Terrace rd Widnes

Blong Michael; 26, head, Alkali lab
84, Terrace rd Widnes
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1881;
Blong John; 28, head, Discharger Chemicals
2 Gerrard st Widnes

Blong Maria; 26, wife
2 Gerrard.........

Blong Christopher; 24, lodger, Chemical lab
2 Gerrard.......

Blong Peter; 24, head, Alkali lab
8 Lancs Widnes

Blong Mary; 26, wife
8 Lancs Widnes
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1861;
Blong James; 46, head, Chelsea OAP & Militia Sergeant
Military Depot
St Mary Suffolk
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1851;
Blong Thomas; 21, lodger, Soldiers son   Castlebar Mayo
Chapelry St Mary
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1841;
Blong Jean; 20
Leeds Boar lane


Blong Mary; 15, juvenile
Bent st Manchester

Blong Julia; 50
Bent st Manchester
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Jack

Title: Re: BLONG or BLANC of Portarlington
Post by: Jack2227 on Wednesday 09 February 11 20:46 GMT (UK)
1911 Census Information Removed

1901;
Blanc William; 18, Soldiers son (private) Portarlington
Essex
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1871;
Blanc Robert; 27, lodger
London Middlesex

Blanc Anne; 22, servant
Lancs Liverpool
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Jack
Title: Re: BLONG or BLANC of Portarlington
Post by: Jack2227 on Saturday 12 March 11 15:02 GMT (UK)
Griffiths Valuation gives the surname Blong surname to
Margaret-Richard-Abraham-William-George-Jane in
Lea-Ballymorris
Lea-Coolterry.
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Jack
Title: Re: BLONG or BLANC of Portarlington
Post by: Jack2227 on Wednesday 06 July 11 20:58 BST (UK)
Headstones in Mountmellick RC;

Samuel James Blanc; Dunlaoghaire Dublin
10/3/2001
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Richard (Dick) Blanc; Emmet St Mountmellick
20/6/1980
wife-Eileen; 14/5/1992
son-Jim; 11/5/2008 (53)
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Jack
Title: Re: BLONG or BLANC of Portarlington
Post by: Jack2227 on Monday 30 January 12 12:18 GMT (UK)
Blanc/Leblanc Baptisims; Portarlington

Marie Leblanc; 1700

Pierre Blanc; 1709
Pierre Blanc; 1731

Pierre Leblanc; 1696
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Jack
Title: Re: BLONG or BLANC of Portarlington
Post by: corisande on Monday 30 January 12 12:24 GMT (UK)
The big problem at Portarlington is that the Baptism Registers are missing from 1732 to 1805, which means that 2 generations are missing.

So although one can draw up trees for pre 1732, it is virtually impossible to tie these to post 1805 trees
Title: Re: BLONG or BLANC of Portarlington
Post by: dask on Tuesday 07 February 12 14:34 GMT (UK)
Hi, I am new to this thread. My great grandmother was Ellen Blanc born 1867 in the district of Mountmellick (Kilbride). Her father was Henry Blanc (farmer) and her mother was Elizabeth Doyle. From what I can gather Henry Blanc is deceased by the 1901 census. Ellen is working for George Richards Graham a Clerk in Holy Orders at Ballybrittas, Queen's County. Ellen's surname is given as Blane on the website of the census but close examination of the actual record reads as Blanc. I am unable to locate any information on Henry and Elizabeth as regards their marriage etc. Ellen Blanc married William Johnston possibly in 1905/06 but by the 1911 census they have two children the youngest of which is my grandmother. They are again working for the CoI Clergy, a Canon Charles Irvine Graham, but this time in Celbridge, Co. Kildare. I think the two Arthur Blanc's in the 1901 census are relations of Ellen's. My uncle (since deceased) was named for the youngest one according to my mother. Arthur Blanc died 1939 and is buried at St. Paul's in Portarlington. There are furher Blane's (Blanc's) at Kilbride who may be Ellen's mother and sisters. Any help greatly appreciated.

dask