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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Perthshire => Topic started by: monks13 on Tuesday 21 April 09 21:42 BST (UK)
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As a lot of people on this forum live abroad, i thought i could be of some assistance in tracking down headstones in Kilmadock Parish (Doune,Deanston area) and get some pictures to send .
There are 3 main graveyards in the Parish, Old Kilmadock,New Kilmadock and 1 at the rear of the Old church of Scotland in Doune itself.
If this can be of help to anyone contact me on this post or by personnel
message.
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Hi Monks09,
Thank you for your kind offer to look up and take pictures of headstones.
My 3rd great grand uncle was:-
Rev Thomas Hislop minister of Doune Fore Church Bridge of Teith.
Born 7th June 1790 Kirk of Shotts Lanark Died 9th Sept 1879 Bridge of Teith Doune.
Thomas’s wife:-
Charlotte Hislop nee Murdock
Born 1787 Kilmadock Died 10th March 1858 Bridge of Teith
Also my 4th great grandfather
Rev Ebenezer Hislop born 2nd Aug 1745 Peebles Peeblesshire died 22June 1831 Bridge of Teith..
I would be grateful for any information.
Thanking you
Mary
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Hi Mary.
Will get back to you as soon as i can with any pic's etc.
I don't know if you know that the church no longer stands (apart from a couple of walls) but the house is still there.
Kenny
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Hi Kenny,
I know you offered to take photo's of headstones, but can I please have a photo of the house?
Mary
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Hello Kenny,
If you ever come across any Kennedys in your travels, any pictures or details would be great.
Basically any Kennedy who appeared at Kilmadock/Doune between 1841 and 1901 was descended from (or married to a descendant of) my 5 x great grandfather John Kennedy.
Regards,
Nel
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See what i can do Nell.
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Hi Mary.
I will try and get you a photo of the house tomorrow (hopefully).
Have found out that they are buried at Old Kilmadock, but unfortunatly there is no visible Headstone.
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Hi Kenny - How are you ;D
Don't know if we have searched for some of these before, short term memory loss ::)
Colin Ferguson 1891 Doune.
Jane Ferguson 1891 Deanstone.
John Ferguson 1870 Kincardine by Doune (are these included at Kilmadock ?)
Elizabeth Galbraith 1909 Doune.
Elizabeth McAlpine 1870 Kilmadock.
Jane McGregor 1870 Kincardine.
Janet McGregor 1916 Kilmadock.
James McKay 1916 Kincardine by Doune.
Margaret Stewart 1876 Kilmadock.
Margaret Stewart 1941 Kilmadock.
Robert Stewart 1898 Kilmadock.
All help appreciated.
By the way have you heard from Gordon Roberts yet re the Lauder's.
Regards..Patvp
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Sorry Kenny - Not a good start to the day..
Colin Ferguson died 1891 and his wife Elizabeth Galbraith died 1909.
John Stewart died 1876 and his wife Ann Dewar.
Jane McGregor 1870 was married to John Ferguson she died 1870 Kincardine.
May get it right eventually..and of course, Maggie Stewart/Connelly/King.
And any Stewarts..
Pat
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Haven't heard from Gordon, Pat.
Kenny
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Hi Mary.
Hopefully i will get your picture of the house at Bridge of Teith soon.
Was talking to a friend the other day who reminded me that there was a fall out within the church and a few of the congregation moved to the Auldlicht church in Doune including the Rev Hislop.
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Hey Kenny is that my brother you are referring to? I saw him yesterday and he didnt mention that he had heard from you. What is it you want to ask him?
Nel - I am v interested in what you say about the Kennedys. My ggg grandmother was Catherine Kennedy. Her father was John Kennedy.
I havent been able to find much info on the family - she married Henry Donaldson at Port of Menteith in 1832. It says "Henry Donaldson parishioner son of Donaldson Dunfermline and Catherine Kennedy daughter of John Kennedy of Carnock "
In 1841 the couple are living at Shuttle Street Kincardine. They don't appear on later censuses but some of their children do - living with various other families in Kincardine and Kilmadock.
A bit of a mystery! Is this connected to your family do you think?
Val
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Hi Val.
Is it the Gordon Pat and i are refering to that you mean ?
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Yes Gordon is my older brother - used to have bikes etc - daresay you know him ..... curly?
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Yeah i know Curly.
But this Gordon is related to me in some way and from what i can make out lives in france.
I remember Curly used to live in Cambuskenneth .can you remember what his address was there?
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Hi Kenny - His name is Gordon Roberts and yes he lives in France, he has been away for a while but should be home about now.
He is descended from David Lauder 1789-1875 and Margaret Anderson 1793-1861, their son William Lauder 1818-1850 married Janet McKay 1820 who was the daughter of Duncan mcKay and Janet McLarin (no dates for these) . the son of William and Janet was Duncan a Lauder 1855-1892 married Margaret McPherson 1860-1913, and it was their daughter Elizabeth Lauder that came to Australia in 1913 her husband was John Albion Gordon and they settled eventually in Queensland.
This is from the potted history he sent me Kenny. Will p.m. you his e.mail adds later.
Regards Pat
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yeah but he is in Buchlyvie now - frequents the Rob Roy!
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Is this Gordon a relation of yours Val ?
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My ggg grandfather, George Bryce b. 1782 - d. 1848 and his father, John Bryce b. 1738 - d. 1797 are said to have been buried at Kilmadock Parish in the middle of Doune. Would you possibly have pictures of their graves? Some of the family members had seen the gravesites when they were there around 1905. Are George's wife, Margaret Forbes b. 1787 - d. 1831, or John's wife, Christina Graham b. 1747/48 - d. before 1826 buried there also?
George's children, though, were baptized at the church at the Bridge of Teith. Is it the church at the Bridge of Teith that you said is no longer there?
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Hi ab.
Yes it is the Teith church that is no longer there.
If it is the graveyard in the village you mean for the burials then i can check it out.
Unfortunatly a lot of the stones have dissapeared or been damaged over the years but i do believe there is a book with details of burials .
Will try my best for you.
Kenny
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Managed to get a look at the Inscriptions book today.
John Bryce 29.3.1797 age 59. stone erected by son George.
George Bryce Smith(I take it this means his job,i.e Blacksmith) 29.5.1848 age 65.
Wife Margret Forbes 24.6.1831 age 43.
daughter Janet 27.10.1836 age 27.
We are just back from holiday in Spain, and i haven't unpacked my camera yet.
Once i do i will see if the stones are still there as the graveyard is about 200yards from my house.
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I seem to recall there are a bunch of Bryce stones at Norrieston in Kincardine Parish. Do you remember the Bryces at our school Kenny? I believe they are still living in the area.... Balir Drummond/Thornhill ...
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I may have posted this photo elsewhere but here it is anyway as it might be of some assistance. It was taken in Blairdrummond cemetery.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee209/38fergie/Roots%20Chat/HeadstoneFergusonCullenBryceHelen.jpg)
Cheers
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Hi Kenny - just doing a review.. ;D
Did we ever get around to checking burials for ..
Robert Stewart died 10 Jul 1898 Deanstone, and his wife Janet/Jean Ferguson died 19 Dec 1891 also at Deanstone.
Think we got waylaid somewhat.
Really interested to find out if Robert had a gravestone which may ...may give his place of birth and possibly his parents, of course they could be buried elsewhere.
Just found John McKay and his wife both died in Drymen Stirling but turned up buried in Port of Monteith..so you never know.
Also have lost my address book m'dear so no longer have your e.mail so if you want to send again would appreciate it.
Regards Pat vp
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I am looking for information on Janet Sommers, who married Thomas McArthur in Kilmadock Parish Dec 7, 1771. Name spelling may have been Symmers. This couple would be my somewhere-down-the-line great grandparents. Any assistance appreciated, as I am only in Scotland for a few more days.
Regards,
Pam Palmer
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hi
what info do you have so far?
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Hi Kenny - How are you ;D
Don't know if we have searched for some of these before, short term memory loss ::)
Colin Ferguson 1891 Doune.
Jane Ferguson 1891 Deanstone.
John Ferguson 1870 Kincardine by Doune (are these included at Kilmadock ?)
Elizabeth Galbraith 1909 Doune.
Elizabeth McAlpine 1870 Kilmadock.
Jane McGregor 1870 Kincardine.
Janet McGregor 1916 Kilmadock.
James McKay 1916 Kincardine by Doune.
Margaret Stewart 1876 Kilmadock.
Margaret Stewart 1941 Kilmadock.
Robert Stewart 1898 Kilmadock.
All help appreciated.
By the way have you heard from Gordon Roberts yet re the Lauder's.
Regards..Patvp
Hi Patvp
Elizabeth McAlpine (d. 21 Mar 1870, Burnside Cottages, Kilmadock) and Walter McAlpine (d. 21 Nov 1868, Burnside Cottages, Kilmadock) are my 3rd great grandparents! Hopefully a headstone still exists for them at the old Kilmadock churchyard?
Also, their son John (d. 1872, Kilmadock) may have been buried there too, plus some more of their children? Actually, pics of any McAlpine headstones may be useful (got so many McAlpine ancestors in the vicinity it is not funny... esp. Port of Menteith & Deanston / Kilmadock families!
From what I can see from Google Earth, the old Burnside Cottages just south of the old Kilmadock Church yard have been erased from the face of the earth. I now have these sites clearly marked in my Google Earth Places :D
However, I too would be greatly appreciative and much interested in seeing some photos of the old Burnside Cottages area and any pics of the old Kilmadock church ruins & McAlpine headstones if any.
Sadly, at my advancing age, limited finances and living in Wodonga, Victoria, Australia, I see little hope of ever visiting the wonderful places my ancestors lived in Bonnie Scotland. :'(
Oh well. A few piccies could cheer me up!
I have paid Scotland GRO for death certs for Walter McAlpine (1868), wife Elizabeth (1870), son William (1880) if anyone interested.
Nice to meet you !! ;)
Jeff
Wodonga
VIC
Australia
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As a lot of people on this forum live abroad, i thought i could be of some assistance in tracking down headstones in Kilmadock Parish (Doune,Deanston area) and get some pictures to send .
There are 3 main graveyards in the Parish, Old Kilmadock,New Kilmadock and 1 at the rear of the Old church of Scotland in Doune itself.
If this can be of help to anyone contact me on this post or by personnel
message.
Hi monks09!
Wow. What a kind offer. Where could I begin? ;D
See my last post to patvp1 which lists a couple of my ancestors whose headstone/grave might still be visible at the old Kilmadock church yard?
I also have a huge stack of McAlpine ancestors who lived (and many who presumably died although I can't find clearly identifiable IGI records) in and around the Port of Menteith, Gartmore, Deanston & Doune during the 1680-1920+ period.
ANY lists of McAlpine burials from Parish records you might be able to find in those areas would be FANTASTIC.
Needless to say, pics of any McAlpine headstones and of some countryside in those areas would be an absolute bonus, since as stated in my other post, my chances of ever making it back to the land where my Scots ancestors roamed is remote to say the least :( .
Cheers!
Jeff
Wodonga
Victoria
Australia
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Hi Val,
Re Thomas McArthur and Janet Sommers
I have the date of the marriage - 7 Dec 1771;
Thomas was living in Kilmadock, Janet in Kincardine so marriage registered in both parishes;
They had 2 sons, Robert, b 13 April 1777 and John, b18 Oct 1772.
Janet was born 15 Sept 1744.
Thanks for any assistance!
We will be travelling to Perth tomorrow or the next day, so will swing by Kilmadock!Regards
Pam
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Hi Jeff - Have Elizabeth McAlpine in my file and I know she is family some where, just can't put my finger on her as yet..tied up with the Fergusons I think..I must have her death cert somewhere as well otherwise would not have put it on my A***** file.
Like you ..am at that age... but am in Queensland, had my last visit back in 06 but did not have much chance to get to Scotland..I was lucky..did not come to Oz until 1957 and although lived in Yorkshire..every year would be back in Scotland with my mothers family.
Hopefully will get this sorted out and will be in touch later.
Regards Pat..
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Hi Jeff.
Will see what i can do about the headstones . There are still a few Mcalpines around Doune, Deanston etc but don't know if they are descendants or related to yours .
Kenny
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Hi Pat.
Same for your R Stewart, will try and see what i can get .
Haven't had much time last wee while with work and our schools are on summer hol's just now so trying to keep kids amused over the weekend when off work.
Kenny
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Hi Jeff - Boy did I get that wrong..not Fergusons at all.
My grandparents x3 were Isabel McAlpine 1779 and James Henderson 1775.
Grandparents x4 John McAlpine 1746 and Janet McFarlane 1750.
So Isabel and Elizabeth McFarlane were sisters ;D.
In a nutshell - Margaret Henderson 1817 was my g/g/grandmother, she had two illegitimate children one being my g/grandfather James McKay, she later married Daniel McLaren in 1852 !!
1851 census Margaret is with her father James Henderson, his brother in law John McAlpine c1796 born Port of Monteith and her two children the other being William Strang c1845.
All very confusing :o ;D
Regards Patvp
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Hi Pat.
Thanks for the heads up!
I've been busy connecting your data to my Beazley-Crisdale Family Tree at Ancestry ;)
I think it all means we are 5th cousins :) (at least that what my Legacy software tells me!) Isabel McAlpine (1779) is one of my many 3rd great grandaunts.
Elizabeth (b.1792) McAlpine's son William (b.1819) is my 2nd gt grandfather, his daughter Sophia Sinclair McAlpine (b. 1873) is my gt granny and her daughter Eliza 'Ella' Duncan (b.1899) is my grandmother on my fathers side.
Phew!
Cheers,
Jeff
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Well I'll be LOL. Have also had a quick look at your tree, you also have a Hall family ??? Have been trying to sort it out..according to my mother we did have Hall connections in Galashiels and Roxburgh..have not yet made a connection..interesting point tho'..have photo's of various people in Galashiels and i don't know who the hell they are..maye it will come out in the wash somewhere. Apologies from me as my A**** tree is a bit messy, my filing is hopeless, hope you are sorting it out. ;D
Regards Pat...will send a PM later with my e.mail adds if you want it.
Cold this morning in Qld cannot imagine what it is like in Vic :P
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Hi Pat.
OK with the e-mail addy.
I'll give you mine as a bonus. :)
It is a tad nippy in Wodonga. Snow showers in the alps and about 8C here now.... brrrr.... ;D
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Just to let you know folks that i haven't forgotten your requests for
pic's of Headstones etc.
Just been busy with other stuff and the weather hasn't been to good.
I will try my best this week to get some info for those of you waiting.
Kenny
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Hi Kenny, I'm new to this particular forum, and am researching the ancestral mob of a mate of mine down in NSW. I'd appreciate anything you have on the following who hailed from Kilmadock/Kincardine By Doune.
John Spittal m Christen Turner 1697
John Spittal b 1698 m Janet Thomas 1722
A quick shufty on IGI has shown several trillion Spittals in that neck o' the woods, but any info or photies would be welcome. ;)
Jim
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Hi Jim.
Will see what i can do .
Going by the dates it looks like it will be Old Kilmadock Cemetery which because of it's location is not maintained the same as the others so is
a bit overgrown so it may take a wee while to locate any headstones .
Kenny
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Hi Jeff
I believe my great great grandfather Walter McAlpine was the brother of Sophia Sinclair McAlpine. His only surviving son William Sinclair McAlpine, 1893 to 1938 (there was a younger son Malcolm Sinclair McAlpine who died aged one) was my great grandfather on my mother's side. I recall seeing the name Adam Duncan on a Glasgow family census, presumably a brother of your grandmother? Apologies for the lack of dates, I don't have all my family tree info directly to hand at the moment.
Regards
Claire
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Hi Jim.
Sorry can't find any Spittal burials in Kilmadock graveyards.
And apologies to others waiting, Weather has been that wet i haven't had a chance to get out have a search.
Kenny
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Thanks for your efforts Kenny, much appreciated.
PS. Rain? What's that? ;)
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Hello folks.
Eventually I got the time and the help of a Friend to have a look around New Kilmadock cemetery today.
Unfortunately we could not find any Headstones for anyone for the years you who asked are looking for.
This is not to say that your Ancestors are not buried there as there is a large area of the graveyard with burials but no headstones.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
If I get a chance tomorrow I will have a look through an Inscriptions book in our local Library and see if I can find out anymore.
Kenny
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Hi Kenny
I'm hoping you might also be able to help me please.
Ann and James McLAREN died in Deanston, Kilmadock. I presume they are buried in the area.
Ann (nee McEWEN) died 19 March 1867 and her husband
James McLAREN died 21 March 1855.
From James' death certificate (being 1855) he named all his children. There is one named Betsy (dec'd) who hasn't appeared in the census I have and I'm wondering if she died as a child and may be buried with her parents.
Any help will be greatly appreciated, but I do realize that you have had lots of requests, so no hurry, only when you have time.
Thanks
Lois
Western Australia
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Hi Lois.
Sorry for not replying before now but been a bit busy at work etc.
I will see what I can find out for you as soon as I can.
Regards Kenny
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Gordon is a relative of mine. I also live in Brisbane/ Where are you Val?
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Hi,
I've just come across your offer for Kilmadock/Kincardine by Doune look ups. I'm particularly interested in the McQueen family, in particular John McQueen who married Lilias Harvey on 16 July 1796. Their children were Alexander 1801, James 1799 and Lilias 1797. I would like to find out when John was born as I have two contenders at the moment and don't know which one to follow back. Obviously no rush for this but I would be grateful for any help.
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As a lot of people on this forum live abroad, i thought i could be of some assistance in tracking down headstones in Kilmadock Parish (Doune,Deanston area) and get some pictures to send .
There are 3 main graveyards in the Parish, Old Kilmadock,New Kilmadock and 1 at the rear of the Old church of Scotland in Doune itself.
If this can be of help to anyone contact me on this post or by personnel
message.
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Dear monks09
Thank you for your kind offer of help. Do you know if there is a David McNiven buried in one of the kirkyards at Kilmadock? David is thought to have been born about 1775 and to have been a farmer at Rowe Farm, Kilmadock. He probably died sometime between 1828 when his last daughter was born and 1841 when he is missing from the census. His wife Isabella Cameron died in 1857, so they may be buried together.
What's the difference between Kilmadock and Doune?
I would be grateful for any help that you can offer.
donfox21
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I am new at this so if I 'm repeating please understand. My relative
are buried in the old cemetery in kilmadock, I think it is called the old Doune cemetery.My grandmother Jane MacDonald and my aunt Catherine are there, they may be together as Catherine died as a child 5-8yrs. old My gran died Jan.19,1951. I also have relatives in the newer Doune cemetery with family names Mitchell and McAlpine. The Mitchells are Jock, Polly,Hugh, and more. I wonder if there is a parish record site I could search on line as I live in Ontario Canada. thanks
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Shebeat...An email to the Stirling cemeteries department might be of assistance to you.
I have, in the past, found them to be very helpful.
Cheers.
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thanks, I am also doing my grandfathers side and he was from Skye last name MacDonald and i have had great luck by doing an ''email" blitz" as I call it. I will share ideas if anyone needs
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I was hoping to reach monks09 if they were around
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Hi all.
Sorry for not getting back sooner but with the weather we have been having lately I have been busy at work ( I drive a Snowplough).
I will try and get something done once the better weather comes.
Donfox21 Doune is in the Parish of Kilmadock.
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Visited Doune castle with some canadian cousins the other day Monkey and we could hardly get IN for all the snow! ;)
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Hi Val. Terry Jones is trying to get the surviving Python team back to the castle for the anniversary of the Holy Grail. Try getting in then :)
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when is the anniversary? I noticed there was a lot of Monty Python stuff in the gift shop! I took some canadian cousins round - they loved it!
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I think it will be September.
They started a Monty Python day a few years back and it was so popular that Historic Scotland made it a ticket only event, which didn't go down to well with some of the locals who were extras in the movie etc.
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As a lot of people on this forum live abroad, i thought i could be of some assistance in tracking down headstones in Kilmadock Parish (Doune,Deanston area) and get some pictures to send .
There are 3 main graveyards in the Parish, Old Kilmadock,New Kilmadock and 1 at the rear of the Old church of Scotland in Doune itself.
If this can be of help to anyone contact me on this post or by personnel
message.
Hello, I'm in New Zealand and trying to track down the Perthshire parish cemetery where my ancestors Peter Hutton and his wife Janet Hutton (nee Stewart) are buried. I saw this hugely kind offer of Monks09 to check names in the Kilmadock parish for those of us overseas and would like to ask if anyone knows of the Auchterarder parish. My gg grandfather Peter Hutton was born 30 March 1804 in Aucterarder, christened on 8 April 1804 and died 16 Dec 1878 in Auchterarder.
As well as trying to find where they are buried, I'm trying to find the parish records for Peter and Janet Hutton's whole family, most particularly the exact birth dates of his children. Their children Peter, James and Mary (my g grandmother) came out to NZ in the 1860's I think. We are trying to track down Jame's exact birthdate as he's buried here without a headstone (he never married) and I think he was born in 1842 but would like to confirm this to make sure the headstone my mother wants to put up for him is correct.
I would be most grateful if anyone could help me in anyway. Many thanks Rachel
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Hi Rachel
see below courtesy of freecen
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
BULLIONS Alex M 30 Female Servant Perth
BULLIONS Jean F 25 Perth
BULLIONS Helen F 20 Perth
HUTTON Peter M 25 Ag Lab Outside Census County (1841)
MACGREGOR Peter M 30 Ag Lab Perth
PULLAR Daniel M 14 Ag Lab Perth
HAGART Chaterine F 10 Perth
Yours Aye
BruceL
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Hi Rachel
Please ignore my last post please see below
Piece: SCT1841/568 Place: Kilbarchan -Renfrewshire Enumeration District: 6
Civil Parish: Kilbarchan Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 7 Page: 4
Address: Linwood Village
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Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HUTTON Peter M 40 Cotton Hand Loom Weaver Outside Census County (1841)
HUTTON Janet F 40 Outside Census County (1841)
HUTTON Margaret F 18 Cotton Carder Outside Census County (1841)
HUTTON Nicholas F 16 Cotton Carder Outside Census County (1841) Enumerated as female
HUTTON Agness F 13 Cotton Carder Outside Census County (1841)
again all courtesy of freecen 1841 census
Yours Aye
BruceL
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Many thanks Bleckie for this - unfortunately these Hutton's aren't my ancestors. My Peter Hutton was a letter carrier or postman and railway messenger. His and Janet's children's names were -
Peter: born: abt 1836 - Auchterarder
Elizabeth: b: abt 1838/9 - Auchterarder
William: b:1840/1 - Forgandenny, Perth
James: b:abt 1842- Auchterarder
Mary : b: 1845-Auchterarder
Margaret:b: 1849/50-Auchterarder
I got all this info off a family tree that's beens done on "The Doigs of Leven, Fife,Scotland. I've been trying to contact the person who did that family tree - but haven't had any luck yet.
What I was wondering here was if anyone knew anything about the Auchterarder parish and burial ground. I would love to find out exactly where Peter senior (born 1804 and died 1878 in Auchterarder) and Janet Hutton are buried. And also see if it's possible to confirm their son James Hutton's exact birthdate through parish records.
But many thanks bleckie for trying to help - very much appreciated!
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Hi rachelnz
In the 1851 census available from Scotlands people there are 2 Peter Huttons aged between 13 and 16 years old in Scotland.
1 is 15 years old living in Kippen Stirlingshire 484/00 001/00 01
1 is 16 years old and living in KIRKCUDBRIGHT/KIRKCUDBRIGHT 871/00 001/00 017
Yours Aye
BruceL
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lokking for burial details and any inscriptions for robertsons buried in Doune /deanston and old kilmadock
Specifically catherine robertson d 28/3/1855 daughter of
thomas robertson father d 1859 in kilmadock
jean robertson ms turnbull mother f 1867 kilmadock
other daughters
ann and mary robertson died 1857 kilmadock.
other children were john born 1831 death unknown
and peter who imigrated to austriala in 1852.
any info would be much appreciated
colin
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I will see what I can do Colin. Going away for a couple of days so will see what I can find out when I get back.
Kenny
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Thanks Much appreciated
Colin
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Hello Monks09,
Some of my ancestors are likely buried in the old Kilmadock cemetery (this one: http://doig.net/Kilmadock_Kirkyard.html). I plan on visiting Stirling later this summer and thought it would be neat to visit the place. I was having trouble finding it, and was wondering if you could help. Is this it here, right at the centre of the map (link goes to google maps, but I used a link shortener; otherwise the long link messes up the entire page):
http://bit.ly/9sJ0iG
If so, I was wondering how I can get there. I would be taking a bus, and there is a bus station directly north of the cemetery on A84. Is it fairly obvious how to get from the A84 to the cemetery?
Thank you so much for your help!
Brandon
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Hi Brandon.
iF YOU LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU ARE COMING i could maybe meet you in Doune and take you out myself.
Kenny
Excuse the upper case text . The button on my keyboard sticks sometimes. 8)
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Hi Kenny,
That would be really great! Thank you for the offer. I'll PM you my email address.
Brandon
ps -Thanks for pointing out the upper-case text! At first I though you might be yelling at me!!
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To follow on from Monks kind offer, if you do not have your own transport I could give you a drive from Stirling to your meeting in Doune.
Cheers.
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I have some parish register copies from 1810-1815, parish of Kilmadock, that list my family's residence as "Perton" or "Purton"? I have searched around but thought I could ask for some help...any suggestions. I have scans of these images, I can post if necessary.
Thanks,
Julius
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Hello.
It could be PARTON which is a cottage just outside Doune on the road into Clarkton Farm, If you have google earth etc follow the A84 out of Doune heading for Callander first farm road on left as you leave the village the cottage lies about half way down.
The small wooded areas at the back of the cottage is known as the Parton strip.
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Hi monks09
A question if I may, which graveyard/s are most likely to hold remains/stones dating from the first half of the 1700's?
My task is not easy as the name I am looking for is Stewart though likely spelt Steuart as some records imply at that time. Unfortunately the parish records covering my missing link Stewart are not in existance for the years covering the birth of my John who then appears as Shoemaker in Thornhill marrying Isobel Dog (Doig) daught of Walter Dog. John's father was most likely named James.
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You'll be looking at Old Kilmadock about a mile from doune on the banks of the Teith.
Some of the oldest graves there are DOG/DOIG.
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Surprise surprise!! :P My John Stewart married Isobel Dog (b 1743) daughter of Walter and Mgt Cadden ;)
It's John's parents I am interested in at present as his birth is uncertain and of course missing OPR for Kilmadock at the important time.
I'm not too far away! :D
Thanks for that!
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Hi Monks09
i wondered if you can give me any help with the Duncanson family Graves
GGG Grandparents
Thomas Duncanson d.19 Nov 1856 aged 80 certificate states Doune Church Yard
Wife Helen Duncanson (nee Graham) Between 1856-1874
GG Grandparents
Elizabeth Duncanson d. 13 Sep 1855 aged 31 Cert. Doune Church Yard
William Duncanson d28 Mar 1856 aged 7 months " " " "
Thomas Duncan D 04 May 1874 aged 58 place of death Doune
Thank you for any help you may be able to give me
Ian
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Hello monks09
Any trace of Robertson Burials 1850.s
Colin
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Hi Colin
Taken from the South Perthshire MI book.
Kilmadock
Peter Robertson & Cath Stewart, craighead, 2da Margt 14.4.1833 7y
Peter Robertson fr d Craighead 2.4.1841, 1s Thos fr Craighead d 8.8.1859 30 & his bro(twin) Jas fr Craighead d 5.4.1863
John Robertson of Doune Castle by wid Eliz Gibson 22.11.1789
20.5.1867, imo s Jas b Doune Castle 2[5].3.1825 d Edinburgh 9.11.1856
Yours Aye
BruceL
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thanks blekie
colin
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Hi,
Thanks for the offer to help with Kilmadock. My BURGESS ancestors married there in 1824 and had lots of children, some of whom were baptised in the Bridge of Teith Church.
Robert BURGESS (1795@Dunipace - 1860 in U.S.) married Janet METHVEN (1800@Kilmadock -1875 in U.S.) She was born in the parish, but I haven't located her christening record or parents. The details I have on her are from an old Bible. Children: Alexander (1825-1846), George (1827-1846, John (1828-1829, Jane (1830-1914 in U.S.) John (1830-?), Thomas (1832-1916 in U.S.), Mary (1834-1912 in U.S.), Margaret (1836-1863 in U.S.), Robert (1842-1910 in U.S.) I found all of the children and the father in the OPR, but can't find the mom.
Robert had a first wife, who is probably buried at St. Ninian's, which is where I found the family in the 1841 census.
Any help would be most appreciated.
Thanks, Sally
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hmmm bit of a long shot here but I have a Mary Stewart from Kilmadock in my wife's family tree. Was married to a William Downie, also of Kilmadock (both born about 1790).
Their son Robert Downie was born in 1822ish in Kilmadock and was a farmer at Easter Lundie Farm. I saw some stewarts mentioned earlier on... anyone know of any connection they may have with my Mary Stewart? Not been able to tace her parents as yet, or an exact d.o.b ???
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As per my previous post... does anyone know if there is a burial record available online for Kilmadock & Doune? Am trying to locate William Downie and Mary Stewart who married in 1817. I cannot find them on the 1841 census so would like to rule out death before exploring other countries! I have their son, Robert, in Gargunnock later on.
Cheers! ;D
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Sorry Folks I have been kind of quiet latlely. My Father in Law was ill so was spending most weekends driving up to Aberdeen.
Unfortunatly he passed away just before Christmas.
I will get back on the cases as soon as possible.
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Hi Carrumba
I just spoke to you on the Stewart board!
I don't think you will find any burial info online other than the post 1855 statutory death registrations you can find on Scotlandspeople.
Have you tried looking for them on the 1841 census on Scotlandspeople? Often the transcriptions on Ancestry are so bad you can't find what you are looking for due to transcription errors- SP is better I think.
Val
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Val! Hello! Good to meet you again!
Yes, I plan to man an assault on tracking down the Stewarts this weekend if possible by trawling through IGI's and census details. Then onto potential passenger lists and emmigration. They seem like quite a slippery pair unfortuantely. I have managed to locate Williams' grandson (Robert Downie) in Gargunnock graveyard. The Farm, Knock O' Ronald was in Downie hands for a few decades and one of the crags with a waterfall at Gargunnock is called "Downies' Loup" where "a Downie" supposedly showed his horse riding prowess by leaping it twice before dying on the third attempt - although probably the smaller waterfall a bit further up the hill according to a local historian there.
So i know they have a heavy presence in the Gargunnock area and prior to that I believe William's son, also called Robert, ran Hillhead Farm.
I'll let you know if I find anything over the weekend but hadn't tried graveyards and headstones before. :D
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Carrumba.
Have a gravestone in Doune churchyard William and Mary Downie son William 15.61810 - 8.11.1811.
Kenny
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Thanks Kenny for your help in the homeland. I am a descendant of the Dogs of Menteith in the Old Kilmadock Graveyard with my burials at http://www.doig.net/Kilmadock_Kirkyard.html. There is a link at the top for about 25,000 names in Kilmadock, Kincardine, and Port of Menteith parishes.
For those who were looking for the ancestors of Mary Stewart who married William Downie I have them at http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=doigk&id=I39434. Any additions or corrections welcome.
Kenny, what is your ancestry into the Kilmadock area? Thanks.
Yield not to adversity,
Ken Doig, Bass Lake, California www.doig.net
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We are relative new comers to Kilmadock Ken.
My grt grandfather came here sometime around 1880? to work on one of the local estates
and we have been in the parish since.
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Thanks you very much for your reply, Kenny... absolutely excellent. And Ken Doig.... thank you so much for the entry regarding Mary Stewart! Superb! Has cracked that particular roadblock for me!
Now... their daughter Mary Downie married an Alexander Stewart who was descended from the Stewarts of Edinample (and a line of the Stewarts of Atholl.. i think... some fancy dan line anyway) in Balquhidder....so all roads leads to Balquhidder byt the looks of things!
All help much appreciated! ;D
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Oh... and have found an entry for the marriage of John Stewart and Mary Reid in Balquhidder.
Married 17 Jan 1784
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carrumba - Ken has the Edinample link on his site (Alexander)
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Hi Jeff,
Just wondering if you are the same Jeff who has put together the family tree of the Garlicks .
Clarence Cochrane was my great grandafther and i looking for any information you have please.
cheers
Clinton Cochrane
Berwick Vic
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Hi Monks09,
I hope your generous offer still stands! I live in Australia and believe my relatives were living in Kilmadock in the mid 1800s. I was wondering if the grave of Isabella McGregor is there, she probably died in 1851 or 1852. Her son was John McGregor. I was hoping that her grave might reveal some more information to help me further trace back my family history.
Thanks!
P.S. I like your outfit :)
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I will see what I can find. If it's mid 1800 it maybe New Kilmadock Cemetry or the Old Church graveyard, had a look in the Old Kilmadock burials but no Isabella.
The outfit is one of the costumes from Monty Python and The Holy Grail which they filmed a lot of here at Doune Castle. Kenny
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Hmm, its possible she died a bit later but probably not much later as she was 72 in 1851. Its been a really difficult family for me to trace, if anything turns up i'd be thrilled. Thank you so much for helping! And I love Monty Python!!
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Death 1859 Kilmadock Mcgregor Isabella mothers name King other surname Hart
1851 Census Isabella Mcgregor living with son John and grand children Janet and Isabella.
Born Mountriall America
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macian, i've seen this one and I think its two different Isabella's. Because the one living with John and his family in the census was born in Mountraill like you said (which I suspect is Montreal Canada), but the Isabella that's mother's name was King was actually in the Balquhidder birth records. So I think they are two Isabella's born and dying around the same time, one born in Balquhidder and one born in Canada. Thanks anyway!
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hi monk,
was wondering if you would know if there was a grave in kilmadock for a james stewart b 1869 at east murdieston in doune,d 1877,his parents robert stewart 1849-1934,janet mcgregor 1848-1916, and a sister christina stewart 1889-1891 are buried in doune,i have been up several times,my parents and g/parents are buried there ,but so far no james,if you could shed any light on this i would really appreciate it,
thanks mary
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Hi!
I was wondering if there was anything for a John Forbes, born abt 1791 in Kilmadock. Lived at Cauldhame Farm. His children married various Carlyles, McDearmids, Peeks and Sturrocks. I think he had died by the 1871 census. I don't know who his parents were definitely, but they MAY have been John Forbes born before 1764 and Katherine Stewart b abt 1765. I have the wife of John Forbes (b abt 1791) as being Margaret Buchanan, b abt 1812 in Callender. It looks like once John died, his son (also called John) took over the running of the farm.
Any help would be much appreciated.
My John Forbes was my great great grandfather.
Pat
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Hi Kenny,
On a trip to Scotland in 1999 - I wandered the parish and New Kilmadock cemeteries for my ancestors' grave sites. While I found a few descendants that were cousins, I didn't find the ones I was looking for and suspect they're in the Old Kilmadock graveyard. Unfortunately, between time constraints and rain - we didn't visit the Old Kilmadock graveyard.
Next time you wander out there - would you mind looking for:
Henry Drummond MacEwan b. 1799 d. 1873
Henry's wife: Elizabeth Duncanson b. 1799
Henry's parents:
Thomas MacEwan b. 1777
Jean Wilson b. 1780
Thomas' parents:
Thomas MacEwan b. 1739
Catharine Moir
Elizabeth Duncanson's parents:
Peter Duncanson b. 1764
Agnes Ambercrombie b. 1760
Peter's parents:
Robert Duncanson b. 1735
Kathrine King b. 1737
Robert's parents:
John Duncanson b. about 1700
Janet MacEwan b. about 1700
Or any MacEwan, Duncanson, King or Ambercrombie gravestone?
I have a cousin who is taking a trip to Scotland in September - she might visit Doune and Deanston. If she does and is interested in seeing the old grave yard - would you mind taking her out there?
Kenny - thank you for your aid - I appreciate it!
Debbie
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Hi Kenny,
Thank you for the PM - it looks like I have to post a few times to be able to reply. So post #2.
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Is there a website to search a list of burials in Kilmadock Parish/near Doune from early to mid 1800s?
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hi monk,
was wondering if you would know if there was a grave in kilmadock for a james stewart b 1869 at east murdieston in doune,d 1877,his parents robert stewart 1849-1934,janet mcgregor 1848-1916, and a sister christina stewart 1889-1891 are buried in doune,i have been up several times,my parents and g/parents are buried there ,but so far no james,if you could shed any light on this i would really appreciate it,
thanks mary
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Hi Marys - Wondered if you have had any more info re James Stewart 1869 not sure of date of death, another James born 1882. I have not been able to find burial places either for Robert Stewart 1849-1934 or Janet McGregor 1848-1916, nor can I find a birth for Christina 1889-1891 ?? I know that Janet McGregor died at Doune Mill Cottage, Kilmadock but that was as far as I got. My interest is Peter McGregor Stewart 1873 who married my g/g/aunt Janet Ann Stewart in 1896, her parents were Robert Stewart 1827-1898 and Jean Ferguson 1830.
Will have a fiddle around with SP and see if I can find anything else.
Am away from home at the moment so do not have access to my written records ???
Regards patvp
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hi pat,
sorry i haven't got back to you sooner,december is a total christmas month for me,i'll have a wee look thru my records nxt week,when hubby's on back shift and see what i can find for you,although i do know that christina,her father robert stewart and her mother janet mcgregor are buried [in the same grave]at kilmadock cemetary in doune.robert and janet were my gt/grandparents,i only found this out recently when i found a 3rd cousin....my interest is duncan stewart
take care
mary
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Hello Monks09
Hoping your offer still stands for looking up burials and photographing the headstones.
Have just started researching my husband's Scottish Roots which are through his Grandmother, a McFarlane.
I have traced her Grandparents to Kincardine. They were
Alexander Mcfarlane born 1805 Balquidder died 11/06/1879 at Wood Lane Kincardine
Catherine Mcfarlane (McNie) born 1809 Kincardine died 28/01/1885 at Doune Kilmadock
Alexander's siblings were Duncan born 1793 Balquidder
Donald born 1795 Balquidder
Robert born 1797 Balquidder
Margaret born 1799 Balquidder
John born 1803 Balquidder
In the 1814 Drummond Moss census Alexander,his parents and siblings were living in Kirk Lane Kincardine Robert married Jean Dickson in 1829 in Kincardine
Not sure what happened to Alexander's other s
Her GGrandparents were
John McFarlane born 1758 Balquidder died 1841 or after
Jannet Mcfarlane (Carmichael) born 1767 died 1841 or after
I think John and Jannet died and were buried in Kilmadock as I found them on the 1841 census living in Kirk Lane but could not find them on the 1851 census.
Hoping you will be able to locate any of the above.
Many Thanks
Firthy
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Hello Monks09
Thanks for your generous offer. I am in Maitland NSW Australia (near Newcastle) and I have ancestors named Thomson buried in Kilmadock Churchyard.
Elizabeth Thomson died 21 Jan 1860 and her death registration states she was buried in the Churchyard of Kilmadock. At the time of her death she was living at Ochtertyre, Doune and the informant was James Thomson who also lived at Ochtertyre - I think he was a gardener there.
Previously Elizabeth had lived at Scribetree in Doune with her father John Thomson. I think John died between 1841 and 1851 as he was missing from them 1851 census but was on the 1841 - aged 90. So I think he is buried there as well.
Also seeking burials of Catherine (Katherine) Thomson nee Bowie who was John Thomson's wife.
If you are able to assist I will be most grateful.
:)
Kind regards
JulieQ
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Hi there, I am looking for McAlpine graves in Kilmadock please.
I have found Walter and Elizabeth McAlpine married in Port of Menteith in 1814 and it looks like they moved to Kilmadock with their family at some point.
their children were: John b.1815 Janet b.1817 Robert b.1824 Walter b.1826 George b.1829 James b.1831 David b.1834 - there were likely a few in between who did not survive.
Elizabeth died in Kilmadock in 1870 age 77 years.
I found 2 other deaths for Elizabeth Scobie McAlpine age 2 (1863) and Elizabeth McAlpine age 14 (1878) who also died at Kilmadock.
It would be great to know if there are any surviving stones.
My husband is a McAlpine and his link is through his grandfather Robert McAlpine who's parents were Walter McAlpine & Isabella Bain who were married in Kilmadock June 1878. Walters father was Robert, son of Walter and Elizabeth. (I hope I've got that right!)
Would love to hear from anyone with a connection as just started this tree. Thanks :)
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Hi Elmca - Looks like we may have a connection here ;D
Elizabeth McAlpine born 1792 Parents Willian McAlpine and Isabel McFarlane.
My connection is through Isabel (1779) who was Elizabeth's elder sister, she married James Henderson, and was my g/mother x3.
Back to Elizabeth - She died at Burnside Cottage Kilmadock 21 Mar 1870. GRO362/00 0018 Widow of Walter, Informant was her son John.
But like you am scratching to find where any of the McAlpine's are buried ???
As a matter of interest try googling "The Dogs of Menteith"home page, interesting reading :D try clicking on to the McAlpine name as there is quite a lot of info.
If you like will PM you with my e.mail adds.
All the best Patvp
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Hi All
Monks hasn't been on line for approx last 6 month's
Yours Aye
BruceL
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Hi Monks09
If you kind offer is still open I am looking for the burial of my Grt Grand aunt Mary Allan nee Welsh. She died 26/02/1917 in Kilmadock parish. I am also tryng to find her husband George whose death I cannot find. I am hopingif they have a grave then they are there together. Also in the grave may be their infant son Lessel Allan died 1894
Thank you
Higgsy
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Hello, is Monks09 still on this site?
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Hi shebeat,
He hasn't been active for 2 years but an email notification has been sent to him when your reply was made. Hopefully, he is still using that email address.
Tom
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Hi All
Link below for burials in Perth
Anyone wishing to have an ancestral search carried out should telephone Burial Enquiries on 01738 446865 or e-mail CommunityGreenspace@pkc.gov.uk
Yours Aye
BruceL
http://www.pkc.gov.uk/article/2850/Burial-Grounds-and-Registers
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Hello all.
Sorry i have not been on for a while, family work etc, just didn't seem to get any time to get stuff done :).
As you will notice , i am now monks13 not 09.
Will try and catch up with previous requests if still wanted.
Thank you
Kenny
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Hi again folks. Sorry for delay in getting back to people but due to weather etc Haven't had a chance to get any outside stuff done i.e cemetery walks done.
You will also notice i am now monks13 and not monks09.
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Hi, I am only new to this site but I have lines back to Robert Duncanson b 1735 and Katherine King b1737 and would like to add more leaves to my tree. My line comes to Australia in the 1860's.
Yours in history
Graham G R
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Wondering if you have the time for the ROY Family. Probably ALL ROY graves are my line. Thank you for your very kind offer!
Surname: ROY
William ROY 1689-unk (Wife: Margret JAMESON)
John ROY 1706-unk( Margaret MAIRTEN)
William ROY 1709-unk (Wife: Anna GLOAG)
William ROY 1741-after 1781 (Margaret LOGAN)
Robert ROY 1781-ca 1840 (Corporal)
Frances [Wife Maiden: Gentle] ROY, 1792-1858
1811 ca. Child: 1 Fanny ROY, (1809 ca. -1881)
1812 Child 2: baby girl ROY
1813 Child 3: William ROY, (1813-1821) age 7
1814 Child 4: Peter, ROY (1814-1873)
1817 Child 5: Mary ROY (ca. 1817-1855),
1819 Child 6: William ROY (1819-1873),
1821 Child 7: Isobell ROY (1821-unk.),
1825 Child 10: Isabel ROY (1825-unk.),
1828 Child 11: Helen ROY (1828-unk.),
1833 Child 13: Jean ROY (1833-unk)
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Sadly monks13 has not been online since Dec 2014
Hope all is well though.
Annie
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Thank you for the information.
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Hi Geniebuffroy,
Have you seen this link on Find-a-grave.com,
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01iuu/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/01iuu/), gives a lot of good info Robert Roy. Only 2 x Roy's listed as being buried in Kilmadock cemetery.
Tom
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Yes. Thank you. I did those.
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There is confusion with FindAGrave not delineating between Kilmadock cemetery and Old Kilmadock cemetery...
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Hello Patvp,
Been scrolling through Rootschat Perthshire pages and came across link - burials in Kilmadock Parish, and you have put up some names I am connected with
Robert Stewart and Jane Ferguson, buried in Kilmadock are my 2nd Great Grandparents and their daughter Margaret Stewart(Connolly/King) is the sister of my Great Grandmother Annie Stewart, married to John Glen. Margaret had a daughter called Isabella Dalgleish King born 1904 and Annie also had a daughter born 1904 called Isabella Dalgleish Glen. Isabella Glen is the younger sister to my Grandmother Euphemia Meldrum Glen - married a William McRae Houston
Can I ask if you have connections to these Stewarts, and if possible any photos of graves etc, will be greatly appreciated
Best wishes, Bill Houston
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Hello recently came across this part of Perth history, and have the following in my family tree
Colin Ferguson 1891 Doune.
Jane Ferguson 1891 Deanstone.
John Ferguson 1870 Kincardine by Doune
Elizabeth Galbraith 1909 Doune.
Elizabeth McAlpine 1870 Kilmadock.
Jane McGregor 1870 Kincardine.
Janet McGregor 1916 Kilmadock.
James McKay 1916 Kincardine by Doune.
Margaret Stewart 1876 Kilmadock.
Margaret Stewart 1941 Kilmadock.
Robert Stewart 1898 Kilmadock.
does anyone have connections to them
Bill Houston
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Hello, bit more information on some of these names
Robert Stewart and Jane Ferguson, buried in Kilmadock are my 2nd Great Grandparents and their daughter Margaret Stewart(Connolly/King) is the sister of my Great Grandmother Annie Stewart, married to John Glen. Margaret had a daughter called Isabella Dalgleish King born 1904 and Annie also had a daughter born 1904 called Isabella Dalgleish Glen. Isabella Glen is the younger sister to my Grandmother Euphemia Meldrum Glen - married a William McRae Houston
did see some of these names from patyp, but have not had a response, though I see most of the articles wee written 10 - 12 ears ago
best wishes to all
Bill Houston
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My last post was to state monks13 had not been online since Dec 2014
I see monks13 was last online Monday 17 January 22...
I haven't seen any replies to queries since the offer was put up 21 April 09 although they may have been done by PM?
Annie