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Title: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: DDJJake on Wednesday 22 April 09 09:09 BST (UK)
Hi,
If anyone is going to Dumfries Library, could they spare the time to look for a memorial inscription for Janet [Maxwell] Richardson of Hitae died 1857 registered in GRO record as Janet Maxwell and buried in Lochmaben Cemetery? She was widowed before the 1841 Census, and her husband was a John Richardson  of Hitae. ... either a John Richardson .... born in 1773 in Lochmaben to William Richardson and Jean Rae or John's cousin, another John Richardson, born Hitae in the 1780s to James Richardson and Jean Mundall.
The marriage of John Richardson and Janet Maxwell took place in Lochmaben Parish in 1803.
John Richardson b. 1773 is the prime 'suspect' as his and Janet Maxwell's 1st born son was a William in 1806.
This couple are my Great x 3 Grandparents.

Thanks to any willing searcher who can trace either, or both, memorial inscriptions of John Richardson and Janet Maxwell.

Aye,
DDJJAKE
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: kojak on Thursday 23 April 09 18:49 BST (UK)
Hi DDJJake,

I would have gladly offered to go to the old lochmaben cemetery, located behind the High Street and within the Town of Lochmaben itself, as opposed to the "new" cemetry which is located next to the golf course about 1 mile out side of Town - but, I now live in Wiltshire.

Hopefully one of our Dumfries based rootschatters can assist?

There may well be something at the Ewart re. the inscriptions or even locally in the Lockerbie Library, which also holds inscription records.

Good luck,

Kojak
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: DDJJake on Thursday 23 April 09 21:37 BST (UK)
Thanks for your encouragement Kojak.

I live in retirement in Cyprus and now find it more and more difficult to make the journey back to the old country; so any local help would be very, very welcome.
Aye,
DDJJAKE
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: akc on Thursday 23 April 09 21:53 BST (UK)
Hi, I have a copy of the Lochmaben Old Churchyard Memorial Inscriptions, there are lots of Richardsons at Hightae. In the Old Parochial Deaths there is a Jean Richardson dau of John/Janet Maxwell of Hightae died Oct 4 1817. it doesnt give her age though. There are 4 John Richardsons deaths from Hightae between 1767 - 1809

akc
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: DDJJake on Thursday 23 April 09 22:25 BST (UK)
Thanks for your help akc.

I have the Jean death in 1817 .... but for the John in question, I know he was still alive up to at least October/November 1821, because a second Jean was born to he and his wife Janet Maxwell in June, 1921 in Hightae.
If he lies in Lochmaben Old, he may be under the name of Janet Maxwell as her husband, John Richardson, born 1773.
John was a 'Heckler' to trade ... which may be a clue to his whereabouts if there was a Flax Mill near Hightae at the beginning of the 19th Century.

For the period 1767-1809, one of the John Richardson's might be my GGGGG Grandfather who was married to Janet Wright c. 1749. They had their last child in 1773.

I am also seeking death/burial of my GGGG Grandfather William Richardson b. 1752 and married to Jean Rae, 2nd February, 1772 .... after their last child, William was born in 1789.

Best wishes,
DDJJAKE

Aye
DDJJAKE
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: akc on Thursday 23 April 09 22:53 BST (UK)
There,s a William Richardson weaver ( called woollam ) died at Hightae Nov 13 1800. There is a  Janet Wrights( Richardson )  a widow of John died at  Heck April 23 1803.
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: akc on Thursday 23 April 09 23:26 BST (UK)
Hi again, I,ve just found a Margaret Rae wife of William Richardson died at Hightae August 13 1813 ( could Jean have been known by another name ). I havent found any Janet Maxwell yet except the baillie,s wife. There is 1 Jean Rae died at Smallholm 20 Apr 1818, no spouse mentioned.

akc
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: DDJJake on Friday 24 April 09 07:06 BST (UK)
Hello again akc ...

These two look strong candidates ... thanks ...
There's a William Richardson weaver ( called woollam ) died at Hightae Nov 13 1800. There is a  Janet Wrights( Richardson )  a widow of John died at  Heck April 23 1803.

There may be more details on the headstones ?

Best to you,
DDJJAKE
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: akc on Friday 24 April 09 07:32 BST (UK)
Good morning! there are 41 references to Richardson,s in my book and it looks like a lot of them have married people with the name of Wright, and they all appear to originate from Hightae. I will try to narrow it down a bit.
In memory of john Richardson son of John Richardson, portioner in Hightae who died 16 January 1849 aged 13 months.
In memory of Elspa Wright spouse of John Richardson who died at Hightae 13 march 1778 aged 40 ( more writing on this one )

William Richardson in Hietae died 19 June 180 aged 64

Mary Richardson spouse to David Wright in Hietae died 1st July 1830 aged 68 ( more writing on this one )

Here lies John Richardson also Elizabeth Wright spouse to foresaid John Richardson died 10 Jan 1794 88yrs ( more on this one )

In memory of William Richardson who died at Hietae 18 July 1846 age 62 yrs ( a lot more on this one )

Hope you find one among these that rings a bell and they dont get you more confused

akc

In Memory of William
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: DDJJake on Friday 24 April 09 09:16 BST (UK)
Thanks again akc ..

Here is my direct line down to my GG G-F John Maxwell Richardson (Portioner)...
I also have the lines down to the present day for this line from William (b.1752) and for John (b. 1754)  ... it is finding the early deaths that are the problem. Wills and testaments helped a lot later on as these Richardsons were portioners and thus leased land which showed as payments due on the wills.

First Generation
1.   John RICHARDSON  was born in 1724 in Lochmaben, Dumfries, Scotland.
John married Janet WRIGHT  about 1749 in Lochmaben Dumfries Scotland. Janet was born in 1728 in Lochmaben Dumfries  Scotland.
They had the following children:
   2   M   i.   James RICHARDSON  was born on 1 Nov 1750 in Lochmaben, Dumfries, Scotland.
+   3   M   ii.   William RICHARDSON  was born on 19 Feb 1752.
+   4   M   iii.   John RICHARDSON [Farmer]  was born on 1 Dec 1754. He died on 27 Aug 1823.
   5   M   iv.   Thomas RICHARDSON  was born on 1 Feb 1756 in Lochmaben Dumfries  Scotland.
   6   M   v.   Nathaniel RICHARDSON  was born on 1 Mar 1759 in Lochmaben Dumfries  Scotland. He died on 18 Dec 1807 in Lochmaben, Dumfries, Scotland.
   7   M   vi.   Robert RICHARDSON  was born on 1 Sep 1761 in Lochmaben Dumfries  Scotland. He died on 11 May 1848 in Lochmaben, Dumfries, Scotland.
   8   M   vii.   George RICHARDSON  was born on 1 Jan 1764 in Lochmaben Dumfries  Scotland.
   9   F   viii.   Elisabeth RICHARDSON  was born on 31 Jul 1767 in Lochmaben, Dumfries, Scotland.
   10   F   ix.   Janet RICHARDSON  was born on 14 Feb 1773 in Lochmaben, Dumfries, Scotland. She died on 24 Jan 1800 in Hightae, Dumfries, Scotland.
Second Generation
   3.   William RICHARDSON  (John) was born on 19 Feb 1752 in Lochmaben, Dumfries, Scotland.
William married Jean RAE  daughter of John RAE on 2 Feb 1772 in Lochmaben, Dumfries, Scotland. Jean was born in 1756 in Lochmaben, Dumfries, Scotland.
William and Jean had the following children:
+   11   M   i.   John RICHARDSON [Heckler]  was born on 24 Jan 1773. He died before 1851.
+   12   F   ii.   Janet RICHARDSON  was christened on 4 Mar 1776. She died on 11 Dec 1863.
   13   M   iii.   Matthew RICHARDSON  was born on 11 Feb 1778 in Hightae, Lochmaben, Dumfries.
+   14   M   iv.   William RICHARDSON [Pig Dealer]  was born on 4 Dec 1789. He died before 1851.
Third Generation

11.   John RICHARDSON [Heckler]  (William, John) was born on 24 Jan 1773 in Lochmaben, Dumfries, Scotland. He died before 1851 in Hightae, Lochmaben, Scotland.
John married Janet MAXWELL  daughter of John MAXWELL [Proprietor] and Janet REID on 9 Sep 1803 in Lochmaben Dumfries  Scotland. Janet was born in 1781 in Hightae, Lochmaben, Scotland. She died on 28 Jan 1857 in Hightae, Lochmaben, Scotland.
They had the following children:
   19   F   i.   Jean RICHARDSON  was born on 7 Sep 1804 in Lochmaben Dumfries  Scotland. She died on 4 Oct 1817 in Lochmaben Dumfries  Scotland.
   20   M   ii.   William RICHARDSON  was born on 10 Dec 1806 in Lochmaben, Dumfries, Scotland. He was christened on 30 Dec 1806 in Lochmaben, Dumfries, Scotland. He died before 1851.
   21   F   iii.   Janet RICHARDSON  was born on 11 Oct 1815 in Lochmaben, Dumfries, Scotland.
   22   M   iv.   John Maxwell RICHARDSON [Portioner-Joiner]  was born on 8 Jun 1818 in Lochmaben Dumfries Scotland. He was christened on 23 Jun 1818 in Lochmaben Dumfries Scotland. He died on 18 Jul 1883 in Lochmaben, Dumfries, Scotland.  The cause of death was Peritonitis.
John married Margaret MCMILLAN  daughter of John MCMILLAN [Crofter] and Ann or Hannah CAMERON on 24 Oct 1847 in Dryfesdale, Dumfries, Scotland. Margaret was born in 1818 in Kilmallie, Argyll  Scotland. She died on 17 May 1888 in Lochmaben Dumfries  Scotland.
   23   F   v.   Jean or Jane RICHARDSON  was born on 17 Jun 1821 in Hightae, Dumfries, Scotland. She died on 14 Sep 1898 in Lochmaben, Dumfries, Scotland.  The cause of death was Valvular Heart Disease Asthemia and Cardiac Failure.

Cheers,
DDJJAKE
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: kojak on Friday 24 April 09 20:43 BST (UK)
Ahh, a you have sought out the sun have ye?

You must really miss the green green land...

As a Hightae boy myself (1974-1996 and 2001-2008), the village has long had a strong link to the surname Richardson.  There is a really good book by a local historian, Anne Fairn on the Royal Four Towns of which Hightae is the largest, and I am sure I have a copy here somewhere.

I will have a look and see if I can A) find the book and, if I can B) see if there is any mention made to your ancestors...

Kind regards,
Kojak
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: DDJJake on Friday 24 April 09 21:16 BST (UK)
Slainte kojak,

Although I am very proud of my Fife ancestry through my Grandfather Henderson back to 1665 in Wemyss, I am equally proud of my Grandmother Kerr's ancestry to the Richardson Portioners of Hightae [Hitae]. My GG G-F John Maxwell Richardson's 'will' was very precise on who could inherit the lands ... and after his wife, Margaret Mcmillan, then their daughter, my G G-M Janet Richardson, then on her death in 1925 it fell to her eldest heir Jane Kerr, her daughter, who married a David Leslie of Annan in 1906 and lived in Butt Street there until her death in 1953.
I spent a week in Annan, three years ago finding cousins, and also travelling all over Lochmaben ... from the Carthat Farms (another blood related Richardson's Portions) to Hightae where I found my GG G-F's Joinery workshop and steading, and chatted with the present owner.
It was very exciting because until then I didn't know a thing about the future worldwide - Toronto, Winnipeg, Illinois, nor Scottish existences furth of Stirling, of Janet Richardson's 10 children born in Bannockburn [!] as Kerrs from 1880 to 1895, except my grannie Jessie Kerr b. 1886 and two of her sisters who happened to live in Stirling when I was a lad. But I have also been to visit my discovered 2nd Cousins in Canada .... fantastic experience.
Aye
DDJJAKE
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: DDJJake on Friday 24 April 09 21:43 BST (UK)
Hi akc,

I quote you William Richardson in Hietae died 19 June 180 aged 64

180 ? .... or was it unreadable ?

My William was born in 1752 !

Thanks
DDJJAKE
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: akc on Friday 24 April 09 22:23 BST (UK)
Hi again, sorry about that, it should read 19th June 1801 aged 64 yrs

akc
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: Heather H on Friday 18 November 11 12:51 GMT (UK)
I am wondering if there are any Hendersons in the Lochmaben kirkyard?  I'm working on the family of Thomas Henderson (1779-1845), son of Francis Henderson & Mary Vivers.  Thomas Henderson was married to Agnes Barton.

Thanks!
Heather
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: akc on Friday 18 November 11 15:26 GMT (UK)
there are a total of 25 hendersons in the opr burial index for lochmaben, no thomas but there is a francis buried annan oct 16 1808 it gives his address as carthit
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: purplekat on Friday 25 November 11 16:42 GMT (UK)
Hi Heather

My ggg grandmother was Ann Henderson daughter of Francis Henderson and Mary Vivers, she married Robert Blyth and moved to Moffat,
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: DDJJake on Friday 25 November 11 16:54 GMT (UK)
Hi akc.
Did you mean CARTHAT  rather than CARTHIT ? ......  as my Richardson cousins were in possession of both Carthat farms, south over the hill from Hightae, from the early 1800s. I visited these farms about four years ago .... but the Richardson portionerships probably had been sold off as there was no local knowledge of their former presence .... at least among the few people with whom I managed to converse.
Aye
DDJJAKE
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: akc on Friday 25 November 11 17:55 GMT (UK)
just says carthit in my book ddjjake could be miss-spelt

heather h, just found this in the torthorwald memorial inscriptions: in memory of thomas henderson died at lockerby 11th february 1845 age 67 yrs, also agnes barton his spouse died at carthwood 18th may 1815 aged 39yrs. also john henderson their son died april 1828 aged 22 yrs
there are also a few references to the barton family in carthwood on the previous inscription if you are interested
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: akc on Friday 25 November 11 18:43 GMT (UK)
hi again heather h, just realised i have the marriage of francis henderson and mary vivers on  previous searches i did for one of my relatives:
on nov 20th francis henderson kirklandrigg dalton and mary veevers hill cummertrees

also their children: ann june 27 1784, thomas jan 29 1779, richard march 22 1780, twins betty and janet jan1st 1782, christopher nov 19 1787

there is a birth 25 feb 1791 at kirklandrigg to francis henderson and mary irvine ( mary vivers must have died ) twin daughters sarah and rachel

akc
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: akc on Friday 25 November 11 19:57 GMT (UK)
in the caerlaverock monumental inscriptions: in memory of robert and francis hutchison who died 1st february 1826 aged 1 year and 3 months, sons of robert hutchison in kelwoodburn. also william hutchison his son who died 1st june 1832 in the 4th year of his age. also robert francis his son who died 16th august 1847 aged 20 years and 9 months. also mary vivers their grandmotherwho died 28th october 1830 aged 79 years. also rachel henderson her daughter who died 25th may 1831 aged 39 years. also sarah henderson his spouse who died at racks25th february 1862 aged 69 years. also said robert hutchison who died at racks 22 april 1876 aged 86 years

so the twins sarah and rachel mentioned in my previous post must have been born to mary vivers not mary irvine ( must have been misspelt )
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: purplekat on Friday 25 November 11 21:08 GMT (UK)
Hi akc

I agree the Irvine in the OPR's is a mispelling, the list of children I have found in the OPR on Scotland's People for Francis and Mary are:

Thomas Henderson 31/01/1779
Richard Henderson 26/03/1780
Betty Henderson 01/01/1782
Janet Henderson 01/01/1782
Ann Henderson 27/06/1784  - my ggg grandmother
Christopher Henderson 24/11/1787
Sarah Henderson 21/03/1791
Rachael Henderson 21/03/1791

Hope you don't think I'm hijacking your topic DDJjake but i think there may be a Henderson, Hutchison, Kerr link somewhere alone the line due to a thread I started in 2010 and I think you were involved in akc

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,420393.0.html
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: akc on Saturday 26 November 11 07:39 GMT (UK)
thought i,d come across this info before purplekat, but couldnt find it, nice to go over old family links again, we have a robert henderson kerr and francis henderson kerr in our tree

akc
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: DDJJake on Saturday 26 November 11 09:02 GMT (UK)
Hi purplekat,
Most of my Henderson relatives originate from Fife and my Kerrs from Midlothian. My Richardson of Lochmaben link is to my Kerrs of Midlothian ..... James Kerr [Coachman!) of Cramond married Janet Richardson in Hightae in 1879 .... and one of their 8 daughters born in Stirling was my grandmother Jessie who married John Henderson in 1907 in Stirling .... this John descended from James Henderson and Elspeth Ingles m. 1731 in Wemyss, Fife.
Aye
DDJJAKE
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: purplekat on Saturday 26 November 11 21:02 GMT (UK)
Sorry DDJJake

I have a Thomas Richardson in my tree but he's not a direct ancestor of mine, he's the son in law of Ann Henderson, it seems to be a common name in the area so he probably won't be one of yours but I'll give you his details anyway, he was born approx 1824 in Johnstone and died aged 29 in 1852, he was a farm labourer.

akc - do you think there might be a link between 'my' Francis Henderson and your ancestors?
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: akc on Sunday 27 November 11 09:11 GMT (UK)
we think they could have been named after their fathers employer, seemed to be quite common back then to give your offspring a middle name from the local gentry, and we have a long line of ag labs in our tree

akc
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: purplekat on Sunday 27 November 11 11:55 GMT (UK)
Thanks akc, 'my' Francis Henderson was a farmer but I don't know if he owned a farm or was an employee  :)
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: Heather H on Sunday 27 November 11 14:26 GMT (UK)
Thank you, everyone, for all this great information about the Hendersons! 

Would it be possible to get a photo of the grave of Thomas Henderson & Agnes Barton in Torthorwald?

Purplekat, can you give me more information about Ann Henderson?  Names & dates of children, grandchildren, etc? 

Since Thomas Henderson & Agnes Barton turned out to be in Torthorwald, maybe that's where I should be directly my inquiries.  There were a lot of Hendersons in that area, and I'm having difficulty sorting them out. 

So Francis Henderson & Mary Vivers (married 1777 Kirklandrigg, Dalton) were buried separately.  Mary with her daughter Sarah Hutchison.  Where is Francis Henderson buried?  That might give a bit more information about him.  A Francis Henderson was born 9 Feb 1735 in Annan, to Thomas Henderson & Bettie Thompson -- but is this the right Francis Henderson?  It makes him rather old at the time of his marriage.  But he did name his oldest son Thomas....

Thanks for any insight!
Heather
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: purplekat on Sunday 27 November 11 16:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Heather

When I get a bit more time I'll pm you with some more details about Ann Henderson's family but unfortunately I don't have any details about Francis's family.
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: RaiR on Sunday 18 December 11 14:16 GMT (UK)
I am wondering if anyone in this group is related to my Richardsons -

1. William RICHARDSON, son of John RICHARDSON (1742-1824) and Elspeth WRIGHT (1738-1778), was born 1770. William died 1849 in Hightae, Dumfriesshire, Scotland. His body was interred in Lochmaben, Dumfriesshire, Scotland.

He married Elizabeth HANNAH. Elizabeth was born in Dornock, Dumfriesshire, Scotland 1773, the daughter of Robert HANNAH and Mary SCOTT. She was listed as a resident with her daughter (Margaret RICHARDSON, unmarried, aged 39, dressmaker) and granddaughter (Elizabeth BONSTEAD, unmarried, aged 37, servant, born in Lochmaben) in the census report in High Street, Hightae, Dumfriesshire, Scotland, 1861. Elizabeth died 4 Nov 1862 in Hightae, Dumfriesshire, Scotland.

William's occupation: Blacksmith.

William RICHARDSON and Elizabeth HANNAH had the following children all born in Hightae, Dumfriesshire, Scotland:
 
2. i. Mary Johnston RICHARDSON was born 24 May 1800.
 
3. ii. Elspeth RICHARDSON was born 24 Mar 1802 and died April 1802 in Hightae, Dumfriesshire, Scotland.
 
4. iii. Thomas RICHARDSON was born 24 Feb 1804 and died 8 Apr 1807 in Hightae, Dumfriesshire, Scotland.
 
5. iv. Janet RICHARDSON was born 17 Nov 1805.
 
6. v.  Elspeth RICHARDSON was born 31 Dec 1807 and died 3 Jun 1817 in Hightae, Dumfriesshire, Scotland.
 
7. vi. John RICHARDSON was born in Hightae, Dumfriesshire, Scotland 29 May 1810. He married Janet HENDERSON in Lochmaben, Dumfriesshire, Scotland, 7 Sep 1838. Janet was born in Lochmaben, Dumfriesshire, Scotland 1808. John's occupation: Blacksmith. He was listed as a resident in the census reports in Lochmaben, Dumfriesshire, Scotland, 1841 and 1861. They had the following children: Elizabeth, Charlotte, Elspeth and John.
 
8. vii. Thomas RICHARDSON was born 12 Jul 1812. He married Jannet WILSON. Thomas and Jannet were my g-g-grandparents. They settled in Sangamon County, Illinois, USA.
 
9. viii. James RICHARDSON was born 24 Jul 1814.
 
10. ix. Margaret RICHARDSON was born 22 Oct 1818. Margaret's occupation: Dressmaker. She was listed as a resident in the census report in Hightae, Dumfriesshire, Scotland, 1851 and 1861.
 
11. x. Isabella RICHARDSON was born 20 Mar 1824
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: crackpot on Tuesday 03 April 12 01:45 BST (UK)
Hello,
Have  read with interest about Lochmaben lookups and was particularly interested in the ones about Richardson. I am interested in a John Richardson who would have died before 1769. I do not know when he was born. He married Elizabeth Wright who was born about 1706 and died in Jan 1794. Both are buried in Lochmaben. If anyone knows of them or can tell me about their headstone inscriptions I would really appreciate it.
John and his wife livedin Heck. They only had one child Agnes born Jun 1737 who married William Thorburn of Kelto. They are buried in St Michaels and I have their information but it is John and 'Elizabeth I am really interested in.
Any information would be wonderful.
Crackpot
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: akc on Tuesday 03 April 12 07:16 BST (UK)
Hi, in the Lochmaben Old Churchyard Memorial Inscriptions No 287: Here lyes John Richardson...........Also Elizabeth Wright spouse to foresaid John Richardson who died 10th January 1794 aged about 88 years. Also Elizabeth second daughter to William Thorburn of Kelton and Agnes Richardson spouse who died 13th December 1765 aged 16 months. Also John eldest son to the said William Thorburn and Agnes Richardson who died 2nd January 1764 aged .......... Further inscriptions illegible due to very feathery chisel work.

There are 41 references to Richardsons and 19 with Wright in the above booklet, I think you can still get it from dgfhs

also in the old parochial deaths and burial index there are 9 Richardsons from Heck and 4 Wrights

akc
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: crackpot on Tuesday 03 April 12 21:01 BST (UK)
Thank you so much AKC for the information ----very much appreciated!!!

Crackpot
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: Johnner Kid on Wednesday 04 April 12 15:06 BST (UK)
Hi Crackpot,
The booklet is still available from DGFHS see www.dgfhs.org.uk and click the Publications link.
I was involved when this booklet was published and took a lot of photographs in the old graveyard.  After looking through the archive I can say I found only five stone listing the Richardson Families.  Unfortunately they do not included your John and Elizabeth.  Many inscriptions, in particular those on the old tables, are now very difficult to read.
The booklet is based on a survey made in the 1960s and sandstone deteriorates fast when lying flat.  Here is a photo of one of the Richardson stones -- if you want the other four showing readable MIs just send me a PM with an email address that accepts attachments.
Regards,
Sy
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: dblun on Thursday 05 April 12 05:59 BST (UK)
Hello
If someone still has access to the records of Old Lochmaben burials ..I'm wondering if there are references to the Grierson or Lockerbie families?

Thanks
Dorothy
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: akc on Thursday 05 April 12 06:59 BST (UK)
Any names in particular you are looking for ? there are a few references to Lockerbie in the opr,s no Griersons but is it possible it could be shortened to " Grier " there are some in " Hightae "

Only one Grierson in the MI,s and one Lockerby

akc
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: dblun on Thursday 05 April 12 07:27 BST (UK)
Wow ...
John Grierson  married Janet Lockerbie  1804 in Lochmaben.  He was the son of William Grierson.She the daughter of James Lockerbie and Grace Bell. The 1851 census shows members of the family living in Hightae .  I thought they might be in the Lochmaben cemetery.

The Grierson name shows a variety of spellings ..Grirson , Grearson, Greerson so Grier would be possible. The same applies to Lockerbie , Lockerby etc.

So ... all possibilities are worthy of a look.
Thanks so much
Dorothy
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   

Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: akc on Thursday 05 April 12 08:11 BST (UK)
In the OPR: Grizel ( Bell ) wife of James Lockerbie Hightae d Feb 15 1817
Janet Lockerbie Hightae d Apr 2 1797
Margaret Lockerbie widow of David Venture bur Dryfesdale Hightae  d May 2 1816
Grace Grier daughter of Mathew Hightae d  Oct 23 1818
Mary Wilson widow of John Grier Hightae  d July 13 1813
Thomas Grier married Hightae d Oct 12 1815

also some references to " Grieve " families in Hightae

In Lochmaben Old Churchyard MI,s: No 311: In memory of Grace Bell, spouse to James Lockerby in Hietae who departed this life 22nd february 1817 in the 85th year of her age.

No 344: In memory of William Grierson who died at Hietae 20th May 1848 aged 4 years and 2 months. Also John Grierson who died 22 May 1848 aged 9 months children of John Grierson mason in Hietae. Post 1855 inscriptions

Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: Johnner Kid on Thursday 05 April 12 09:44 BST (UK)
The DGFHS booklets are not expensive.   See http://www.dgfhs.org.uk/publications.asp
The Lochmaben MIs are 2.5 UK pounds and the OPR  less at just 2.0 UK pounds.
There is postage to add of course but at 75gm and 60gm it won't break the bank.
Royal Mail are about to whack up their prices at the end of the month so I suggest buying sooner rather than later.
Sy
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: crackpot on Thursday 05 April 12 16:31 BST (UK)
Johnner Kid

Thanks so much for the info and the photo .
PM to follow

Crackpot
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup
Post by: cupcake on Wednesday 20 June 18 09:17 BST (UK)

Would it be possible to check for a headstone for a Isabella MAIN/MEIN (Forsyth) died 1867 Lochmaben.

cupcake
Title: Re: Lochmaben Headstone Lookup COMPLETED
Post by: cupcake on Wednesday 27 June 18 18:35 BST (UK)

Would it be possible to check for a headstone for a Isabella MAIN/MEIN (Forsyth) died 1867 Lochmaben.

cupcake

Found her. Thanks. COMPLETED.