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Independent Islands => Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark => Topic started by: harley08 on Wednesday 22 April 09 14:54 BST (UK)
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I am seeking any information on Alexander and Emily(Webb) Mills who lived in St Peter Port Guernsey until 1859 when they emigrated to New Zealand with their children on the "Robert Small". Their son, James Edward Mills was my g-g-g grandfather who was 18 when they left. Any information would be greatly appreciated as I am trying to put together a family tree for my grandmother
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Hi
1851 census for Guernsey. All b St Peter Port Guernsey
Alexander Mills 31 timber and woollen dealer
Emily 36
Maria 11
Alexander 10
James 10
Samuel 5
Walter 3
Emily 1
Thomas 1
Cornelia 1 Month
HO107 Piece 2530 Folio 203 Page 27
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1841 for St Peter Port. All b Guernsey unless shown otherwise
The 1841 does not show relationships and ages from 16yrs onwards are rounded down to the nearest 5 years
Charles Webb 60 b England
Maria 55 b England
James 20
Cornelia 20
Mary A 15
Alexander Mills 20 tailor
Emily Mills 25
Maria Mills 2
John Mills 4 Months
James Mills 4 Months
W McArty 35 not b Guernsey
Alice McArty 5
Emily McArty 5
HO107 Piece 1460/12 Folio 36 Page 19
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thank you for your reply. I am wondering why the 1841 census shows John Mills and the 1851 census shows Alexander Mills
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No idea but here are some submitted IGI entries - it's a proven fact you should never rely on submitted entries because according to these 2 - Emily is a miracle mum
Alexander Charles MILLS Birth: 10 MAR 1841 Saint Peter Port, Guernsey Death: 20 SEP 1919
Father: Alexander MILLS Mother: Emily WEBB
James Edward Mills Birth: 23 APR 1841 Saint Peter Port, Guernsey Death: 1919
Father: Alexander Mills Mother: Emily Webb
Cornelia was Sarah Cornelia according to the IGI
PARENT SEARCH ON IGI
www.familysearch.org - On home page - click on “Advanced Search” to the right of the SEARCH button
Select “International Genealogical Index” from the left hand menu
Input fathers name and surname BUT only put mothers christian name as not all entries have the maiden name
REGION – select British Isles from the menu
COUNTRY – select one or “All countries”
COUNTY (will appear when you select COUNTRY) – select whichever matches what you know about the family
Click SEARCH
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thank you for your reply. I did see the different dates of birth for Alexander and James, would love to know what the real story was! Just like the different names on the census.
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There are 3 people on Genes Reunited who have listed an interest in Alexander Mills b 1841 Guernsey - Bernard, Ian and Carol
www.GenesReunited.co.uk
You have to have a subscription to contact them
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Hi Harley08, I am the x6 great-grand daughter of Alexander Mills born in Fermanagh Ireland. Your ancestor Alexander Mills who married Emily Webb is brother to my George John eldest child in the family. Look forward to hearing from you. Alison
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Hi Alison
It is so great to hear from you. What information do you have about Alexander and his family? All I know is what is on the census and what ship they left Guernsey on. I have a form to fill out for the family history library in Guernsey to get any records they may have but as yet I haven't filled it out and sent it off. They made their way to Christchurch in New Zealand but after that I can't seem to find any more.
Hope to hear from you soon
Jenni (Harley08)
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Hi Jenni,
Lovely to hear from you. Where to start? My family has the 'Mills' family bible so I will quote directly from the register.
Alexander Mills born 1784 county Fermanagh north of Ireland
Son of the above
George John Mills born 17th Aug 1811 Jersey
John Mills born 2nd June 1815 Guernsey (died)
Sarah and Elizabeth Mills born 8th April 1817 Guernsey
Alexander Mills born 22nd June 1819 Guernsey
Mary Ann Mills born 9th Nov 1821 Guernsey
Maria born 2nd Feb 1824 Guerney
James born 16th June 1826 (died) 7th Feb 1830 Guernsey
William born 28th June 1828 (died) 22nd Feb 1830 Guernsey
Joseph born 23rd Dec 1830 (died) 22nd Oct 1837 Guernsey
Thomas born 28th Feb 1833 Guernsey (killed in Guernsey harbour on board his vessel)
George John Mills married Ann Frampton 29th May 1834 Parish of St Helier. They applied for free passage and sailed to South Australia in 1839, with their sons Edwin and Alfred. George was a brickmaker/farmer. they had 7 children in total and I descend from their daughter Maria Suzannah.
Previously, I have had contact with descendants from your Alexander and Emily Emma Webb. These are the details I received.
Alexander Mills born in 1784 married Mary Eustace (born 1792 St Peter Port Guersey) married about 1818 in Ireland. (not confirmed)
Emily Emma Webb born 1813 Guernsey died 1901 Christchurch.
Emily's parents were Charles Webb and Maria Pyke (details not known)
Emily and Alexander had 10 children. Alexander's occupation tailor.
Some of the children were born in Timaru Canterbury New Zealand.
Of you James Edward Mills the tree states he was born 10th March 1841 in St Peter Port Guernsey died about 1919 (no further details)
I will try and re-contact previous researchers from your line, hopefully they haven't changed their e-mail address. Regards Alison.
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Hi Alison,
thank you for all the information you have shared with me. I have only been doing my family tree for a short time and now realise I knew nothing.
James Edward Mills (my 3x grandfather) married Clara Charlton (who is a complete mystery) in Christchurch 6 march 1864. Their son John Leonard married Elsie May Robbins in Sydney 19 March 1902. It is John and Elsie's daughter Alice who was my great-grandmother. The Mills side of the family has been a series of mysteries that no one seems to know much about.
A member of the family now resides in Guernsey and is going to track down what she can from over there.
Thank you once again
Jenni
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Hi Jenni,
Just a quick reply, One of my contacts has e-mailed me and will follow-up. And correction of information sent. My Edwin Thomas did not sail with the family to South Australia as I stated, he died in 1836 in Jersey. Both he and his brother Alfred were born in Jersey. Alison.
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Hi, I was interested to see your post about Alexander Mills and family. Alexander and Emily are my ggg greatparents; their daughter also Emily was one of three Mills sisters who married three Suckling brothers in Christchurch. I posted a request some time back as I wanted to find out the date Emily my gg grandmother was born. I guess you've got Alexander's death certificate which confusingly records his place of birth as being Ireland. You may have seen the short biography of Alexander Mills in the G R McDonald register in Canterbury Museum which unfortunately doesn't include much information beyond the family losing all they owned in a big fire that ocurred not too long after they came to NZ. I have found this a difficult family to research because of the relatively common surname but am happy to send you what I've found out.
Regards,
Craig,
Christchurch, New Zealand.
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Hi Craig,
It is great to hear from someone from the NZ side of the family. unfortunately I know very little about the family and what i have been told has turned out to be completely wrong. Any information you may have would be very welcome as my relative who lives in Guernsey has had trouble getting any information.
Jenni
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Hello
Alexander and Emily are also my GG grandparents. Their son Frederick Mills married Gertrude Foster in Christchurch in 1903 (my great grandparents). Frederick Mills died in 1918 and Gertrude in 1973. I have inherited portrait photos of Alexander and Emily. I have also inherited a wedding photo of Frederick and Gertrude that includes many of the Mills family members that have yet to be identified. I have also found some old photos of Frederick outside three different Boot/Shoe shops in Christchurch that he appeared to own or manage. I have found additional materials relating to Alexander Mills in the Canterbury musuem in Christchurch. I am intending to lodge additional copies of the photos at the museum next time I visit Christchurch
Regards.
Michael
Sydney, Australia
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My Great grandfather was Frederick Valentine Mills son of Alexander Charles Mills and Emma Loader. The pictures attached are of Alexander Charles Mills and Emma Loader
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Hello Michael
Thank you for posting the photos, my family have nothing for the Mills family, which is very sad, but finally I am able to put together the pieces thanks to everyone else.
Jenni
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Hi Jenni and all Mills family researchers
I am excited to have found some information about the Mills family of Christchurch in New Zealand.
I am descendant from Edward James & Clara - and thier son John Leonard Mills in NSW Australia. I wold love to hear any further information that anyone has about this line. I really have very little information about the Mills family and any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Jac :D
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Attached is the Wedding photo of Frederick Valentine Mills and Amy Gertrude Foster in Papanui Christchurch in early 1900s. On the right hand side of the porch is Alexander Charles Mills in the rear. In front of him are unknow but I summise it maybe the brothers & sisters of Frederick Valentine Mills. Emma Mills nee Loader is on the left hand Porch next to the column. To the left of her is an unknown family relative. She is prominant throughout the photo albums I have. It may possibly be Emily Emma Mills nee Webb (1813-1901) but I will have to double check the date of the wedding.
Anyone have any old family photos that might help identify the people?
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Photo of Alexander & Emma Mills with sons ~1890
Photo from Left to right of Emma Maude Foster (sister-in-law of Frederick), Alec Mills (son of Frederick), Emma Mills (mother of Frederick), Rodney Mills (son of Frederick), Gertrude Mills (wife of Frederick), unknown (possibly sister of Frederick), Frederick Mills, Doris Mills (daughter of Frederick) Circa ~1911.
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Another photo of Frederick Valentine outside his shoe shop in Christchurch Circa ~1910
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Hi Robinso
That is amazing. Thanks so much for posting these. Do you mind if I ask where you got these photo's from? Have they been passed through the family? Do you know if any of the brothers in the photo might be Edward James?
Is it possible for you to load them at a higher resolution at all? I can barely make out details once I open them.
Thanks so much again
Jac
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The marriage certificate for Frederick Valentine Mills and Amy Gertrude Foster is dated 1st January 1902.
Emily Emma Mills the mother of Alexander died 22nd December 1901 and is buried in Linwood cemetary. The previous photo submitted cannot be Alexander's mother Emily Emma Mills as she died before the wedding
The photo albums that I have were inherited from my late grandmother whose father was Frederick Valentine Mills
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Hi Jac
Is Edward James the son of James Edward, the brother of Alexander.
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Hi Robinso
Edward James would be the brother of Alexander (both being the children of Alexander and Emily Emma Webb) as far as I can figure out!
Sorry if I am confusing you. I only stumbled across this information today and I am trying to figure out the lineage.
Thanks
Jacqui
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Have a look at page 1 of this forum
James Edward Mills Birth: 23 APR 1841 Saint Peter Port, Guernsey Death: 1919
Father: Alexander Mills Mother: Emily Webb
You may be able to track down where they are buried by searching the online Cemetary database at the Christchurch library.
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I will dig out higher resolution copies of the photos and post shortly
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The Christchurch Museum also has an extensive photo catalog that can be viewed onsite. Unfortunately it is not online and you need to first search the index and then manually request the photo file for viewing. This can take up to 24 hours to retrieve. This facility is also only open during business hours.
I have in the past while in Christchurch searched the index and found some content regarding the Mills family. I unfortunatly ran out of time to go through it all.
I did find a hand drawn family tree for Arthur Henry Mills (b1872 d1956) and Janet Ralston. Arthur Henry Mills was a son of Alexander Charles Mills and Emma nee Loader.
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Hi Robinso
Thanks for that. I have looked up and found Alexander and Emily in the Christchurch cemetrary records. So thanks for that suggestion
That would be great if you have higher res versions :)
I would love to be able to travel to NZ and check that out. Its a great idea.
Thanks
jacqui
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Hi Robinso
Wow the photos are amazing, I will show these to my grandmother and mother who will be totally blown away . Thank you so much!
Jenni (harley08)
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Hi I am 4xgrand-daughter of James Edward Mills. Have just discovered all of your posts on the Mills Family. The information has been really helpful. Thank you to everyone. I have just started looking into the family tree.
I noticed harley08 wrote James Edward married Clara Charlton. I have her first name as Frances- b 1845 in London, Middlesex, U.K. And died in 1905 in Sydney Australia. The census in 1851 shows she lived in Covent Garden, London U.K.
Also noticed jacmills wrote James Edward and Clara had a son- John Leonard. Well he had a brother named Ernest Charles, b- 1865- d 1941, married to Eliza Vivian Cogar b-1868-d-1947. Ernest Charles was my ggggrandfather.
It's been exciting reading all the information you all have posted. My mind boggles with the extent of relatives out there. :)
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Hi Kat12, I noticed your post from a week ago. Like you I am part of the vast Mills clan, descended from Alexander and Emily through their daughter Emily. I recently asked the Priaulx Library in Guernsey to complete some research for me on Mary Eustace, Alexander's mother and got back the following information:
Civil death register.
Date of death: 17 September 1868
Name: Mary Eustas (widow of Alex Mills).
Age at death: 80 years
Father: Thomas Eustas
Address at death: Rue Saumarez, St Peter Port.
Cause of death: Decadence naturelle (Natural causes).
My next step will be to ask the Priaulx Library to research the Eustace/Eustas family further, so we can find out the name of Mary’s mother, and Mary’s siblings etc.
I see on Rootsweb someone has posted a family tree for Samuel, another of Alexander and Emily's children and I have possibly found their son Charles; the only one I don't have any information on is Thomas, who is possibly the twin of my great great grandmother Emily. I would like to start an informal e-mail network of Mills descendents (if there isn't one already). As this is your first post you may know you need two more before you can send a personal message in which case, if you wanted to, you could be sent details of how to join the Mills forum.
Regards,
Craig.
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Hi Craig
Thank you for the information on Mary Eustace. I only had her birth year. I have printed out all of the posts for our Mills family and sent it to my auntie. She grew up a Mills and was excited to know I was researching our family.
I have only looked at the direct Mills line so now I will start looking at siblings and spouces.
Thanks
Kate
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Hi Craig
I was unaware I needed 2 more posts to receive private messages :). I would like to be a part of a Mills forum/ e-mails etc. Whatever it may be. Thank you for letting me know.
Kate
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Hi
Forgot to mention I found some info on James Edward Mills b 1841 St Peters Port, Gurnsey. I received a death record of James Mills died in 1921 Randwick, N.S.W Australia. I asked Waverley Cemetery in Bronte, Sydney if they had a James Edward Mills and they replied they had a James Mills there. So not confirmed but seems very likely to be our James Edward Mills. Further investigations would need to be done to confirm. I thought it was a good start.
:) Kate
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Hi Kate
I have just caught up with my posts on here, and am quite excited to find another Mills family member
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I'm the great great granddaughter of Charles Mills, who was born in Guernsey in 1857. He married Annie Hall (or Howell as it is listed on one record I have got thus far) and they had a son called Harry Leslie Mills. Harry is my great grandfather, his son Robert my grandfather.
I'm only just starting on the Mills line, and today got records through from NZ about Harry Leslie Mills (birth, death, marriage).
Any info about Charles' parents would be marvellous (have gleaned so much from these posts already). Why did they migrate from Guernsey to NZ - to Christchurch? Where did Alexander & Em live in Guernsey, and what were their occupations?
On Harry's NZ birth certificate, 34 year old Charles was listed as a watchmaker, born in Guernsey and married Sydney born Annie Hall / Howell, on dec 17 1886. Though admittedly the writing is very scribbly on the certificate!
And I'll follow up any info about Harry Leslie Mills born in Christchurch, and the NZ Mills family through posts in another section of this site or if the mills email forum is still going as mentioned earlier.
Thanks, Vanessa
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here's the passenger list for the Robert Small, which left 1859 and arrived in NZ jan 1860. doesn't seem to have a full list of Mills though.
http://christchurchcitylibraries.com/Heritage/Digitised/Emigration/EmbarkationLists/RobertSmall-1859/
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I'm the great great granddaughter of Charles Mills, who was born in Guernsey in 1857. He married Annie Hall (or Howell as it is listed on one record I have got thus far) and they had a son called Harry Leslie Mills. Harry is my great grandfather, his son Robert my grandfather.
I'm only just starting on the Mills line, and today got records through from NZ about Harry Leslie Mills (birth, death, marriage).
Any info about Charles' parents would be marvellous (have gleaned so much from these posts already). Why did they migrate from Guernsey to NZ - to Christchurch? Where did Alexander & Em live in Guernsey, and what were their occupations?
On Harry's NZ birth certificate, 34 year old Charles was listed as a watchmaker, born in Guernsey and married Sydney born Annie Hall / Howell, on dec 17 1886. Though admittedly the writing is very scribbly on the certificate!
And I'll follow up any info about Harry Leslie Mills born in Christchurch, and the NZ Mills family through posts in another section of this site or if the mills email forum is still going as mentioned earlier.
Thanks, Vanessa
Harry is my father. I would be keen to know more about what you have found
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hi jac....i dont know how to even work this site yet, so hope the reply gets to you.
My grandfather was james edward mills...leonard's son....so franks brother, but they called him eddie...i met frank once or twice when i was little.
Yes. Pa just always told us the great grandmother or father was Maori...he was very adamant and proud of this!!! but, as you say theres nothing in the records to substantiate that... :( :( :o
I dont mind...its just that Pa was sooo proud of it.
I dont know if you know they all hated their father, leonard.
I found records where he was charged by 3 different women for child desertion!!! One of the women was their mum, elsie.....who died when Pa was 13.
I dont know who looked after them when she died???? Was frank older or younger then Pa?? Pa was born in 1910.
Ive just started doing this a month ago!
I live in sydney.
all the best
Leona :)
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hi again jac....and other mills descendants.....re the 'story' that there was Maori heritage somewhere.....
I do have to say that my Pa, eddie (leonard james' son) did LOOK Maori....as did most of his siblings that i ever met....and as does my uncle, his son.
I dont have any photos of leonard...but the Police description of him when he was wanted was...'black hair, brown eyes and dark complexion'.
Pa had jet black hair, very dark skin and a kinda maori nose...i hope that doesnt sound racist!!
anyway, theres nothing in the ancestry lines to support this....but also no explanation for their colouring/complexion etc ????
i dont think we'll ever solve that one. ;)
all the best
leona
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Hi to all Mills descendants,
A while back I got the staff from the Priaulx Library in Guernsey to look up some records for me, have been meaning to post the results, will do so over several posts on this thread:
Mills/Eustace records, unless specified all were found in baptism, marriage and burial registers for St Peter Port, Guernsey.
Mary Eustace’s marriage to Alexander Mills
Corporal Alexander Mills 4th G Battalion and Mary Eustace the daughter of John Eustace were married together 17 August 1814
Note: Mary’s death certificate states her father is named Thomas however the marriage certificate gives the name as John, - it may be that the person who registered the death made an error. A John Eustace is godparent to John born 1815.
Alexander Mills’ previous marriage
From the Jerripedia website, all records for St Helier, Jersey:
Alexander Mills 4 Garrison Battalion married Grace Coad on 15 November 1810.
Baptism: George John Mills baptised 30 August 1811 Parents Alexander and Grace Mills
Grace Cord Mills buried on 24 November 1811
As you can see a few surprises as is the case with other records posted below.
Regards,
Craigt.
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Children of Alexander Mills and Mary Eustace
Jean born 2, baptised 11 June 1815. Sponsors: Jean Eustace, Alexandre Mills, Elizabeth Eustace
Sarah twin} born 8, baptised 10 April 1817. Sponsors: Jean Irvine, Sara Irvine, Mary
} Haskins
Elizabeth } ̎ ̎ Sponsors: Alexandre Mills, Marie Mills,
Elizabeth Eustace
Mary Ann born 9 November, baptised 9 December 1821. Sponsors: Alexandre Mills, Elizabeth Eustace, Mary Mills
Maria born 2, baptised 22 February 1824. Sponsors: Alexandre Mills, Elizabeth Eustace, Mary Eustace
William born 28 June, baptised 13 July 1828. Sponsors: Alexander Mills, John Mills, Mary Eustace
Joseph born 23 December 1830, baptised 9 January 1831. Sponsors: Alexander Mills, John Mills, Mary Eustis
Thomas born 28 February, baptised 17 March 1833. Sponsors: George Mills, Alexander Mills, Eleanor Eayrs
Note that the baptism registers of all parishes also including Town Church, St. Peter Port were checked however the baptisms for Alexander Mills and Mary Eustace’s sons Alexander and James were not located.
Craigt.
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Death record for Alexander Mills
Alexander’s death is not on the civil register however his burial record is as follows:
Mills Alexander died 2 was buried 7 January 1848 aged 63 years
Craigt.
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Mary Eustace’s Baptism Record
Children of John Eustace and Marie Eustace
Marie born 2 February, baptised 16 July 1790. Sponsors: Jean Sparnen. Robert Erndey, Susanne Sparnen, Marie Eustis
George born 14, baptised 16 April 1792. Sponsors: Rodger Hambly, Joseph Trevose, Jeanne Toy
John born 1 December, baptised 25 1794. Sponsors: William Hambly, John Eustus, Jenny Hambly
John son of John Eustus was buried 15 February 1798.
Mary Eustace’s parents
There is the following marriage of John Eustace to Elizabeth Hoskings, however the burial register shows this to be a second marriage for Mary’s father John.
Mary wife of John Eustus was buried 2 March 1802
Sergt John Eustus of the Corps of Royal Military Artificers and Elizabeth Hoskings of this Parish were married together on 14 October 1802
This second marriage may seem like unseemly haste but a serving soldier with a young family really did not have any option open other than a quick marriage
No further children appear in the baptism registers but looking at Elizabeth’s birth date c1810 (census) she must be a child from the second marriage. (All parish church records have been searched.)
John son of John Eustus was buried 31 March 1805
This John is the child of the second marriage. Elizabeth Eustace appears on the 1871 census London census; - her birth place is as before Guernsey, however there are no baptism records for this family other than the three children of the first marriage who were baptised in the Town Church. Obviously John and his second wife Elizabeth were having children for some time. The only explanation for this is that we know that John was a military man, - the island was always garrisoned and although many baptisms took place in the parish churches the garrison did have its own chaplain. The National Army Museum indicates before about 1796 each regiment had its own chaplain; after then chaplains do seem to have been based in particular garrisons. Services would have been carried out in garrison chapels or in other consecrated areas. Records of births, marriages and death were kept in both regimental registers and in half yearly returns that were posted back to the war office.
Craigt.
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Alexander and Mary (Eustace) Mills are buried in Candie Cemetery which is just opposite the Priaulx Library.
Regarding death or burial records for John Eustace, his wife Elizabeth and son George, all the records for St. Peter Port and available burial indexes for other parish churches have been checked but no records were found.
Candie Cemetery Records
1798
Alexander Mills Plot bought by Josue P I Ahier Ecr January 3 1848. Died 2, buried 7 January 1848 aged 63 years born Ireland Plot No: C 32 Y £1 8sh
1873
Daniel son of Sr. Jean Chant and Marie Mills his wife Died September 2, buried 5 1848 aged Plot No: C 32 Y 8sh
2318
Sr. Jean Mills son of Alexandre died January 9, buried 13 1850 aged 35 years born Guernsey Plot No: C 32 Y 8sh
2823
Louisa Jane daughter of Samuel Dale and Maria Mills his wife died April 15, buried 18 1854 aged 2 years & 7 months born Guernsey Plot No: C 32 Y 8sh
2833
Samuel Edward son of Samuel Dale and Maria Mills his wife died May 15, buried 19 1854 aged 6 months born Guernsey Plot No: C 32 Y 8sh
3468
Amelia Sophia daughter of Samuel Dale and Marie Mills his wife died February 11, buried 15 1859 aged 6 years & 5 months born Guernsey Plot No: C 32 Y 8sh
4160
Rosa Lucy daughter of Samuel Dale & Maria Mills his wife died August 10, buried 14 1863 aged 3 years & 6 months born Guernsey Plot No: C 32 Y 8sh
4893
Mary Eustas wife of Mr. Alexander Mills died January 17, buried 20 1868 aged 80 years & 11 months Plot No: C 32 Y 8sh
5053
Mon Thomas Mills son of Alexandre and Mary Eustas his wife died January 17, buried 19 1869 aged 37 years born Guernsey Plot No: C32 Y 8sh
Craigt.
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Alexander Mills junior and Emily Webb.
Town Church, St. Peter Port Marriage Register
Alexander Mills, son of Alexander and Emily Webb daughter of Charles, both of this Parish were married together on the 13 July 1839
Of the children in this family, some were in the Town Church register, some only on the civil register and some in the Wesleyan Methodist register. This last register is very faint with most pages being impossible to read.
Town Church Baptism Register
Maria Emily born 24 September, baptised 19 October 1839. Sponsors: Charles Webb, Marie Webb, Cornelia Webb
Alexander Charles twin born 17, privately baptised 20 March 1841. Sponsors: Edward Webb, Alexander Mills, Mary Mills
James Edward ̎ ̎ ̎ ̎ ̎ ̎ ̎ ̎ Sponsors: James Webb, Thomas Mills, Rachel Robert
Westleyan Methodist Baptism Register
Thomas twin born 28 May, baptised 27 June 1849. Where Born: St. Peter Port Father’s Occupation: Tailor
Emily ̎ ̎ ̎ ̎ ̎ ̎ ̎ ̎ Where Born: St. Peter Port Father’s Occupation: Tailor
*Sarah Amelia born 2 March, baptised 22 April 1851. Where Born: St. Peter Port Father’s Occupation: Tailor
*this record is very faint mostly unreadable. On the 1851 census is Cornelia aged 1 month. also Walter aged 3
Civil Birth Register
Samuel 18 September 1845 Where Born: Rue Berthelot, St. Peter Port Father’s Occupation: Tailor
Lydia 2 February 1853 Where Born: New Street, St. Peter Port Father’s Occupation: Dress Maker
Charles 19 November 1857 Where Born: Pollet, St. Peter Port Father’s Occupation: Tailor
Craigt
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Huge amount of work done on our Mills roots, thanks Craig!!
And I note the W-Methodist marriage, so I am thinking Alex senior must be too??
Ahh so wonderful to have another jigsaw puzzle - really appreciate your efforts and for sharing the details.
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Hi there, do you mean the W Methodist baptisms above? I'm not sure why they got some of their children baptized there, Alexander (b. 1819) and Mary Eustace got married in the Town Church which was Anglican.
Craigt.
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Hi, looking at the Archives UK website on their records search engine Discovery you can download for free the Description Books for the 4th (later 2nd) Garrison Battalion in which Alexander Mills was enlisted. One Description Book (reference WO 25/571) has a total of 87 images, and records Alexander Mills on images 25 and 63. Both images indicate where he was born; the County, Fermanagh, is reasonably clear, but the parish is less easy to read. Can anyone else decipher this record?
Regards,
Craigt.
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just getting my copy sent through to me now; this is a remarkable search engine and record collection; here's a good link for the military topics generally
http://nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/army-muster-1730-1898.htm
thanks craig!
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OK!
image 25 –
near number 40 in margin
Alex Mills 5’3” age 27?? Fermanagh Templecarn
image 63 –
near number 4 in margin:
Mills Alexander size: 5 feet inches 3. age: year 23? Months _?
Description: Complex ? Eyes Grey Hair _?
Where born: Fermanagh (written as “ ) Parish Templecarne, Trade ? _
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Templecarn fits in with what AlisonJean was thinking in a conversation I had with her some time ago "There are a number of 'Alexander Mills' on the IGI for Templecarn parish earliest is 1800 though".
and here's a map of the parishes.
http://www.ballynagarrick.net/ulsterancestors/Parishes%20of%20County%20Fermanagh.htm
Templecarn is listed as number 20, in the upper left in area of Lower Lough Ern.
As for the very hard to read records, I hope someone is able to discern his 'complexion/hair/trade' details (and those curly numbers for his age !!)
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and just wondering if the Carne graveyard Mills family listings here are connected to our family twigs, this website about templecarne and the Carne graveyard is interesting
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/carne_graveyard.htm
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Hi, another mention of Alexander this time in WO 25/573 in Archives UK.
78 images in total, on image 54: Corporal Alex Mills inlisted (sic) 25 September 1803, appointed 25 January 1811 Reduced and discharged.
Also image 71: Alexander Mills 48, unsure what this means.
Craigt.
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Hi, found in Archives UK record WO 25/574 Image 46 of 147:
Alex Mills joined 4 Garrison Battalion on 27 January 1807 from the 27th Regiment. The 27th was called "Inniskilling" (the old name for Enniskillen) as it was originally raised in the town of that name in County Fermanagh.
Craigt.
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The Iniskillings were directly involved in Waterloo (1815, past our alex's time & involvement (and 200th anniversary this year))) but here's a great read on some background about Irish politics, religion and the demographic of the Irish men being raised for The Iniskillings http://www.napoleon-series.org/military/organization/Britain/Infantry/1-27Waterloo/c_1-27Waterloo.html
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With Alexander Mills coming from Templecarne parish in Fermanagh, I'm still chipping away at the probability he is part of the Ulster settlement period (the planters); and whether his father migrated across in those early years? Fermanagh seems to have been settled with English labour from several particular counties. i'm posting this link because it has some useful background history on that Ulster history, as well as some fermangh information and photos, and although not at this point a connection to us it is interesting.
http://www.ulster-scots.com/uploads/uscndonegal400.pdf
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Hi , I am just wondering if anyone is still active on this thread and if they have any new information regarding the Mills family?
Thanks
Jac