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Title: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: mamakaz on Thursday 30 April 09 10:31 BST (UK)


hi there, x
          i was just wondering if anyone on RC is researching the plant family,
and if there are any plants out there that can claim this family?

my grt granny was Annie Plant 1903-1984 she married Charles Bruce Aitken in 1923, i have their marriage cert which shows Arthur G Plant (platelayer) as her father, my mum has wonderful childhood memory's of visiting Yorkshire in 1960's, ill have to find the photo's,
i will be going back as far as i can with the Plant family, so if theres anyone
out there with Plant connections, come and join me,

1901 England Census
Arthur G Plant b 1870 31yrs, Charndon, Buckinghamshire,(head)
his wife Elizabeth b 1873 28yrs, Bedale, Yorkshire,
they lived in Darlington, St John, Durham 
Arthur was a platelayer N.E.R ? (would this be railway?)
Williamth Plant 4yrs son (says William on original page)
Lilian Plant 3yrs  daughter
John T Lamb 19yrs  Boarder, platelayer
......................................

then in 1911 census they were living in
East Cowton, North allerton, County Yorkshire, North Riding
Lillian Plant 12yrs daughter
Annie Plant 7yrs daughter (my grt granny)     
Arthur Plant 5yrs son
William is missing in 1911, he would have been 14yrs, would he have been
to young to leave behind? or maybe he died.

ok, hope to hear from someone, thanks for reading,

kaz, x
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: mamakaz on Thursday 30 April 09 11:15 BST (UK)
i think this could be my Arthur...

in the 1871 England Census
Arthur George Plant 1yrs b 1870/Son  born Charndon, Buckinghamshire,
dad, Joseph 30yrs b 1841 head born Charndon, Buckinghamshire
Mum, Sarah 27yrs b 1844 wife, born Twyford, Buckinghamshire
living in Twyford, Charndon, Buckinghamshire   

Joseph Plant  agricultural labourerer 
Sarah Plant 
William James Plant 7yrs/son 
Mary Anne Plant 5yrs/daughter 
Thomas Jesse Plant 4yrs/son 
Frederic Alfred Plant 2yrs/son 
Arthur George Plant 1yrs/son 
 
also i noticed on the census in the same street is...
Isaac plant 37yrs agricultural labour
Martha/wife 33yrs
Miriam?/daughter 13yrs
Diana/daughter 11yrs
John/son 9yrs agricultural labourer (at 9 yrs old?)
Samual/son 7yrs
Betsy/daughter 4yrs
Thomas/son 2yrs
Anne/daughter 2months

could be a brother of Joseph?
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: madpants on Thursday 30 April 09 17:02 BST (UK)
NER is the North Eastern Railway

Plate layers were trackmen. The term dates back to the earliest days of the railways when they were known as plateways and were built using short sections of iron bar or angle sections, rather than the rails we know today. as the photo's show, a plate layer would be responsible for all aspects of track maintenance such as replacing worn out rails or rotten sleepers, packing to ensure a level track, weeding and clearance of the drains etc.

My GGrandfather was a platelayer too  ;D
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: mamakaz on Thursday 30 April 09 17:24 BST (UK)


hi madpants, x

                      thanks, thats interesting, now i know ;D

ive found lots today, ill post in here when im finished, just incase there are plants out there, somewhere, HELLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: Danchaslyn on Thursday 30 April 09 19:10 BST (UK)

 :)


Hi Mamakaz

That's a great answer from Madpants about platelayers...........and the N.E.R.  Up here in the Highlands we have the G.N.E.R., which is the Great North Eastern Railway.

Also, one of our family, Frederick William Cook, (late 19C), of Sculcoates, nr Hull, Yorkshire, was a Railway Carm................Madpants,  is this Carman?    ???

And would you please be kind enough to share what you know a Carm on the railways is?   :o

Mamakaz, its Spring, your arboretum needs to expand, please, please, where are these plants???   ???

Cheers

Danchaslyn

 :)         *
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: mamakaz on Friday 01 May 09 19:34 BST (UK)


hi dan, x
             lol, and i need to get my peas planted ;D


ok, there is no one on RC researching plants but ill post what ive found
just incase there is anyone in the future.

Arthur PLANT,1871 in Charndon, Bucks, England
parents
Joseph PLANT b: 1841 in Charndon, Bucks., England
Sarah HODGES b: 11 MAY 1845 in Twyford, Bucks., England
Married: 24 DEC 1863 in Twyford, Bucks., England

they had 10 children all born in in Charndon, Bucks, England...

Mary Ann 1866
Thomas   1867
Frederick 1869
Arthur b: 1871
Elizabeth 1873
Herbert   1873
Kezia      1876
John      1878
Florence  1879
Edith     1881

....................

Sarah HODGES parents
Thomas HODGES b: 10 DEC 1797 in Twyford, Bucks., England
Mary RAY b: 1809 in Adstock, Bucks., England
Married: 31 AUG 1829 in Twyford, Bucks., England

they had 14 children, all born in Twyford, Bucks

Samuel   20 DEC 1829
 Sarah   12 DEC 1830
 James   22 JAN 1832
 Robert  6 OCT 1833
 William 12 APR 1835
 Thomas  10 SEP 1837
 Jesse   6 OCT 1839
 Harriett 17 OCT 1841
 Edward  19 NOV 1843
 Sarah   11 MAY 1845 
 Benjamin 27 DEC 1846
 George  2 APR 1848
 Mark    5 JAN 1851
 Thomas  23 MAY 1853

......................

Thomas Hodges parents...
Father: John HODGES b: 25 DEC 1773 in Twyford, Bucks., England
Mother: SARAH
(In 1881, Thomas was a widowed pauper, lodging with the family of Joseph and Sarah Plant
(my grt, grt, grt grandparents) in Twyford)

they had six children, all born in Twyford, Bucks

 Thomas 10 DEC 1797
 James  18 MAY 1800
 Samuel 15 AUG 1802
 Elizabeth 31 MAR 1805
 John   29 NOV 1807
 Susannah 3 FEB 1811

.......................


John Hodges parents...
William HODGES b: ABT 1743 in Twyford, Bucks., England
ELIZABETH


they had 10 children, all born in tywford, bucks...

William 6 MAY 1770
Mary    12 JAN 1772
John    25 DEC 1773
Elizabeth   15 SEP 1776
Thomas      29 AUG 1779
Nancy       21 OCT 1781
Sarah       30 NOV 1783
Jane        20 AUG 1786
Abigail      6 SEP 1789
Rebecca     13 FEB 1791
..........................

William Hodges parents...
John HODGES b: in Twyford, Bucks, England
Ann SMITH
29 APR 1739 in Twyford, Bucks., England

they had 10 children in Twyford, Bucks, ...

Elizabeth 24 FEB 1739
Ann       14 MAR 1741
William   ABT 1743
Mary    25 MAR 1744
John    27 JUL 1746
Thomas  19 FEB 1748
Catherine 3 FEB 1750
Sarah     3 FEB 1750
Samuel    3 JAN 1753
Sarah   14 MAR 1756
...........................
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: Danchaslyn on Friday 01 May 09 20:00 BST (UK)


 :)

Hi Mamakaz

What wonderful family facts you've unearthed now........!!   ;D

Lets hope that someone, somewhere, very, very soon, connected to your Plants, will rapidly get in touch with you??????     ???

Personally, I'm a rose fancier myself, but love the scent of Sweet Peas, also Freesias......please Plants, respond to Mamakaz, and get your Tree branching out.......

Cheers

Danchaslyn

 :)
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: mamakaz on Saturday 02 May 09 08:58 BST (UK)
hi Dan, xxxx

                  i love roses too but i never have any luck with them,

ok, here is what i have so far...



Joseph's parents (Arthurs Father(my grt grt grandad))

James Plant b 1816 in Charndon, Bucks,
Kesia Parker b 24 NOV 1816 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks., England
Married: 3 OCT 1800 in St.Mary the Virgin, Marsh Gibbon, Bucks,

they had 4 children all born in Charndon, Buckinghamshire, England


John 1849
Jonas 1852
Jane 1854
Jemima 1857

Martha parker nee Roberts (Kesia's mother) was staying with them in the 1861 census

.........................

Kesia Parkers parents...

Richard PARKER b 1777 in Piddington, Oxfordshire, England
Martha ROBERTS b 18 NOV 1778 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks, England

they had 8 children...


Richard 4 OCT 1801 in Piddington, Oxfordshire
Mary   19 MAY 1804 in Piddington, Oxfordshire
John   16 OCT 1808 in Piddington, Oxfordshire
Thomas  9 APR 1811 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Isaac  20 FEB 1814 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Kerenhappuck  24 NOV 1816 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Kesia  24 NOV 1816 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
William 17 JAN 1819 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks 

...........................

Martha Roberts nee Parker (Kesia's mother) parents

Richard ROBERTS b: 1746 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks,
Death MAY 1824 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks., England
Burial 15 MAY 1824 St.Mary the Virgin, Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Ann DRAPER
Married: 31 DEC 1770 in St.Mary the Virgin, Marsh Gibbon, Bucks

children...
John ROBERTS 21 JUL 1771 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Martha ROBERTS 18 NOV 1778 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks

...........................

Richard Roberts (Martha's father) parents...

Richard ROBERTS
Sarah PARKER b: 18 AUG 1718 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks,

............................


Sarah Parkers parents

John PARKER b: ABT 1680 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
MARY

they had 9 children, all born in Marsh Gibbon

Anne 7 MAY 1704
Anne 16 DEC 1705
Mary 28 JAN 1708
Elizabeth 31 JAN 1710
John PARKER MAY 1712
Martha PARKER 20 OCT 1714
Sarah PARKER 18 AUG 1718
Thomas PARKER 5 JUN 1721
Rebecca PARKER 20 AUG 1722

............................

ok, thats as far as ive got, i have gaps and missing BDM's so if any
Plants, Hodges, Parkers, Drapers and Roberts may be able to correct and/or
fill in the gaps,
thanks for reading, kaz, xxxx
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: Danchaslyn on Saturday 02 May 09 11:01 BST (UK)


 :)

Hi Mamakaz

Would send you a whole big bunch of roses, if I could, for all the wonderful work you've done on the Plants.......................and, to get  SO  far back, that is truly amazing!    :D

I'm also posting this to show you that someone is reading your thread!!!    8)

Where are current Plants?  I've asked all my family and they are going to try come up with some, that they may have come across down the years!!!!     ;D

Wonder if you placed the same Topic in England, Bucks, if you might find some actual living Plants?    ;)

Good luck to you gal.............

Cheers

Danchaslyn

xxxxx
 :)
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: mamakaz on Sunday 03 May 09 08:30 BST (UK)
hi dan, x

             i wish i could take all the credit for my plants, i managed to get back to martha (kesia's mum), then i found a bucks website, i typed in kesia parker (who married my james), and her whole family were there (so i didnt need to do any work there) same with the other maternal lines,
so i just got lucky ;D

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=hrohrer

i need to find out more about Arthurs wife now, ill have to order their marriage cert if i cant get her maiden name, i was hoping there would be someone researching plants on here, but ive found another website which i will post the family on and see if i get any luck there,

okie's, im gonna spend a few hours searching for your richard today, i must be able to find something on him, hugs kazzie, xxxx
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: Danchaslyn on Monday 04 May 09 15:10 BST (UK)


 :)

Hi Kaz

Again, I'm so happy that this side of your family's research has gone so well for you   ;D

Still can't believe that not a single Plant, nor anyone else researching this family has contacted you??    ???

Anyway, I'm longing for news of Richard  Aitken, so any news welcome, even if he did die in the 1918 'flu pandemic, as I think he may have done, which would explain his almost non existence after possibly 1891 or so, when we know, he was working as a bank clerk, possibly in Edinburgh?    ???

Isn't Kesia a lovely name?    :D

Cheers

Danchaslyn

 :)     *
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: mamakaz on Tuesday 05 May 09 16:18 BST (UK)
hi Dan, xx
               Kesia is a beautiful name apparently it is of African origin and means favourite.

im gonna take your advice and post in the Bucks forum, like you say, may find some living plants, kaz, xxxx
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: Danchaslyn on Tuesday 05 May 09 16:50 BST (UK)


 :)

Hi Mamakaz

Hmmmmm........no wonder I like Kesia, African origin!    ;D

And, yesssssss, I have a real, live, thriving Plant for you...............not A. Plant,  but,  'C.Plant',  he/she is to be found in the South African White Pages, and is living in a well to do section of Durban, in KwaZulunatal.

I could phone and ask if they from Yorkshire?????     ???

Cheers

Danchaslyn

 :)       *
Title: Re: Greenwells
Post by: whart on Saturday 09 May 09 08:35 BST (UK)
Hi
Did you ever find the origins of your Middlesborough Greenwells in Hamsterley?
I've got a lot about them and their history if you'd like it.

William
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: Danchaslyn on Saturday 09 May 09 11:52 BST (UK)


 :)

Hi Whart

William,  WELCOME   :D   to RootsChat!

Am I thrilled that you have posted on Mamakaz's "Plant" thread..........not sure though if you're asking Mamakaz, or myself about the Greenwell's?    ???

Your post must be for Mamakaz.........................   ;)

Take care

Danchaslyn

 :)
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: whart on Saturday 09 May 09 23:31 BST (UK)
Thanks for replying, Danchaslyn. I'm new to this and was trying to get hold of madpants and thought I was replying to her post.

I'll work out the best way to communicate.

William
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: Danchaslyn on Sunday 10 May 09 21:25 BST (UK)


 :)

Hi whart

William, have you tried clicking on the blue Messages at top right of the page, near your name, then once in there, you could send madpants  (don't you just love the name?!!)   ;D
a Personal Message?

Poor mamakaz is going to be SO disappointed when she returns and finds that you and I haven't been providing her with some new plants for her nursery!   ;)

Good luck with your searching     :D

Cheers

Danchaslyn

 :)
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: mamakaz on Thursday 14 May 09 14:30 BST (UK)
hi Dan, xxxx

                    ive been out of action for a while, but im back now, xx

yep, still no plants, oh well, you never know what will turn up, xx
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: Danchaslyn on Thursday 14 May 09 15:02 BST (UK)


 :)

Hi Mamakaz   xxxxx     ;)

Me to, long time, almost no computer.......will write personal email to you asap.

Need lotsa time for all the catch up with you...........! 

Cheers until little bit later. Would you like me to phone A. Plant, in Durban?   ;D

Danchaslyn

xxxx

 :)   P.S.  - What do you think of the pic, from top of mt above my little hovel?  On a clear day you can see the Firth..........if the pic was larger, you would see it also!!!    8)

Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: mamakaz on Wednesday 20 May 09 13:39 BST (UK)
hi Dan, xxxx

it looks beautiful, you are so lucky to have a veiw like that,

well, still no plants, never mind,  :'(
im cooking Lancashire Hotpot today, my old nans recipe, mmmmm
cant wait for dinner, lol
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: Danchaslyn on Wednesday 20 May 09 14:13 BST (UK)


 :)

Hello Mamakaz  xxxxxx

Yes, great views, great gales/snow/ice, beautiful, warm, sunny days, and.........no broadband      :'(

Can I come dine with you to-day, please??   ;D

What,  STILL  no Plants,  I can hardly believe it!!!!   ::)  Where are they all?  I really want to phone that A. Plant in Durban for you???????   ???

Cheers

Danchaslyn

 :)   xxxoooooo               * * *
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: limitedliza on Thursday 17 March 11 16:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Mama Kaz,

I am related to the plants, in Darlington, and still in touch with a lot of them. If its the same Arthur G Plant, Darlington, married Florence Bell. Who are the parents of my Grandma and great uncles.

Liz x[
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: Danchaslyn on Sunday 28 August 11 11:49 BST (UK)


Hi Limitedliza

Looks like this could be a breakthrough for Mama Kaz!

I'll get in touch with her personally to point her in your direction......good luck.....

Cheers
Danchaslyn
 :)
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: cati on Sunday 28 August 11 12:26 BST (UK)
I have Mary Plant, who married John  Godrich 29 Jul 1779 Uttoxeter. 

Mary was my 4xg grandmother.

I haven't investigated this line any further yet.

Cati
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: jesjess1207 on Friday 28 June 13 22:11 BST (UK)
Hi....
My 'Plants' are from Bucks in the 1700/1800's..!!
My tree is on Genes Reunited..
 :)
Sarah Plant
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: pinksharon on Tuesday 02 July 13 22:11 BST (UK)
Hi, I am looking for Richard Parker born in Piddington in 1777. He was married to Martha Roberts in 1800. Richard had a son called Richard also born in 1801 who married Elizabeth.They came from Marsh Gibbon but are later found in Great Bourton, oxon around 1871 (I think) i have a copy of the census. He is my great great great grandfather.Ive traced Martha Roberts family back to 1680 but cant find Richard Parker as I want to trace his parents.Its strange that you are from middlesex as Richard and Elizabeth were looking after a grandchild called Elizabeth age 8 born in Middlesex!Richard and Elizabeth had a daughter called Sarah who had an illegitimate child called William Shirley Parker born 1863 as was Elizabeth the other grandchild. Sarah was working as a house servant. I understand you are looking for any plants but wondered if you have any information on Richard born 1777 as Im stuck!
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: jesjess1207 on Thursday 17 December 15 22:14 GMT (UK)
Hi again..I now have a 'tree' on Ancestry.co.uk... Plants from Buckinghamshire from late 1500's up to Yorkshire in 1800's and across to Lancashire.....I would like to know how we came to be in Buckinghamshire. ..how and why did we get there...??
Sarah Plant.
Title: Re: Arthur G Plant 1870, any plants out there?
Post by: navarrom on Thursday 16 August 18 04:17 BST (UK)
Hi! I have some ancestors Plant, Middleton, Parker, Lawson, Gliddon/Gledden,... and I believe there's a connection with some mentioned.

Ernest Lawson, married to Jane Plant, b. C. 1881 in Northallerton.

Parents of Jane: John Plant, b. C. 1849 in Chardon, and Mary Hannah Gledden, b. C. 1854 in Great Ouseburn area.
 
Parents of John Plant: James Plant, b. 1816 in Chardon, and Keziah Parker, b. C. 1816 in Marsh Gibbon.

Parents of Keziah Parker: Richard Parker, b. C. 1786 in Bucks. and Martha Roberts, b. 1778 in Marsh Gibbon.

Parents of Martha Roberts: Richard Roberts, b. C. 1745 in Marsh Gibbon, and Ann Draper, b. C. 1751 in Marsh Gibbon.

Hope it makes sense  :)  The tree + DNA is on Ancestry, as well as on Gedmatch, if someone wants to compare it with theirs.