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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: DoireM on Sunday 03 May 09 23:32 BST (UK)
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Looking for relatives of three brothers who left Clunelly, Inishowen, Co. Donegal, Ireland. James Margey left in 1880. Michael Margey left in 1883. and Rodger Margey in 1889.
Their parents were Henry and Hannah (Friel) Margey and their 4 other siblings; Susan, Bernard, Mary and Patrick.
DoireM.
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Doire:
Do you already have their information from census returns (while in the States)? If not, may I ask their dates of birth, please?
I see Robert and James on the 1920 census, but perhaps you already have that information?
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Hello Lisa and thanks for replying to my request.
The information that these 3 brothers went to San Francisco came from a change in ownership of land to their brother Patrick. I do not have any information of the Census records in the States. I do not know James or Michael's year of birth but I found Rodger's bapt date which is June 5, 1864. I assume around 1860's or early 1870's for James and Michael's birth!!
Regards,
DoireM
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Someone on Ancestry has Michael Margey in their family tree.
Michael Margey, born 14 March 1862, Ireland. Parents unknown except for mother there is "Friel, Ireland."
Michael was married to Alice Bassett and they had the following children: Harry T., Bessie E., Alice Irene and Gertrude L.
Will post more in a few minutes.
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California Death Index
Michael Margey, born "Other Country", 14 March 1862
Died 18 May 1945, San Francisco
Mother's maiden name was Friel
Father's surname was Margey
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1920 census, San Francisco
James Margey, age 60 years, born about 1860, Ireland
Widow. Parent's birthplace: Ireland. Immigrated 1880. Machinist, Shipyard.
Son, Rodger J Margey, born California, age 26 years, born about 1894. Single. Parents born in Ireland. Machinist, Shipyard.
Daughter, Evelyn C Margey, born California, age 23 years, born about 1897. Single. Parents born Ireland. Stenographer, Office.
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Living next door to James Margey is:
Roger Margey, age 52 years, immigrated 1888, born Ireland as were parents, Marine Fireman, Ship Co.
Wife, Mary, immigrated 1888, born Ireland as were parents, no occupation.
Boarder, John McDeid?, age 53, immigrated 1888, born Ireland as were parents, Marine Fireman, Ship Co.
Actually, looking at the house number, they could have been living in the same house. It looks like James lived at 236B? and Roger was 236. I believe the street was 27th. I believe it was "Street" (rather than Avenue).
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1910 Census, San Francisco
Roger Margey, age 43, married 20 years, immigrated 1890, born Ireland as were parents, Fireman, Oil Works
Mary, wife, age 40, married 20 years, no children, immigrated 1890, born Ireland as were parents
Patrick, cousin, age 27, single, immigrated 1905, born Ireland as were parents, Fireman, Oil Works
Roger, cousin, age 25, single, immigrated 1906, born Ireland as were parents,Fireman, Oil Works
There were several boarders.
Address: 236 27th Street
James Margey, age 50, number of years of present marriage 21, Longshoreman, Wharf
Rodger?, son, age 15, Ship Builder, Iron Works
Evelyn, daughter, age 14,
Same birth information as previously given. James immigrated in 1885.
Two boarders.
Address: 236B 27th Street
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1900 Census, San Francisco
James Margey, born August 1858, married 11 years, immigrate 1880, Marine fireman
Wife, Celia Margey, born March 1866, married 11 years, mother of 2 children both still living, Ireland as were parents, immigrated 1884
Rodger J, son, born June 1894
Mary E, daughter, born March 1896
John Devlin, boarder, born January 1870, Ireland, immigrated 1892, Marine fireman
259 Tehama Street
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1930 Census, San Francisco
Roger Margey and wife Mary. Both immigrated 1888. Roger: Marine Fireman, Tug ? Red? Stack?
Two roomers.
236 27th Street
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http://www.jwfgenresearch.com/SFCal/6900-105.htm
Margey, dau of James....born 1896
Margey, son of James...born 1894
I don't know anything about this site, but records can be ordered.
There may be a way of obtaining the record without a cost associated with it.
Also, the person on Ancestry may be able to give you the same information.
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They are listed in the 1890 San Francisco directory here as Margy: http://www.sfgenealogy.com/php/dbs/1890sfd.php?page=869
Michael & Rodger are in the 1907 city directory here: http://www.sfgenealogy.com/php/dbs/1907sfd.php?page=527
James' son Rodger appears to be in the California death index with a death date of 26 Nov. 1940. You can see it at rootsweb.com. There's also a Patrick Margey there - perhaps that was the cousin listed above.
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Lisa,
You are an angel. Thank you for taking the time out to look up and post this amazing info. to me. I am truly grateful.
Thank you
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Hello Shellyesq,
Once again you have stepped up to help me in my research. Many thanks for helping me out.
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Hi DoireM,
I have recently put a link on the USA resources board which has San Francisco newspapers on line.
http://www.loc.gov/chroniclingamerica/index.html
You may find something on the family you are looking for .
When I quickly looked for you under Michael the death announcement was there for his wife Alice (Bassett).
http://www.loc.gov/chroniclingamerica/ndnp:548269/display.html?n=0&scope=fulltext&pageNum=1¤tSort=&mode=list
Regards
Cathy
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Hello Cathy,
This is my lucky day. Thank you so much for this information. :)
DoireM
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Hello Cathy,
On the newspapers site I found 23 items with the Margey surname. I was on the 9th article when I got closed off. I retried and got this message!! "This US Government system is restricted by law to authorized, official use only."
DoireM
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Sorry Cathy, it turned out that the site closed down for updates. I tried a few hours later and was able to access the remaining items.
Thanks for all your help.
DoireM
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I'm am a relative (Descendant) of Michael Margey.
His Daughter Bessy Margey was my Grandmother.
Bessy Married George Joseph Richards and had two Boys; George and (*).
My Father is (*). My father was named after (*)(Michael's son) who was killed on the Steamship Rockingham May 1, 1917 when sunk by a U Boat. He was one of the first US Citizens killed during WW I. My father is still with us and is the last one of his Generation.
Harry Richards married (*) and had three children. (*)(*) and myself Tim.
I married (*) and have one boy (*). Named after (*). Regards, Timothy Joseph Richards
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Hi DoireM,
Here is a link to a website that has many early California newspapers.
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=q&l=en&leqX=&oa=1&src=
If you use "advertisements" to specify what you are looking for, it will come up with births, marriages and deaths. It's a great tool for early San Francisco research!
Good luck. Sheila
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Hi Sheila,
Many thanks for the website details for California newspapers. Much appreciated.
Regards,
DoireM
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Hello Timothy,
Great to hear from you!
I am the descendant of Michael's sister Susan Margey. Michael, James and Rodger (three brothers) left Donegal and settled in San Francisco. I have done extensive research on the Margey line. I did find the newspaper clipping with details of Harry Margey's tragic death. So Harry would of been named after Michael and Susan's father Henry Margey and his wife was Hannah Friel Margey.
Thanks again for making contact.
Regards,
Marie
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Marie,
Likewise good to hear from a distant cousin. Do you still live near San Francisco?
I was born in Concord lived in Walnut Creek till 1972. I now live just north of New Orleans.
Tim
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Hi Tim,
I live in the Emerald Isle, actually about 8 miles from where our ancestors lived!
Marie
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Howdy!
I wanted to send a PM, but apparently you have to have 3 posts first...
I’m also a Michael Margey descendant and it looks like my uncle beat me to this thread.
Earlier in the thread it mentioned that Michael and Alice were in an online tree, and that might have been because of me as I made an online version of my tree back in ‘07.
Greetings from Houston area Texas!
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Hello from Ireland, delighted to hear from a Margey cousin and from Houston, Texas too. Michael and my Susanne were siblings.
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Sorry to be so late to the party! I see this thread started over a decade ago.
My grandfather Harry, that my uncle mentioned above (his dad), the grandson of Michael Margey, passed away April 2, 2018.
I'm the oldest of the 4 grandkids, 3 by my mom, 1 by my uncle.
So assembling the data, I guess we are somewhere along the lines of fourth cousins. Hopefully I can think of a good third post to make since I'd like to know additional information you may have on Michael Margey's dad, and especially if you have ancestry above Michael's parents. Before this thread, I only knew his mom's maiden name from the death certificate info.
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No don't apologise, always great to hear from cousins. So sorry to hear of your grandfather's passing. I would be delighted to share Margey information with you. I can go back two generation's from your Michael. Still Margeys''s living in the ancestral parish in Donegal, Ireland Have you done a DNA test?
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I did through myAncestry since that’s the site I’ve used since forever on the digital copy of my tree.
I got 62.4% North and West European (lots of German, especially on my fathers side) and 37.6% Irish Scottish and Welsh. I’ve got a Welsh Surname.
I was sad I didn’t get anything random on the DNA test since I already knew I was pretty German and Irish.
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I have attached a picture of Michael Margey Grave marker. I had though his brother Rodger Margey was buried in the family plot, but reading the other post above, it maybe James' son Rodger buried in the family plot since his death may have been unexpected and the plot was already established for Michael's wife Alice. Rodger death is noted 1940 at the top of stone; and that matched the date of James son's death. Michael Margey was my Great Grandfather. If anyone knows the death of Michael's brother Rodger, it may solve the question.
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I had though his brother Rodger Margey was buried in the family plot, but reading the other post above, it maybe James' son Rodger buried in the family plot since his death may have been unexpected and the plot was already established for Michael's wife Alice. Rodger death is noted 1940 at the top of stone; and that matched the date of James son's death. Michael Margey was my Great Grandfather. If anyone knows the death of Michael's brother Rodger, it may solve the question.
The Roger who died in 1940 was the son of James & Cecelia
The San Francisco Examiner
San Francisco, California
28 Nov 1940, Thu • Page 23
Obit: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/99735190/roger-margey-obit/
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James Margey died in 1939. His obit mentions his brother Michael and brother "the late Roger Margey". It appears Roger died prior to 1939.
San Francisco Chronicle
Tuesday, Sep 05, 1939
San Francisco, CA
Page: 11
Obit: https://www.rootschat.com/links/01rgw/
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The Roger in question died in 1935.
CADI: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKS9-4YWT
Find A Grave: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/112524923/roger-margey
The San Francisco Examiner
San Francisco, California
03 Jan 1935, Thu • Page 17
Obit: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/99737189/roger-margey-obit-1935/