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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Montgomeryshire => Topic started by: ElRow on Monday 21 February 05 01:29 GMT (UK)
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I have found Thomas Woosnam in 1881 and the 1901 censuses. can anyone help me find him on any other censuses please. He was born about 1842 in Trefeglwys, Montgomeryshire.
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Hi there,
1851 census - Wainlas, Trefeglwys
Francis Woosnam (41) farmer (6 acres) b. Llandinam
Hannah Woosnam (40) wife, b. Trefeglwys
Hannah (15) daughter, smock frock maker, b.Trefeglwys
Margaret (13) daughter b. Trefeglwys
Francis (10) son b. Tref...
Thomas (7) son b.Tref...
Richard (4) son, b.Tref...
William (8m) son, b. Tref...
Mary Jones (79) mother-in-law, annuitant, b. Llanidloes
1861 census
still at Wainlas
Francis Woosnam (50) farmer (12a) b. Llandinam
Hannah (45) wife, b.Trefeglwys
children - William (12), John (10), Mary (6), Charles (3)
at Cefn, Llandinam (John Meddins & family)
Thomas Woosnam (18) farm servant b. Trefeglwys
at Plasnewydd, Llanwnog
Francis Woosnam (24) railway lab. b.Trefeglys
at Tynypwll Farm House, Llanwnog
Richard Woosnam (15) waggoners lad b. Trefeglwys
Hope this helps
Stan (Brynhyfryd)
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Thank you SO much Stan for your research. It's so very exciting to find family going back so far.
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Hello Bryn---I think that's your name. Are you related to that line of the Woosnam family? The old man Francis (born 1808) was my gggrandfather. I have spent so long researching the rest of the family I haven't got round to Thomas yet. His brother John was my ggrandfather and I have some photos if you are interested.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Ann nee Kichen.
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Hi Ann
No, I am not connected to the Woosnam family - I was just responding to an enquiry from Elrow , as I had access to the relative transcribed census.
Glad to hear that your research is going well. If you need any look-ups on 1851, 1861 or 1891 Montgomeryshire censuses, please feel free to reply to this.
Good luck
Stan.
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Thank you Stan. I would be very grateful for the family on the 1891 census - especially John son of Thomas Woosnam.
To Ann, my sister-in-law, Christine was a Woosnam before marrying my brother who is a Pugh. Her father is George Woosnam and his father was John, the son of Thomas Woosnam, your ggrandfather's brother. She would love to have photos if that is possible. What do I have to do in order to recieve them?
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Thank you Stan. I would be very grateful for the family on the 1891 census - especially John son of Thomas Woosnam.
To Ann, my sister-in-law, Christine was a Woosnam before marrying my brother who is a Pugh. Her father is George Woosnam and his father was John, the son of Thomas Woosnam, your ggrandfather's brother. She would love to have photos if that is possible. What do I have to do in order to recieve them?
Hello Elrow. Thank you so much for your reply. I haven't a clue about how to get these photos to you without disclosing email addresses etc. Let me make a few inquiries as I am new to rootschat. Is your Sister in Law a member of GenesReunited? All my history is on there and it is very easy to contact people in private through their site.
Leave it with me.
Ann.
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Hello again, Elrow
Before I list the 1891 census entries, would you please confirm that your Thomas Woosnam is listed in 1881, aged 39, as a Lead Miner with Wife, Ann & 7 children, living at Hafodnen, Llangurig.
Stan
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Hello Stan
You are good to help me. Yes that is the family. My sister-in-law who lives near Swansea is the granddaughter of John, aged 8 on that census.
Eleri
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Hi again
Here we are - I've included most of what I feel may be relevant:
1891
Living at Blaenycwm, Llangurig
Ann Woosnam (44) wife, b. Llandinam
George H. Woosnam (11) son, b. Llangurig
David Woosnam (9) son, b.Llangurig
Ann Woosnam (7) daughter, b.Llangurig
Evan Woosnam (5) son, b. Llangurig
N.B. Ann is described as 'wife' not widow, though there is no mention of Thomas, her husband.
Living at Penybank, Llandinam
John Woosnam (18) farm servant, b. Llangurig
Living at Upper Glynbrochan, Llangurig
Francis Woosnam (15) farm labourer, b. Llangurig
Living at Wern, Llandinam
Phoebe Woosnam (14) domestic servant, b. Llangurig
Living at Glyn, Llandinam
Giles Woosnam (14) farm servant, b. Llandinam ??
Living at Hendre, Llangurig
Edward Woosnam (22) farm servant, b. Llanidloes ??
Living at Upper Penrhyddlan, Llandinam
Thomas Woosnam (18) farm servant, b. Llanidloes ??
N.B. not sure about this one as the age is not quite right.
Living at Brondeionin, Llandinam
Richard Woosnam (45) farm labourer, b. Trefeglwys
Annie Woosnam (41) wife, b. Trefeglwys
Mathilda Jane Woosnam (12) dau., b. Llandinam
Emily Anne Woosnam (10) dau., b.Llandinam
Agnes Selina Woosnam (6) dau., b.Llandinam
Edith Lewis Woosnam (3) dau., b. Llandinam
Osborn Woosnam (7m.) son, b. Llandinam
Living at Gilfach, Llandinam
John Woosnam (39) Road labourer, b. Trefeglwys
Jane Woosnam (37) wife, b. Llandinam
Mary A. Woosnam (12) dau., b. Llandinam
Susan E. Woosnam (9) dau., b. Llandinam
Thomas W. Woosnam (5) son, b. Llandinam
Living at Caelluast, Llandinam
William Woosnam (39) Shepherd, b. Llandinam
Mary Woosnam (40) wife, b. Radnorshire
Mary Elizabeth Woosnam (6) dau., b. Llandinam
Margaret A. Woosnam (3) dau., b. Llandinam
I presume you have the marriage of Francis Woosnam and Hannah Jones at Llandinam 15/6/1833 (from Familysearch)
I hope this is of some help. If you need any other Woosnams from 1891, or indeed 1861, please let me know.
Stan.
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Hello Elrow.
It is fascinating to see my ancestors typed out by someone on this site.
Your sister in law can contact me on
woosnam2@aol.co.uk
From there I can send her the pictures and details of the chapelyard where she can find Francis and Hannah buried.
Ann.
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Thank you , thank you all.
Stan, I have them on the 1861 census already, thanks to rootschat.
Ann. Christine will contact you. She is very excited!
Eleri
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Hello Elrow.
Sorry---just realised I have given you the wrong email address.
Must be having a senior moment---never had aol in my life!!
it's woosam2@yahoo.co.uk
Cheers and sorry.
Ann.
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Hello Elrow.
Did you get my message about Thomas in the 1891 census for England? It looks like he moved over to Salop to find work.
Thanks for putting me in touch with Christine---she sounds very excited and seems to now have "the gen bug" !!I am posting some info off to her today, she should have it by Friday morning---snail mail willing.
Cheers.
Ann. ;D
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Ann
I did get the message thanks and have passed it on to Christine. I will leave you to contact each other now. I'll get all the news from her. Thanks again Ann and thanks rootschat.
Eleri
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Hello,
I am researching the area (Ceri (Kerry), Mochdre, Llandinam) for my 3G grandmother, Sarah WOOSNAM, b 1777, Llandinam. In 1803 she married George TROW, of Ceri, by whom she had Richard (1814), Jane (1816), Mary (1820) and John (1824).
I am unable to find further details (parents or siblings) of this Sarah WOOSNAM.
Further information on the family would be most appreciated.
Thank you for your time. :-)
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Hello Siani.
I have seen George Trow mentioned somewhere---might be the IGI. All the Woosnams fit together somehow as it was quite a large family. Leave it with me, it needs a bit of digging around, in fact someone who reads this might beat me to it! How much do you know already and do you have access to the 1841 census?
Bye for now.
Ann.
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Hi there fellow Woosnams. Have quite an extensive Woosnam tree, infact 4 different ones all from Llandinam and can't link anyone of them together yet. The oldest goes back to Thurlston of Wolstenholme at Rochdale 1161. The first Woosnam in Llandinam is Edward married Jane who had a son Francis b 1719.
If anyone can help me link all these together then please let me know or if you would like copies of all the trees also let me know I can not believe in a place as big/small as Llandinam they arent all related in some way shape or form.
My direct link is
Dorothy Woosnam 1910-1991
Thomas woosnam 1866-1940
John Woosnam1832/33-1876
William Woosnam 1805
William Woosnam m 1790 then 1803.
thanks
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Hello,
It would appear that Francis was one VERY popular name among the WOOSNAMs! I have 4 generations of same, and none of them match the data you mentioned as to year of birth or spouse.
MY earliest Francis WOOSNAM was b around 1670 and married to a Susan(nah). They would be my 6G grandparents.
Have you such a couple? I should certainly like to swap what I have in this line, should we have any rellies in common.
Thank you for your time.
Siani Powys, NJ
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Hi siani no i havent got that Francis if you would like to email me your line i would be happy to look at it and email you what i have.
My email add is sarah.robinson43@tesco.net
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hey siani me again i've got a tree with your Francis 1808 on would you like it?
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Hello Craftysarah
Sorry, none of these Woosnams ring a bell with me. I'm researching on behalf of my sister-in-law who is decended from Francis Woosnam (1808) and Hannah Jones. Francis was born in Llandinam and Hannah in Trefeglwys. They lived in Waenlas, Trefeglwys.
Sorry
ElRow
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I am descended from Francis Woosnam and Hannah Jones, and would be very grateful for any info. at all. I am hoping to visit the area (I live in Scotland) in a couple of weeks, so anything you could tell me would be useful. I believe their burial site is known, but not to me!
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Hi Ruthiemary
Please forgive me for such a long delay. I stopped the family search when my grandchildren started appearing! Now five children later I dip into my search from time to time. This is my sister-in-law's search. Christine is interested and some years ago we went to Mid Wales to search for her ancestors and had such an exciting time and were very successful. Did you find Francis and Hannah's grave? We did so if you're still searching I'm happy to try to remember where we found it.
Eleri
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Hello!
First, congratulations on so many grandchildren. We have only managed three!
Yes thank you, we did find the Woosnam grave, in the chapelyard at Caerau, a few miles south of Llandinam. The chapel is now a private house, but there is a right of way through the courtyard, leading to the cemetery. I can give detailed directions if you, or anyone else, would like.
On a later visit to the cemetery in Llandinam we also found the grave of their daughter Margaret, my great grandmother. We had a lot of help from the librarians in Newtown, and from a historian who lives in Llandinam.
In all, we found the graves of four pairs of my ancestors in that small area, so I was well satisfied.
Hope we all get to hug our grandchildren soon!
Ruth.