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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Armagh => Topic started by: susie wong on Wednesday 13 May 09 11:35 BST (UK)
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searching info on harrison's co armagh.
My grandfather john harrison b 1884
siblings james 1882, isaiah 1886 & thomas 1891
parents james/margaret nee marshall.
I know they went to scotland (greenock) but when???
John married elizabeth young in ireland
sue
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hi sue,
it would be hard to find an exact date for when the family went to scotland.the best you could do would be to find a rough timescale by finding where they lived during the 1901 and 1911 census. have you found them in either one in scotland yet?
i did find james and margarets marriage;james harrison married margaret marshall,19-jun-1882,in a church of ireland in portadown. so it looks like they left from portadown but doesn't help with when.
tony
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this could be their marriage.
Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 27 Jun 1908
Groom Name john HARRISON
Bride Name elizabeth davidson YOUNG
Church Whitehouse Presbyterian Church
Parish Carnmoney
Civil District Belfast
County Antrim
regards mary.
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Hi maryderry,
possibly marriage which i've seen but doesn't state mothers name only father which is correct, so not 100% sure as yet.
regards
sue
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Hi TF13,
tried 1901 census but nothing came up, marriage is correct.
so asumme they came after 1901.
reagards
sue
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I think somewhere you mentioned a Livingston connection to John Harrison, father of James. I am also looking at Harrisons in that area and have come across something without enough details to know what is going on.
Pierce Livingston, Jr of Ballydougan died in 1860 and mentions John Harrison Jr of Lisnaminty owes him money and also appoints John Harrison as executor. Pierce says daughter Ann Jane married Joseph Davidson and is perhaps Joseph Davison married to Eliza (Ann or Jane) Livingston in records. The other person who borrowed money from him is David England who may be the one with a Davison wife. I think he loaned money to relatives.
John Jr 's known children were James b abt 1858 and Henry b abt 1854 baptized at Knocknamuckley where John d. 1885 @71 and wife Sarah d 1898 @81 are buried. There is a fair chance this is your James. Sarah appears to have moved off the farm after John's death as the land does not appear in her name. Possibly a death certificate could tell you whom she was living with.
The PRONI land records show John Jr name crossed off his land leaving John Sr. However when a father died and a Jr had a son with the same name, Jr became Sr. So I would carefully look at the records and civil death records. John Sr, was b 1787, married Margaret b 1796 and had Elizabeth b 1823, John Jr. and possibly Valentine b. abt 1823.
The other executor is George Somerville from my line and he, Pierce, and John,Jr Harrison appear to be farmers with probably sizable amounts of land and money. You might look to see if the Davisons were related or if Scottish Harrisons had money at first. Livingstons at Seagoe were posted on-line, but i don't see a Harrison connection.
The Henry Harrison who appears in Lisnamintry in the census is the illegitimate son of Margaret Malcomson whom she had by a Henry Harrison of Ballygargin, she claimed. Her brother Joseph left him the home. No idea which Henry is involved.
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theres a James Harrison with a wife Margaret as his widow on the calendar of wills and administrations in Aughnagurgan co Armagh death 1895,his widow is at 23 and 28 Aughnagurgan in 1901/1911 ages 60 and 73, there are children in their 20s and 30s living with her all single,but the children mentioned above are not mentioned,any conn ection?.
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I think that is Margaret Nesbitt. She and James married in Monaghan in 1859. James had father John and children Margaret Jane b 1875, Samuel b 1871, Susan b 1875, Agnes b. 1877, Robert b 1872, Thomas b 1867, William b 1864, and James b 1880 and perhaps a few more.
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Hi KatC
Wow what a lot of info to take in.
As i dont have any info regarding my 2 x great granfather John Levingston Harrison i cannot help on that matter, i got his name from my great grandfather marriage cert (james Harrison) who married margaret Marshall in 1882 lurgan Co Armagh.
John Harrison b 1884 Ballyhannon Co Armagh(my grandfather), married a Elizabeth Davidson Young in 1908 Belfast, so i can see where you think there maybe a connection regarding Davidson.
They went to scotland (Port Glasgow/Greenock) as i found them on the 1911 census (scotland)
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Did you find Elizabeth Davidson Young or her parents in the 1901 census?
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Dathai may be onto something. James Harrison and Margaret Nesbitt were married in Muckroe, Monaghan.
When looking at Whitehouse families,the only Harrisons I saw were Hugh Harrison and siblings. A search on Charlotte and Robert made it clear that Robert Harrison and Charlotte McKean were parents and then they were also married in Muckroe, Monaghan.
John's brother Thomas is said to marry Martha McLean which sounds very much like McKean. These are a lot of coincidences.
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Found Elizabeth Davidson Young on the 1901 irish census.
Living at 22 Factory St (Whitehouse) Antrim with her parents Isabella/James & a sibling Margaret, Elizabeth known as Lizzie age 16
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As a wild guess that is Isabella MCAteer of Ballymena possibly with father Alexander and a Presbyterian family. She marriaed a James in 1864 and James married an Isabella then. That doesn't help decide if John Harrison is Presbyterian. The Monaghan Harrrisons often were and most Lurgan area ones were not.
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The PRONI land records show John Jr name crossed off his land leaving John Sr. However when a father died and a Jr had a son with the same name, Jr became Sr. So I would carefully look at the records and civil death records. John Sr, was b 1787, married Margaret b 1796 and had Elizabeth b 1823, John Jr. and possibly Valentine b. abt 1823.
HELLO anyone still reading this POST ? ? Contact me at my hotmail pls: (*) Please see reply # 17. John & Margaret Harrison are my 5th Great Grand Parents. Mark
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Hi Mark
Not sure if my Harrisons are the same family, could you give me any more info about them
Thanks
Sue
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Hello Susie Wong, I'm not very good with this website. Can you email me on my hotmail address please (*) Please see reply # 17.
I rarely use these types of sites due to lack of success and confusion with searches. John & Margaret Harrison are my 5th Great Grand Parents, I am not sure of their first daughters name I think it may have been Sarah. On my first message to you I included the chunk from on of your messages at the beginning. Valentine and Elizabeth were born twins and baptized in 1823 (Elizabeth is my 4th Great Grandmother). On my Fathers mothers side from 1790's till today the family name has only changed twice ...not bad in this modern world.
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To fill in details, Valentine and Elizabeth were baptized in 1823 at Seagoe's COI church by John and Margaret of Lisnamintry. Elizabeth was baptized Oct 13, 1827 by the same couple. John Jr. 28, a farmer in Lisnamintry with father John married Sarah Macoun 28, a farmer with father James of Moyraverty July 31, 1851 at Seagoe. There is a death/burial record at Seagoe of Margaret of Lisnimintry June 23, 1865 aged 71. A Lisnamintry Harrison family was listed in Knocknamuckley's 1857 census: John Sr. 70 farmer,. Margaret 61, and Elizabeth 24. The Malcolmson families following the Harrison listing mention that Henry Harrison (no location and there were several people of that name at the church) sired a baby by one of their daughters. A gravestone at Knocknamuckley lists John Harrison of Lisnamintry dying Nov 26, 1885 @71 years and wife Sarah dying Aug 10, 1898 @81 years.
Possibly important are the records of John and Margery of Drumnagoon having Rachel in 1801 and John in 1803 which sounds far too early. Henry Dynes Harrison baptized Nov 21, 1814 and Sarah were baptized on Sept 2, 1816 by a John and Margaret, but no location was given. My Seagoe records omit sections of dates, so there may be more information available at Seagoe. A Sarah was listed in the 1879 Seagoe census as having son Richard Robinson living with her in Lisnisky, A Sarah who might be unmarried died in 1900 @ "69."
John born to weaver James and Margaret was born in Ballyhannon as stated, and Isaiah in Levaghrey. Thomas was born in Edenderry where James was a factory worker per Seagoe records.
Interestingly Pierce and Mary (Sergeant) Harrison married in 1834 (no details) are also in Lisnamintry having Letitia 1835 and William John in 1837. Pierce is living in Moyraverty when Letitia married.
With dates off so much, it is hard to say which facts are related, but perhaps family members can specify more locations and names involved.
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Hello Guys,
I did another on the spur internet search which i do randomly because as time goes by more and more content becomes available online.
My 4th Great Grandmother is Elizabeth Harrison born and breed in portadown not sure of her exact birth date but I can confirm Great, Great, Great, Great Grandma Elizabeth along with her TWIN brother where both baptised in 1823 (I have this confirm in writting).
The twins had a big sister and I believe her name was "Sarah Harrison" NONE of the children had middle names. Their Mother and Father are "John and Margaret Harrison" married 1796 in Portadown.
Since 1796 my family name up until my birth (1967) had only changed twice;
1796 - Harrison
1800's - Wilson Not sure exact year (very strong male line)
1939 - Mitchell
As the family of John and Margaret Harrison grew up they slowly moved from Portadown, N.Ireland to Banbridge and then onto Belfast where the bulk of the "Wilson - Mitchell" still live.
John and Margaret Harrison were farmers - don't know what they grew just know they were farmers, in Portadown.
If anyone has any paperwork I would be glad to have a peep. Oh I see the mention of Scotland as far as I know the family never moved there - BUT Valentine lived and worked in Scotland part of his life and also spent a large chunk of his working life in New Zealand, he died on a sinking ship.
That's it for now - Probably best to email as I rarely use this site: (*)
Mark Mitchell 04:12 Saturday 30th January, 2016
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Dear Sue Wong,
I have read your posts on your Harrison ancestors in County Armagh and Down. I am very interested. I have been researching my Harrisons of Down, Armagh, Monaghan, and Cavan. I am not sure whether or not you and I are related, but I have a lot of info. on the Harrisons in those areas. I can send you charts of the various Harrisons you have mentioned and let you connect the dots. Or we can together connect your family to the info.
I have just joined Rootschat so I can post to you, but not sure how this all works. Since you have not posted for two years, here is my e-mail address, but you have to smoosh it together. Also change at to @
PKLJDL AT gmail.com
Polly Lynn
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On 27 June 1908 at Whitehouse Presbyterian Church, in the Parish of Newtownabbey, County Antrim, John Harrison of Clydebank Scotland married Elizabeth Young of Whiteabbey. Both groom and bride were Presbyterian, full age, and previously unmarried. He was a laborer. Fathers were James Harrison and James Young, both laborers. Witnesses were James Elliott and Margaret Young.
Notes say that the bride was Elizabeth Davidson Young. Note that on the wedding day the groom is already of Scotland. So he was there before June 1908.
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Hi Polly
I need to look at my notes re the Harrison's as I haven't done anything for a while will get back to you
Sue