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Title: Can anyone read this? William Brown Jeffrey. Horse Accident.
Post by: *sparkle* on Thursday 14 May 09 15:12 BST (UK)
It is an extract from William Brown Jeffrey's death certificate listing cause of death. So far I can read:

Fracture of the skull
and concussion(?) of the
brain caused by ??
?? ?? violent?
?? stone wall
by a horse while engaged
?? ?? deceased
?? ??
hour after the accident as
certified by Geo Henderson
surgeon ?? ??
deceased shortly ??
died 5th March 1859 and
was present when he died

Can you help me fill in the gaps? SP have already kindly re-scanned it so it must be a very poor original image.
Just a shame the parents/wife aren't named as I'm not 100% sure it is my man....

Thanks
Tx
Title: Re: Can anyone read this? William Brown Jeffrey. Horse Accident.
Post by: mothball on Thursday 14 May 09 15:25 BST (UK)
Wow, quite a piece.

I have just had something deciphered by the other section I would paste it there.    My grandfather suffered a contusion of the back, which meant a bruise.  I would guess his brain was bruised.  Sorry have not the eyes for the rest do post it here though.  Or make a link and post there too.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,425.0.html

Good luck

Steven
Title: Re: Can anyone read this? William Brown Jeffrey. Horse Accident.
Post by: suegill on Thursday 14 May 09 15:32 BST (UK)
Fracture of the skull
and concussion(?) of the
brain caused by deceased
being dashed violently
against stone wall
by a horse while engaged
in breaking horse deceased
expired in about an
hour after the accident as
certified by Geo Henderson
surgeon ?? ??
deceased shortly before he
died 5th March 1859 and
was present when he died

Sue
Title: Re: Can anyone read this? William Brown Jeffrey. Horse Accident.
Post by: Evie on Thursday 14 May 09 15:38 BST (UK)
Following on from Sue

contusion

dashed or clashed

surgeon to (hernsgate??) who saw deceased.....

Evie
Title: Re: Can anyone read this? William Brown Jeffrey. Horse Accident.
Post by: *sparkle* on Thursday 14 May 09 15:47 BST (UK)
I forgot about the other forum!  ::) But have posted a link now so thank you!

Thanks Sue and Evie, that was quick :)

I think this is what we have so far:
Fracture of the skull
and contusion of the
brain caused by deceased
being dashed/clashed violently
against stone wall
by a horse while engaged
in breaking horse. Deceased
expired in about an
hour after the accident as
certified by Geo Henderson
surgeon to Hernsgate? who saw
deceased shortly before he
died 5th March 1859 and
was present when he died.

Think we are almost there. Thank you very much!
Tx
Title: Re: Can anyone read this? William Brown Jeffrey. Horse Accident.
Post by: JenB on Thursday 14 May 09 16:17 BST (UK)
.....Geo. Henderson, surgeon, Chirnside.....??
Chirnside is a village in the Scottish Borders  ??
Title: Re: Can anyone read this? William Brown Jeffrey. Horse Accident.
Post by: sancti on Thursday 14 May 09 23:49 BST (UK)
Image won't open for me but if it is from SP they will give you a full transcription if you contact them

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/faqs/questions/index.aspx?240
Title: Re: Can anyone read this? William Brown Jeffrey. Horse Accident.
Post by: gerryfarrell on Friday 15 May 09 08:26 BST (UK)
Could the last part be "Surgeon to the inspector??"
Title: Re: Can anyone read this? William Brown Jeffrey. Horse Accident.
Post by: Evie on Friday 15 May 09 09:19 BST (UK)
Still not sure about surgeon to?? yet but had another read and I think it says breaking it in rather than horse :-\

Title: Re: Can anyone read this? William Brown Jeffrey. Horse Accident.
Post by: Evie on Friday 15 May 09 09:59 BST (UK)
.....Geo. Henderson, surgeon, Chirnside.....??
Chirnside is a village in the Scottish Borders  ??

I think you are right having looked at it again and again :)

In 1861 Scottish census there is a George Henderson living in the civil parish of Chirnside occupation, Gent Bacto Of Medican , whatever that means, never come across that description before.

Added: 1851 Census George described as Surgeon, Licentiate Of The Royal College Of Surgeons, Edinburgh
Title: Re: Can anyone read this? William Brown Jeffrey. Horse Accident.
Post by: mike175 on Friday 15 May 09 10:49 BST (UK)
Hi,

I see all the hard work has been done but, for what it's worth, I believe it is 'concussion' with a long 's' followed by a short 's'

Fracture of the skull
and concussion of the
brain caused by deceas-
ed being dashed violent-
ly against a stone wall
by a horse while engaged
in breaking it in. deceas-
ed expired in about an
hour after accident as
certified by Geo. Henderson
Surgeon, Chirnside who saw
deceased shortly before he
died on 5th March 1859 and
was present when he died.

Title: Re: Can anyone read this? William Brown Jeffrey. Horse Accident.
Post by: *sparkle* on Friday 15 May 09 13:03 BST (UK)
Wonderful stuff! Thank you all for your contributions, its appreciated! Especially to confirm George/Chirnside as a surgeon.

I didn't know sp did transcriptions, will bear that in mind for the future.

Thanks again!

Tx
Title: Re: Can anyone read this? William Brown Jeffrey. Horse Accident.
Post by: gene-genie on Friday 15 May 09 18:25 BST (UK)
Have you thought to try and find George on the 1861 census?

As a surgeon he might be a member of the Royal College or a graduate of Edinburgh Medical School.
Title: Re: Can anyone read this? William Brown Jeffrey. Horse Accident.
Post by: Evie on Friday 15 May 09 18:45 BST (UK)
.....Geo. Henderson, surgeon, Chirnside.....??
Chirnside is a village in the Scottish Borders  ??


In 1861 Scottish census there is a George Henderson living in the civil parish of Chirnside occupation, Gent Bacto Of Medican , whatever that means, never come across that description before.

Added: 1851 Census George described as Surgeon, Licentiate Of The Royal College Of Surgeons, Edinburgh

Great minds, think alike :)