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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Dumfriesshire => Topic started by: norsk77 on Wednesday 20 May 09 23:54 BST (UK)
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Does anyone know any church's in HOWES? or are they all based within ANNAN?
Thanks
Jon
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there is a farm just as you go into annan named howes csc
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Hi
There are one or two farms in the Howes at Annan and on the Low Road towards Cummertrees there are one or two more. They are all numbered from one and my pal lives at Number 5 which is along the road to Cummertrees. I lived in that area for many years and as I am from a farming background knew a number of the farmers. Who are you looking for?
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The Howes was a big farm until the end of the first world war when, like many others throughout England and Scotland, it was split up into small holdings for the returning farmer's sons and farm workers who wanted to farm for themselves. Unfortunately they were too small to support more than one couple and their young family and so the children had to find work elsewhere. It did provide a stepping stone for quite a few people who moved on to bigger farms. I'm not really sure of which parish it was in as it could have been Cummertrees or Annan.
An uncle of mine farmed one of the holdings between the wars but the house on that holding has been pulled down and rebuilt as a bungalow and the farm buildings have disappeared as the land was taken over by another small holder.
Hope that helps
Boswells
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Thanks for all that information.
I have solid evidence of the Kerr's ( kers) being farmers there, thanks to csc for the information on the grave yard esp Francis Ker died 4/01/1778 aged 71. I have been in touch with the Archieves section in Dumfries and hopefully will pay a visit this summer to have a look round Howes.
Jon Kerr
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Just found out that Francis Kerr was born Francis Carr as I have just found the marriage certificate between Henrietta Johnstone who is also buried next to him. This has given me alot to go on now.
Thanks
Jk
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4 children for james ker and margaret pool on igi elizabeth 1791 william 1774 henrietta 1769 janet 1772 there is also a henrietta kerr marriage to a thomas ewart in annan in 1802 csc
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1891 census scotland at post office gretna green francis 77 registrar isabella 34 daughter mary a kerr daughter csc
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1881 census george ker farmer north howes 5o marcer wife 38 james a ker 15 janet 12 john t 9 william 6 marcer j 4 agnes m 2 1901 george 77 marcer 56 john 26 marcer 23 maggie 21 csc
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1851 richard ker druggist at home at howes 1861 druggist master 1 apprentice king st castle douglas 1891 richard 60 margaret e j wife 57 agnes o 25 wilhelmina 24 margaret jane 22 william 20 chemist assist john d ker law apprentice jemima 16 robert d 15 aranteena 14 1901 still at annan bank stranraer john d is a solicitor richard is 70 csc
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marriage in annan feb 8th 1797 john rogerson in croftheads and jenet kerr in howes in this parish were lawfully married csc
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marriage in annan 11/11/1828 james pool farmer croftheads and margaret kerr howes were lawfully married they have quite a few children also there are rogersons working there i look at them when i come from work these pools and kerrs are well connected csc
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Someone has placed a family tree on rootsweb - which contains the KERR/POOL's/BELL's and other surnames they have interlinked the KERR's very well with evidence.
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=:2870033&id=I570519786
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death annan january 4th 1869 agnes kerr widow of william ker farmer 78 years butts street annan father looks like james halliday mason dec. margaret halliday/ms robson natural decay margaret pool daughter present csc
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annan old burial ground in memory of margaret robson spouse to james holliday of watchhill who died 22nd september 1837 ages 72 years and elizabeth their daughter dies18th october aged 18 years also james their son who died 5th november 1809 aged 5 years and james their son who died young also the above james holliday mason who died 7th december 1844 aged 84 years and james holliday his son who died in north street the 18th october 1854 aged 2 years and 10 months and ellen his daughter who died at closehead the 11th october 1865 aged 18 years these last mentioned must be grand children csc
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annan old parish church in memory of janet pool spouse of james rogerson in north street who died 22nd february 1822 aged 44 years and jame their son who died in infancy also john their son who was drowned at fort mobile in south america 12th december 1825 aged 24 years and heneraeta their daughter who died 8th march 1840 aged 25 years also the above james rogerson who died 30th april 1857 aged 90 years also james their son who died may aged 65 years also james their son who died 7th december 1871 aged 16 years this might be a grandchild csc
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birth in annan june 12th 1749 mary lawful daughter to frances kerr and jannet rae in howes henrietta died in 1745 so he must have had another family csc
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last time i see francis born 1814 is in gretna 1891 his 2 girls isabella and mary ann are in 38 crossgate fife in 1901 occuption art needle work they have a servant mary ann warwick if francis died between 1891 and 1901 still in gretna his death could be registered in carlisle csc
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death annan march 27th 1904 george ker farmer married to mercer thomson 80 years north howes annan father william ker farmer dec. mother agnes ker/halliday dec. cerebal apoplexy witness james a ker son james is a farmer at outerford which is further along the road nearer brydekirk with other members of family csc
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cummertrees churchyard erected as a testimony of conjugal affection by janet johnstone to the memory of james rodgerson who died at croftheads 9th september 1807 aged 84 years also above janet johnstone his spouse who died there 26th may 1812 aged 81 years also john rodgerson their son who died there 10th february 1814 aged 49 years also janet kerrhis spouse who died december1827 aged 56 years csc
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Hi csc, Re Janet Bell/george Imrie - my 3xgreat grandmother/father. I have some information on ayrshire gibson/imrie . i am new to this forum and dont seem to be able to send pm in reply. is this the right place to swap info??
cmg414
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marriage in annan 11/11/1828 james pool farmer croftheads and margaret kerr howes were lawfully married they have quite a few children also there are rogersons working there i look at them when i come from work these pools and kerrs are well connected csc
I have ancestors who were Pools and Kers from The Howes, Annan. James Ker (b. 1811 and Elizabeth Pool (b. 1821), to be exact. Do you know anything further about these people. As far as I can make out James' father was William (b.1774) and mother was either or both Agnes or Nansy Holliday. Would love some help with any of these please.