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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Topic started by: nwestbury on Tuesday 26 May 09 00:28 BST (UK)
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Hello,
Do you have a Westbury (+ variants) surnamed individual in your family tree? If so I would be really interested in hearing from you. I am researching and compiling a complete family tree of the Westbury surname as it occurs around the world. Any donations of documents / photographs / stories are welcome for individuals belonging to this group. The intention is to create a common resource for all with links to the surname. If you wish to contribute to or benefit from this research then please get in contact.
I have already finished building a baseline from which to test and confirm for all immediately traceable Westburys across the UK (Approx 2700 individuals from 1841-1901 census plus UK Indices). There are approaximately 400 records unassigned from the UK census, however the bulk 6000-7000 census have been assigned to likely candidates pending confirmation. 15-20% of the tree is currently confirmed.
Variations include: Westberry, Westbery, Westbury, Westburry, Westberie, Westborough, Wesbury, Wes(t)prey (not stable surnames).
Regards,
Nick Westbury
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Hello: I don't have anything to really add to your research, but you mention that you have a baseline built. I am looking for medieval Westbury's in Somerset. Do you have any information? I have one John Westbury who married Alice Carent, circa 1420?
Thanks so much for your kind response.
Sue
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Hello,
I'm still working my way through the 1700s for all the different family lines. However there are two John (De) Westburys that spring to mind in the 1400s. Both are on Wikipedia and one is referred to in the National Archives as John the elder and other John the younger. John the younger was an MP for Wiltshire and was not surprisingly the son of John the Elder. This family has connections to the Somerset area also. But I'm not sure either of these are the one's you are looking for.
You want this book, as it outlines some of the family history and might cover details you want (I haven't read it myself yet so can't confirm):
The History of Parliament: House of Commons, 1386-1421 By J. S. Roskell
Also:
A History of Wiltshire, R B Pugh; Elizabeth Crittall; D A Crowley; University of London. Institute of Historical Research.
Also in the 1400s it was common for the surname 'De Westbury' - as a place name, it is also possible that it changes if the family moves to a new manor.
Sorry I can't be of definitive help to you at the moment. I will continue to work my way through the history and hopefully in a few years might be able to answer that question!
Regards,
Nick Westbury
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Hi Nick:
Thanks so much for your kind reply. I only just started working on this family, so the sources that you have suggested are new to me. I shall order them straight away. I will also send you anything that I find on it when I get it worked out.
From what I have been able to gather the Westbury's were fairly prominent in the 1400's. in Somerset and Wiltshire. This prominence seems to follow the general vein that I have been seeing in the family groups who surrounded them.
I will get back to you . . .
Sue ;D
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Sue,
Thank you and happy to help! ;D
That Westbury family is linked to the Hungerfords somehow and to Salisbury Cathedral and Castle Coomb.
The Demesne Lessees of Fifteenth-Century Wiltshire: By j N HARE
Mentions:
"But below this small group of lessees was a
group of men who, although they were not
described as gentlemen, cannot usefully be
called peasants. They were men of substance
and standing beyond the boundaries of the
village where they leased the demesne. The
steward of the manor, for example, was a
freeman of more than parochial standing who
was capable of maintaining the lord's judicial
rights. But they were also to be found acting
as lessees, as with John Westbury at Kingston
Deverill 45 and Thomas Terrante at Enford. 46
In addition, members of the baronial households
also acted as lessees, so that on the
Hungefford estate the lessees included the
receiver-general (Gregory Westeby at
Winterbome Stoke) and the stockman (John
Clayden at Sutton Veny).47
Footnote 45 WRO: 192/32. The Westburys were an important local
gentry family. J L Kirby, The Hungerford Family in the later
Middle Ages, (unpublished MA thesis, University of
London, 1939) appendix D; Victoria County History of
Wihshire (hereafter VCH), V, 1957, p 34; J S Davies (ed)
Tile Tropenell Cartulary, Devizes, 1908, passim.
A William Westbury was also the first head master and saviour of Eton collage. There is a lot attached to the surname in the 1400s and 1500s. But we have to be very careful as it is most definitely a place name based surname, we have to be careful when interpreting documents.
Regards,
Nick
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HI Nick:
I am running across so many names in my study who seem to be related on some level to the Wesburys. The Hungerford's seem to have been important to during the Lancastrian period, and I am finding more than one line of the family who seem to be coalescing together during that period. If I am reading things right, they were against Richard III. I am still trying to get a handle on all of this history.
Many thanks for sending me this information. I will send you what I have found very soon, after I spend some time digesting it. . . As you said, we have to be careful. I found quite a bit of information on the British History web site.
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Hi Nick:
Here's some information I'd like to share. It comes from British History Online.
What was later called the manor of WEST ASHTON consisted in 1340 of two properties. Thomas Langford held of the abbess a house and 2 carucates which later passed to William Don. (fn. 19) They were settled on Don and Katharine his wife in 1388, (fn. 20) but a few years later Don's brother John complained of the breach of an agreement that he should have the reversion of the estate, for William and Katharine had sold it to William Stourton. (fn. 21) Stourton was summoned to do fealty for the lands in 1411. (fn. 22) The other part of the later manor was held in 1340 by John Oysel, and consisted of a house and 2 virgates. (fn. 23) They passed to John Westbury the elder, who held lands in West Ashton in 1412. (fn. 24) In 1449 William Westbury, grandson of John, died holding them. (fn. 25) Soon after this the property must have passed to John, Lord Stourton, son of the William Stourton who had bought the Don property.
Cheers,
Sue
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Sue,
Many thanks for that. William Westbury is the same one as the Judge (died circa 1448/49) and was buried at Westbury church.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_de_Westbury
William was a Bishops Bailiff of New Sarum (of which the Hungerfords and the Longs also held this post) and a judge.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bailiff_of_Sarum
People, including myself, are trying to build a biography of the Westburys on the first link above. Please share all you find with me and we'll edit and expand those biographies.
Regards,
Nick
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Nick:
I have been going at the Westbury research through the back door via my Carent family. I found some amazing books that might be helpful to you and the group who are researching them.
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=66492&strquery=carent
This page has Gouvis, Strangeway, Carent and others Cary
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/25000/25000-h/25000-h.htm
http://www.archive.org/stream/historyofnobleho01mowb#page/154/mode/2up/search/carent
Carent, Stourton, wadham Gillingham, and more GREAT BOOK.
It seems that William Westbury turned over some of his property to my William Carent. His daughter Alice Carent, married John Westbury, who was either his son or his brother. Still unsure at this point.
Cheers,
Sue
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Extremely interested in obtaining an English transcript of William's Will
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No kidding! I just found where we might find it. Do you have access to Sir R.C. Hoare's "Westbury"? It's on pg. 16 ;D
http://www.archive.org/stream/wiltshirearchaeo10arc#page/316/mode/2up/search/westbury see pg. 316 here. Nick, if you get a copy, would you please send me a copy too? I was checking with the Somerset R.O. today, but I don't think they will be responding until next week.
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http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=6M5Hu95Ru3MC&q=%22william+westbury%22&dq=%22william+westbury%22&lr=&cd=15
Like to get my hands on this text - only a snippet view at the moment.
Text snippet:
"The other William FitzWaryn was father of Catherine, wife of William Westbury, one of the justices of the court of the from 1426 to 1449. They had a son and heir, John Westbury, father of Agnes. She became sole heir on the death of her brother, william westbury, under age, and without issue. On the death of her mother Alice in 1482, ... , wife of john newburgh, agnes was wife of Robert Leversege"
Now I think there is an error in there. Since there is a court record placing Agnes the wife of Robert Leversege as the daughter of William Westbury (Judge). Agnes seems to be the sister of the John Westbury - not the daugther.
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Nick:
For some reason, I am able to get the whole book. I know that sometimes my colleague in Wilts can't see things that I send to her. So if you can't see them, send them to me and I will tell you what they say, or try and send you a copy of it. Watch your email and I will try and copy and past the page to you.
Sue
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:o ;D :D
UNBELIEVABLE, you have made the day here for me Nick. Here is a transcription of that page. If there is more that you want me to look for, just let me know!
"William was son and heir of John Fitzwaryn of Aston-in-Monslow, Salop, and he died in 14 Hen. VI. 1436, leaving a daughter and heir Alice, then aged twenty-four years, and a wife of John Gerald. The other William Fitzwaryn was father of Catherine, wife of William Westbury, one of the Justices of the Court of King’s Bench from 1426 to 1449. They had a son and heir, John Westbury, father of Agnes. She became sole heir at the death of her brother, William Westbury, under age and without issue. On the death of her mother Alice in 1482, then wife of John Newburgh, Agnes was the wife of Robert Leversege."
This solves my problem! I hope it did something to help yours as well.
Sue
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Sue,
see note above. I am not convinced that Agnes was the daughter of John, she is recorded as the daughter of William in a court record.
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I know! But at least part of it solves the problem. I do think that we need to go back and check the wills for both. If I can get them, I will let you know. I was a little wary of Agnes being John's daughter too.
Sue
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Scope and content
Robert Leversegge and Agnes his wife, daughter of William Westbury, justice of the King's Bench. v. John, son of William Paston, late justice of the Common Pleas, feoffee.: Lands, &c. in Westbury: Wilts.
Covering dates 1454-1455
Availability Open Document, Open Description, Normal Closure before FOI Act: 30 years
Held by The National Archives, Kew
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATLN=7&CATID=-2408369&j=1
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Hi Nick:
Yes, I had been seeing that too, and noted that we need a better explanation. We're not quite there. Where are you located? I know that the wills may be at Someset R.O. I found some clues that led me there. I wish the TNA had them, and I could download them now, then this whole mystery may find some closure. Do you happen to read Latin?
Sue
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That book by R. C. Hoare:
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=qbdiPwAACAAJ&dq=%22r.+c.+hoare%22+westbury&cd=1
I can't access page 16 - William's Will.
Can you?
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I can't access it either. Sorry. :-[ Got to go for now. Will check back later.
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I know it is cheeky. but I'm wondering whether you can help me out with these two snippits please?
http://books.google.co.uk/books?lr=&cd=3&id=9sULAQAAIAAJ&dq=%22william+de+westbury%22&q=%22william+de+westbury%22#search_anchor
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=z1dnAAAAMAAJ&q=%22william+westbury%22&dq=%22william+westbury%22&lr=&cd=6
Pieced it together from the Snippets - took 3 hours!
"Page 326
Nicholas Carent clerk, otherwise dean of the cathedral church of
Welles, and John Chafyn, and to give them seisin of a moiety
Of the manor of Orchardley; as it is found by inquisition, taken
On Thursday after St. Matthew, 28 Henry VI, before John Tyler
Then escheator, that William Westbury the elder long before his
Death by charter dated Berkeley, 12 January, 24 Henry VI, gave
that moiety to the said Nicholas and John Chafyn and to
Robert wheler of Boxe, their heirs and assigns, to the intent that
When William Westbury the younger should come of age, they
Should by charter make a grant thereof to him and the heirs of
His body, with reversion to themselves, their heirs and assigns
To perform the last will of William the elder, that the grant was
Made fraud and collusion to defraud the king of the
wardship of that moiety and of the marriage of William the younger
That the said moiety is held in chief by the service of the twentieth
Part of one knight’s fee, and that William Westbury the
Younger is cousin and heir of William the elder, and it is found
By another inquisition taken 8 June last, before Henry Flaxby
Then escheator, that William Westbury was seised of the said
Moiety, and held the same in chief by the service aforesaid,
and by charter (as above) gave the same to the said Nicholas and John and
to Robert Wheler now deceased, their heirs and assigns to the intent etc."
Calendar of the close rolls preserved in the Public Record Office--Henry VI, Vol 6. 1454-1461
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=F_8WAQAAIAAJ&q=%22and+John+Westbury,+junior,%22&dq=%22and+John+Westbury,+junior,%22&lr=&cd=1 - John Senior (Grandparent of the John you're interested in)
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Hi Nick:
Not cheeky at all. If we all help one another, we'll get the job done faster and with better results. I always dislike working with people who don't want to share, or help, but will always be happy to take your work. That's not me. :D
I was only able to see the first link on your list. Here is the transcription.
>>Report of the Royal Commission on Historical Manuscripts, Vol. 3 By Great
Britain. Royal Commission on Historical Manuscripts pg. 355.
"Grant by John, son and heir of William de Westbury, to John de Fyfhyde, Chaplain, and Vicar of the Church of Wells, of a vacant place in the street of Southovere, in Wells, 17 Edward III., in Latin. The seal left.
Gift by Mabel, widow of William de Westbury to her son, William of a messuage and cartilage in Southovere in Wells, situate between the messuage of Gervase le Hunte and the tenement of William Fellard, he rendering years 8 pence to the chief lords of the fee 6 Edward II.; in Latin. The seal is left.
Gift of John, son of William de Westbury, “boucher” butcher of Wells, to John de Fyffhide, of 8 pence silver of yearly rent arising from a tenement in Wells, situate in Southovere, between the tenement of the Prior of St. John, at Wells and the tenement of Richard Bradwell, with the reversion of the said tenement after the decease of Juliana, his mother, 20 Edward III.; in Latin. The seal is lost.
Release by John, son of William de Westbury to Sir John de Fyffhide, of his interest in two now selds [or open shops], and 8 pence of yearly rent, from a tenement in Southovere, in Wells, between the tenement (as in the preceeding article), with the reversion of the tenement after the death of Juliana, his mother, 20 Edward III.; in Latin, The seal gone."
If you see any others that I can help with, feel free to send them. I might be able to get last one from a friend of mine. I will ask.
Abstracts of feet of fines relating to Wiltshire, 1377-1509
By John Lavan Kirby
Item notes: v. 41 - 1986 - 248 pages
pg 64
Sue
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Sue,
Found a Nicholas Carent, Clerk. See the modified reply above yours.
Nick
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Holy Hannah Nick. ::) How on earth did you piece the above transcription together with snippets? I didn't think the danged things ever changed. . . You are amazing. ;) Thanks! I have something for you today, too. My friend in Wilts has the Feet of Fines page that I couldn't see. Here is the transcription.
Feet of Fines, pg. 64
11 Henry IV
256/59/27
302. Oct. of Mic. (Made morrow of Ascension, 10 Henry IV) JOHN WESTBURY, senior, WILLIAM WESTBURY and JOHN WESTBURY junior, pl; John Waspayl, son and heir of William Waspayl, def. Manor of Smallbrook (Smalbroke), Wilts, and manor of Hartley Westpall (Hertele Waspayl), Hants. Right of JOHN WESTBURY, senior, pl.’s by gift of def.; remise and quiteclaim to pl. (Warranty.) Cons. 300 marks.
290/61/146
303. Three weeks from Mic. John Fastolf, esquire, and Millicent his wife, pl.; John Kirtelyng, parson of St. Mary’s Long Strattor (Longstratton), and William Ilketishale, clerk, def. Manor and advowson of Bentley (Benteley). [ I think this is an incomplete entry, so we need pg 65. to see it all. ]
~END TRANSCRIPTION~
SUE's NOTE: John Fastolf, was involved with the Scrope family who were seated in Castle Combe for centuries. Fastolf improved Castle Combe but apparently was a bit of a dictator after he was able to seize control of the village. I am also studying the Scropes in conjunction with the Newburgh family. John Scrope married John Newburgh's daughter Isabell. It was an arranged marriage when they were children. John Scrope was first promised to the earl of Warwick's daughter, [Neville the Kingmaker] but it fell through. John didn't continue his marriage with Isabel, and married someone else.
All these people seem to become a nucleus of intrigue when it comes to politics and power. Fastolf, tried to deprive John Scrope of his inheritance, which in 1467 was assigned by wardship to John Newburgh. John Scrope was under age at that time. Millicent I believe was his mother and first the wife of his father Stephen Scrope. His father died in 1467 and his mother in 1472.
William Carent was the “steward” of Castle Combe. William Carent was the father of John Newburgh's second wife Alice Carent [John Westbury, being her first husband]. There is still much to work out about the families, but as you can see all these people had complicated relationships with one another. It is amazing that it would all come together on this page. ;D
Sue
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Thank you! Using the information you've provided above to chase another thread of the story, I've found this snippet, can you access?
http://books.google.com/books?id=SjMtAAAAMAAJ&q=%22steward+of+castle+combe%22&dq=%22steward+of+castle+combe%22&cd=6
Footnote 4:
"4. In 1429 they, with John Kyrtlyng, were the feffees of Sir John Fastolf during his absence abroad; Westbury was steward of Castle Combe (ibid., p198)."
What does this relate to? And which Westbury? 1429 - Suspect that to be William Westbury. Who were the other feoffees of Sir John Fastolf?
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http://books.google.com/books?id=he7gAAAAMAAJ&q=%22But,+following+the+practice+of+the+period,+William+Westbury+senior+had+%22&dq=%22But,+following+the+practice+of+the+period,+William+Westbury+senior+had+%22&cd=1
Seems to have more clarity in the following record on the Westbury family. As ever, I can't access it! Page 184.
"by 1424 Walter and Margaret Syleveyn were holding on half of the manor of Orchardleigh, and William Westbury, a judge, who owned much property in..."
"On the Death of William Westbury in 1449, his moiety passed to his grandson also william, a minor, who was entrusted to the guardianship of Nicholas Carent, dean of Wells, and his brother, William of Toomer. William Westbury died at Toomer in 1454, still under 21, leaving his aunt, Agnes wife of Robert ...[Leversegge]... "
"But, following the practice of the period, William Westbury senior had "
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I tried to access this link for you, but I couldn't get in either. However, I have a fabulous link for you that will give you the long and the short about Fastolf. Sounds like he was a bit of a control freak.
Here it is:
http://books.google.com/books?id=mi-5bX7dygMC&printsec=frontcover&dq=castle+combe+history&ei=xTyUS8mXJ4aYlQSvvfxc&cd=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false
Have fun with this one. You will be reading until next week. I will now try and see the other link that you were interested in. As for your other questions, I think the answers will be found n this book. Let me know what you think.
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Nick:
I can't see a darned thing on Notes and Queries Vol. 31. There are others online that I CAN see, but they aren't helpful to this subject. We need to find another source, i.e. library in the UK or in the US who has a good selection of these publications - digital or otherwise. Have you looked at the Library of Congress in the U.S.? How about these?
http://www.odl.ox.ac.uk/
http://www.academicinfo.net/histuklibrary.html
http://www.lib.cam.ac.uk/digital_image_collections/
The above were three are some I havent explored yet. I will be checking them out in the next day or two to see how useful they are.
The other thing that we could do is order certain pages from interlibrary loan. That's how I get a lot of information.
Where are you located? If you are able to get to London easily, have you considered checking with the College of Arms? I am not sure how helpful they will be, but it's an idea.
Sue
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Hello. I have "Westberry" in my family tree. (Georgia, USA) Of course, the names I have are from the 1800s. It looks like you are really working much further back. Are you interested in what I have?
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Here's a bit of what I have in outline form. (Just the males)
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Westberry Chart of Male Children in Georgia (All from Moses)
Moses
A. Josiah 1798/1802?
1. Milton 1823ish
a. Isaiah 1854
b. Josiah 1853
c. William B. 1856
d. Milton Thomas 1859
e. Howell 1864
2. Charlton 1826
3. John Moses 1830
4. Moses Josiah 1839
a. Milton J 1869
5. James Randall 1845
B. Noah 1804
1. Richard 1835
a. John (twin) 1879
b. William (twin) 1879
2. Noah Jr. 1837
3. Caleb 1841
4. Joseph S. 1845
5. J’athan David 1845
6. John Josiah 1848
a. Robert Lee 1864 (of 1st wife)
b. Joseph 1872 (of 1st wife)
c. Lawrence Wootson 1888
d. Carey Lester 1890
e. Stafford Quinton 1894
f. Gordon Frederick 1897
g. Ollie Otis 1902
7. William Madison 1852
a. William Ezra 1878
b. David Marion 1882
c. Joshua Monroe 1884
d. John Howell 1886
e. Caleb Madison 1888
f. Oscar Milton 1894
g. Richard Clinton 1896
C. Moses Jr. 1806
D. Jarod 1810
1. James Madison 1836
a. William Fennon 1854
b. Berry 1855
c. James Robert 1857
d. John 1862
e. Mitchell 1870
2. William S. 1840
E. Joseph 1820
F. Rabon 1820
1. Simon 1843
2. Moses 1845
3. Rabon Jr. 1847
4. Manly 1851
5. Elbert 1852
6. John 1856
G. Richard Ferman 1826
1. Joseph Stewart 1846
2. Jared William 1849
3. Joseph 1854
4. John Riley 1856
5. Ferman Jr. 1866
6. Noah Herman 1867
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Thanks so much for the kind offer. My Westbury's end in England in the 1400's, however, I am sure that someone on this thread would love to know more.
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i know of 2 towns called wesbury one is westbury wiltshire witch is on the edge of slasberey plane the othere is wesbury on trym that is now located as a suberb of bristol glos
i know it is a bit of usless info for ya
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Hello,
The family name Westbury/Westberry/Westborough originates from the usage of a placename stating origin. It has both pauper and rich land owning routes, which are in fact different genetic families. A number of places called Westbury exist. These include:
Westbury - Wiltshire
Westbury - Shropshire
Westbury - Somerset
Westbury upon trym - Gloucestershire
Westbury sub mendip - Gloucestershire
etc...
Not only had towns and villages given families the Westbury surname, but so has property. An example of this is the Westbury Manor in Kent, Now burnt down, generating a well off Westbury family that seemed to survive for a period before disappearing. other examples include the barony of Westbury, Lord Westbury, which is currently held by a Bethell family. other anglocisations of other nationals from other countries have also occured in both the UK and English speaking ex-colonies such as Canada, USA, Australia, etc... This includes converting such names as, for example: Westburg. Also other places have been called Westbury, such as Westbury in New York. This confuses the tracing of the origins of this surname.
There have been a number of movements of the name. As such, a pauper line can be seen to originate from the Gloucestershire and Bristol area, a rich family line covering the Wiltshire and Gloucestershire area, migrants into London from the European continent have taken / been given the Westbury family name, such as Germans and Swedes. Also after the second world war Jewish migrants took the surname and settled prodominantly in London. Further to this, freed slaves have taken / been given the Westbury surname as their own. All this has broughta multi-ethnicity to the Westbury / Westberry surname. Both free and forced migration has taken the Westbury surname to every continent on the planet, with sizable populations in America, Australia and Africa. The total population carrying the surname stands at roughly 15000 people world wide, making it both interestingly diverse and rare.
Nick westbury
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Great info Nick!! I can see that you have been exceedingly busy lately.
Cheers,
Sue
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Sue,
haven't been as busy as I normally would! Just tying up loose ends on the near term history. I haven't found much circa 1400s / 1500s recently. Will try to get back to it all soon! Hope your rsearch is going well?
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Hello, gosh what a confusing site!!!
I am looking up my tree of WESTBURYS and am upto about 250 going back, prodominatly from the West Midlands area but just found one distant uncle that moved to Yorkshire in the late 1800's and created a tree there.
I am on facebook and hve a WESTBURY FAMILY INFORMATION group which i would be happy to share with others researching the name. Its easier to upload photos and stuff on there (no disrespect to RootsCHat).
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Hello:
I went to Facebook to see your site and it wasn't listed as you have advertised i.e. WESTBURY FAMILY INFORMATION group. What I did find was "Westbury Family Tree Information Group UK" with a notice "This group is scheduled to be archived over the next few months, Facebook will be archiving all groups created using the old groups format. When this group is archived, its wall posts, photos and discussion threads will move to the new groups format, but group members will need to be re-added." It seems all web sites have their little idiocyncracies, but I think when you understand rootschat a little more you will enjoy it. It is very comprehensive in it's scope, and the threads never disappear like on Facebook, and it is always searchable via the general Internet.
I am interested in the John Westbury who was married to Alice Carent. Specifically, I would like to find his will or IPM if possible.
I would be interested in your group, if it is the one noted above rather than the title that you gave on your reply.
Cheers,
Sue
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Yes my mistake it is the "Westbury Family Tree Information Group UK".
I am surprised about the message you say facebook have attached to it, will look into that. What year was your John Born then, there are a few on my tree with a few i have not partners of.
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I am not sure when John was born, but he died around 1448. His brother was William Westbury who sat as Justice of the King’s Bench (1426-1445). He possessed the manors of Boes, Lady Court, Berkeley, and Fayreoke, plus other large holdings in Wiltshire and Somerset. Both brothers were dead by about 1449.
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Nick: Are you still out there monitoring this thread? If so please reply. Sue
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Hi Nick,
I have been looking for my English ancestors, I have found John Westbury born Gloucestershire England 1824, apparently emigrated to Australia around 1864, setup a 130 acre farm in Leeches Gully outside Tenterfield NSW around 1869 married Hannah Hoult in Tenterfield some time in 1866, had 2 sons John and Richard. John Westbury died 1894 and was buried in Tenterfield Cemetery.
I would like to find out about the Westbury family, why John, who was a farmer in England, would want to sail to Australia 1864 a rather dangerous adventure for a man of 40 years of age? Was he disinherited or as a younger child did he receive little or nothing from his father?
Cheers Grahame Westbury Tumbi Umbi NSW Australia
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nwestbury was last active on Rootschat 25 Oct 2010
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Hi
Can Nick Westbury somehow receive my post re: Westbury families as he has not been active for 8 years? Can the administrator facilitate this please?
Kind regards
Grahame Westbury
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Hi
Can Nick Westbury somehow receive my post re: Westbury families as he has not been active for 8 years? Can the administrator facilitate this please?
Kind regards
Grahame Westbury
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Hi Nick,
I have been searching my Westbury family in UK... I have got back to 1756 with Henry Westbury's birth but cannot find his parents.....? So far I have the following....Henry Westbury born 1756 England, married Mary Page 1780 in Highworth Wiltshire, Died 1834 Eastleach Turville, Gloucestershire, England. Son, Thomas Westbury born 2 February 1800, married Ann TUFFLEY on 17 Oct 1821, Eastleach Turville, Gloucestershire, died 8 January 1832 aged 31, Ann WESTBURY was buried 21 April 1860 aged 50. Son, John Westbury Born 1824 Eastleach Turville, Gloucestershire, England, John Westbury baptised 11 July 1824 Eastleach Turville, England, married Ann Kilmister at Highworth, Wiltshire, Sept 1856. They had a daughter Cassandra. They emigrated from Liverpool to Sydney, Australia on the ship "Castilian" 16 June 1858. Cassandra Westbury died, her death registered at Raymond Terrace district, NSW 1858. Ann WESTBURY died 1873, AGE 55 YEARS in TENTERFIELD NSW. John Westbury married Hannah Hoult in Tenterfield in 1876. Hannah Hoult was originally from London, England. John Westbury, Farmer, died Tenterfield 1894 aged 70 years. They had a son John Westbury born 1876, married Annie Elizabeth Collins in Tenterfield. John died March 1936. They had a son, Harold Jack Westbury born 15 July 1916, married Joan Patricia Brandes 1942. Harold died March 2005 in Hornsby. They had a son, Grahame Paul Westbury born 26 June 1945, married Lynette Ellen Fox, 25 Nov 1972 Top Ryde Sydney. They had two sons Grant Paul Westbury born 2 December 1975 and Mark David Westbury 8 January 1978. Hope this assists your Westbury Families search. If you can find anything to find the parents of Henry Westbury 1756 I would appreciate it. Regards Grahame
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So much effort searching for the past when you don't make any effort with those who are alive. Sad.
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Hi Throwback2,
Sorry about the negative view of family searching, it does not mean we do not cherish and love those still alive and enjoying life! Not so sad!
Cheers Grahame
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Grahame,
I think it's great you have so much family history and want to know more! Ignore miserable people like Throwback. It's impressive you have such wealth of information of your family going so far back to 1700s. I only wish I could go that far back. Good luck with your search!
Susie
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So much effort searching for the past when you don't make any effort with those who are alive. Sad.
Having only made this one post, Throwback2, that's rather an unkind comment. Please read the T's & C's, which are particularly important for beginners, and you will see that Rootschat does not allow members to post details of living people! It's simply a matter of respecting their privacy on line!
"Any members who post details of living people, may have their posts removed or edited by a moderator,
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Hi Sue,
Thank you for your encouragement, not concerned about Throwback2.
Cheers Grahame
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I'm a Westbury and my paper trail dates back to Moses Josiah Westberry of Sumpter, South Carolina b.1722 d.1864. I have a FTDNA match (67 Markers) with a James Westbury whose earliest ancestor is Edward Westbury of Anyho, Northamptonshire England b. 1807. Does anyone have this connection? I have done extensive DNA research (BigY 7000) in the Westbury family as well if anyone would like to e-mail me
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