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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Staffordshire => Topic started by: CConingsby on Wednesday 27 May 09 11:46 BST (UK)
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Could anybody out there offer some assistance? I've been trying to trace some ancestors from Stoke on Trent but have reached a gap between the 1841 census and the parish records CD which I ordered but it only goes up to 1812... don't really know what to do, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanx
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Hi :)
Post the names and dates you have - some-one on here may be able to help ;)
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Have you tried the IGI,?
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you may be able to find some ancestors via the tithe maps which began circa 1836
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Hi and welcome to rootschat.
You cansearch the IGI, as suggested, by going to the familysearch site. G**gle for familysearch.
Let us know how you get on... and don't forget what Mum said in the earlier post here- if you give some names and dates maybe someone can help .
charlotte
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Hi there,
Well I tried the fmily search and found JOHN HAWLEY - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 27 JAN 1792 Rugeley, Stafford, England
But I'm not sure how I can find out if this is the John Hawley that I have from my family tree as being born in 1792 in Longton..
John Hawley is the father of the main person I am interested in - Felix Hulme Hawley, b abt 1820, m 1844, d 1891. It would seem most of Felix's life events occured in Longton / Fenton as did the birth of all his children.
Thanx all for your suggestions, please keep them coming!
C
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Hi C,
If your John Hawley was alive in 1851 the cenus would show where he was born and this would rule in or out the IGI entry you found.
charlotte
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This looks like Felix's birth
IGI extracted
Felix Hawly
born 9 Sept 1819
christened 3 oct 1819
Bethesda Chapel, Albion St methodist new connexshe, Shelton Staffs
parents
John Hawly
frances Hulme
Suz
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Well done Suz.... loooks like a good start there.
charlotte
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Hi,
Have you found Felix's baptism? The IGI has a baptism for Felix Hawly, son of John Hawly & Frances Hulme on
3 Oct 1819 (noted as born 9 Sept 1819) at Bethesda Chapel Albion Street-Methodist New Connexshe, Shelton. Shelton is near enough Longton & Fenton to be a possible location.The IGI has several Hawley (only Felix has no "e") baptisms at this chapel between 1816 & 1833.
If John was baptised in the Church of England in the area this would have been Lane End at the time:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/STS/Longton/StJohn/index.html
Some records are on the IGI, but not for the date you're suggesting. You may find the "Hugh Wallis" listings & search of the IGI helpful
Home page:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm#PageTitle
and Staffordshire page
http://www.rootschat.com/links/06ev/
Finally, if you're able to visit either Stoke or Stafford, the archives have some relevant registers on film/fiche - or you can order through a local LDS Family History Centre
http://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/leisure/archives/
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This looks like John 1861 census ,Blythe bridge....
John Hawley head age 69 coal propiertor born longton
Frances wife age age 65
Robert Hulme Hawley son single age 29 manufacturer of earthenware
Fanny dau' single age 25
Agnes dau' single age 23
George Hulme Hawley age 29 Solicitor.
RG9/1952/34/page 16..
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Do you want Cenus info' on Felix?
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Thank you all so much, for pointing me in the right direction, I have managed to track the family back through the census to 1841 and that was how I'd calculated Johns birth year, I'm still a little confused over the place names, never having been to Stoke.. are Fenton, Longton, Shelton, Blythe bridge all villages or are they just areas within a town? I've tried looking at old maps but it's all a bit confusing.
thanx
C
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Hi again,
Here's a link to a 1775 map of the area
http://www.thepotteries.org/photos/map1775.htm
If you follow the large road (Meer Lane) that runs almost into the bottom right corner it goes past Land End & Longton then Fenton. Shelton is a bit to the north, under Handley Green roughly in line with Newcastle.
This is a link to Streetmap, centred on Shelton, for the modern version
http://www.rootschat.com/links/06ew/
As you will see it's all more or less "joined up" now into one urban area.
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Stoke on trent is made up of 6 towns, Stoke,Longton,Fenton,Hanley,Burslem and Tunstall.
They must have been doing nicely to haved move to Blythe bridge..
http://www.blythebridge.org.uk/
http://www.thepotteries.org/ Have a look at these to get a "feeling" of the places :)
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http://www.thepotteries.org/people/indexh.htm Frederick Hulme Hawley...
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http://www.thepotteries.org/people/hawley_geo.htm George this time..
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http://www.rootschat.com/links/06ex/
Kellys directory 1932...
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http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/robertburden/Mouldspits/mpits.htm scroll down mid-way..
My Dad and his brothers worked at Mossfield pit....
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Felix is buried with wife Charity and a son John in Longton Cemetery. http://www.rootschat.com/links/06ey/