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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Wexford => Topic started by: Cog on Tuesday 02 June 09 10:18 BST (UK)
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I have found my Great Grandparents on the 1911 census ;D
There address is down as Castlehill Street, South Wexford, Parish of St Michaels of Fiagh, ward St Mary's, Dist Electoral Div Wexford WO2 Urban.
I cannot locate a Castlehill Street and wondered if anybody could help...
I know there is a Hill Street, which has a castle at the top of it which houses the council offices ......
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I put Castle hill street wexford into the search engine and it comes up under 'Buildings of Ireland' and is also called' Kevin Barry street.
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Thanks for the reply :) will try that now although when I googled it could not find anything, interesting that Buildings of Ireland came up. Will take a look ...thanks
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Castle Hill street & Kevin Barry Street are the common names for this street - the latter was to be the official one but like so many such intentions in Wexford the people rebelled by deciding not to change.
This and many other streets will feature in my book The Streets of Wexford to be published later this year in aid of The Tracie Lawlor Trust for Cystic Fibrosis.
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Thank you so much for your reply. I have a description of the house my Great Grandfather lived, it said it was brick built, with a slate roof, they had 5 rooms and 4 window at the front of the house. His occupation was a coach driver. I would like to find out if it still exists but dont have a door number yet. I would be very interested in buying your book when it goes on sale. Thank you again
Carol
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Carol
Maybe I missed it but what is the name of the person you are tracking?
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Hi
the family are
Patrick Furlong coachdriver born 1864
Mary Furlong 1866
Patrick Furlon 1894
Mary Furlong 1896
Christina Furlong 1895
Maggie Furlong 1899
John Furlong 1900
Mark Furlong 1903
Charles Furlong 1905
My grandmother Annastacia Furlong was at this time in Dublin, her sister Molly was not living at home at the time of the 1911 census. Havn't found them on the 1901, but will look when I go to Wexford in July.
Carol
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I would like to find out if it still exists but dont have a door number yet.
According to the online 1911 Census, they lived at No. 12 Castlehill Street.
Maybe I'm mis-reading the Census or I misunderstand your question.
Dara.
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I would like to find out if it still exists but dont have a door number yet.
According to the online 1911 Census, they lived at No. 12 Castlehill Street.
Maybe I'm mis-reading the Census or I misunderstand your question.
Dara.
The Furlong household has no house number in the 1911 census- 12 is the number on the form.
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these references are plot number (or site numbers) and generally match up with the reference numbers used originally by Griffiths Valuation.
In many cases these were used as house numbers in Cities and Towns in later years.
Griffiths shows a Castle Hill in Wexford, which looks to be the same address and it contains 17 houses (the 1911 Census has 18)
Griffiths link : http://www.rootschat.com/links/06g0/
I'd say it's possible that the '12' reference followed through from Griffiths in 1853 to the 1911 Census as far as today.
It may be possible to check into this using the map feature on the askaboutireland site
do anyone know how many houses are on Castle Hill today ?
Shane
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Thank you for the correction aghadowey.
I was under the same impression as Shane prior to making the above post.
Dara.
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Forget numbers.
I know of one address in Castle Hill Street that was actuall 45 Kevin Barry Street.
There were never 45 houses there.
Nicky
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There were 8 Furlongs killed in ww1 in the army and the navy. None as far as i can ascertain was from Castlehill.
Regards.
Tom.
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Thank you all so much for your input. I had seen the no 12 but realised this was a reference no, or plot no. Nicky to find a no 45 when at the time of the 1911 census there were only 18 houses is quite frustrating really. So it is possible that the no 12 could have been used as the door number as far as today is concerned ?!
Enfiled, I have Furlongs on both my Fathers side (Castle Hill) and also my my Mothers side (fro Broadway). Broadway Furlongs did have a Furlong who served in France WW1, I have his Reg papers and medal rolls, confusingly enough for me ....this man was also Patrick Furlong ! ???
Wondering if a visit to the library in Wexford when I travel there might be able to help ?
Carol
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You are very courteous, thank you.
Here are the Furlongs for your reference. They will appear in the 'Wexford War Dead' to be published next November.
FURLONG, EDWARD. Rank: Corporal. Regiment or Service: Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery. Unit: 38th Bde. Ammunition Column. Age at Death: 41. Date of Death: 30-July-1915. Service No: 15932. Born in Taghmon, Co Wexford. Enlisted in Wexford, Ireland. Supplementary information; Son of John and Annastatia Furlong of Foghmon, Co. Wexford; husband of Elizabeth Furlong of 48, Slievekeale, Waterford. Served in China ( 1900 ) and in the South African Campaign. Grave or Memorial Reference: I. G. 3. Cemetery: Poperinghe New Military Cemetery in Belgium.
FURLONG, JAMES. Rank: Private. Regiment or Service: Royal Dublin Fusiliers.
Unit; 2nd Bn. Date of Death: 30-March-1918. Service No: 18527. Born in Piercestown, Co Wexford. Enlisted in Wexford while living in Redmondstown, Co Wexford. Killed in Action. From an article in a Wexford newspaper; Mrs Furlong, Talbot Street, Wexford, received news from the War Office on Thursday last, that her husband, Pte James Furlong, R. D. F., had been killed in action on March 30th. Pte Furlong volunteered in January 1915, and had been in France since May of that year.
From an article in the Free Press, 1916; Private James Furlong, son of Mr James Furlong, Redmondstown, Johnstown, is serving with the Royal Dublin Fusiliers. He had been employed in Johnstown Castle, and after the outbreak of war he joined the colours. He has been in the trenches for over a year, and on his return to his native district a couple of weeks ago, when he was on a brief furlough, he was congratulated by his many friends on his survival of the many big encounters in which his regiment figured.
Grave or Memorial Reference: VIII. G. 2. Cemetery: Heath Cemetery, Harbonnieres in France.
FURLONG, JAMES. Rank: Stoker. Regiment or Service: Royal Naval Reserve. Unit: H. M. S. "Indefatigable. ". Age at Death: 21. Date of Death: 31-May-1916. Service No: 5241S. Supplementary information; Son of Gregory and Margaret Furlong of Yoletown, Ballycullane, Co. Wexford. During the Battle of Jutland the German Battlecruiser Von Der Tann fired 11 inch shells at the Indefatigable. The first two entered ‘X’ magazine area and blew out the bottom of the ship and she began sinking by the stern. More 11 inch shells from the Van Der Tann destroyed ‘A’ turret and also blew up the forward magazine and she then sank. There were only two survivors of her crew of 1017 men.
The Van Der Tann was scuttled in Scapa flow in June 1919. From and article in the Enniscorthy Guardian; Sergeant Thomas Furlong. Sergeant Thomas Furlong., Royal Welsh Fusiliers, was in Cardiff when the war broke out, and volunteered at once. He rose rapidly to the rank of Sergeant, and is at present engaged in one of the English Camps training the new recruits. He is a son of Mr Laurence Furlong, Yoletown, Ballycullane. Grave or Memorial Reference: 19. Memorial: Plymouth Naval Memorial UK.
FURLONG, JOHN. Rank: Gunner. Regiment or Service: Royal Garrison Artillery. Unit: 320th Siege Bty. Age at Death: 32. Date of Death: 15-December-1918. Service No: 31273. Supplementary information; Son of Francis and Mary Furlong of Wexford; husband of Elizabeth Jane Furlong of Rose Villa, Alfred Parade, St. James. Bristol. Grave or Memorial Reference: 819. Cemetery: Mikra British Cemetery, Kalamaria in Greece.
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And;
FURLONG, JOSEPH, A. Rank: Lieutenant. Regiment or Service: U. S. Medical Reserve attached to the British Forces. From an article in the People, 1918; Lieut, Joseph A. Furlong of the U. S. A. Medical Reserve, attached to the British Forces, nephew of Mr Clement Furlong and Miss Agnes Furlong, Lough, Duncormack, who was also lost in the disaster. Lieut, Furlong, was eldest son of Mr Michael Furlong, formerly of Lough, now at St Louis, Missouri, U. S. A. He joined the Medical Reserve Corps of the U. S. A. Forces and was returning to take up his duties with his regiment after spending a short time in his fathers native district which he visited for the first time. The remains were removed from the 5th hospital, Arbour Hill, Dublin, and were conveyed to Wexford on Monday night by the seven train, the American flag enshrouding the coffin, and were received by a guard of honour of armed American sailors, his Worship, the Mayor (Ald, W. H. McGuire, J. P. ) wearing his chain of office, and eighteen members of the corporation, a large selection of the general public, and some members of the police force.
They were borne from the mortuary van by members of the Major Redmond Memorial Committee. The funeral proceeded to the Church of the Immaculate Conception was a particularly sad spectacle. On reaching the Church the remains were received by Rev, Thos, Hore, Adm, and at the close of the ceremonies Mr Frank Breen, R. I. A. M. played the ‘Dead March in Saul’. On Tuesday after 10 o’clock Mass was offered up for the repose of his soul, the internment took place at Carrig-on-Bannow when there was a very large attendance of sorrowing friends and the general public. Rev, Thos, Hore. Adm, recited the prayers appropriate for the occasion before the remains were taken from the Church, and Rev, M. O’Sullivan, P. P. received them at the cemetery.
The flag at Bannow Coastguard Station was at half mast. At the cemetery the U. S. A. detachment fired three volleys, and the Last Post was sounded. The chief mourners were—Messrs Clement Furlong, Lough, Duncormack (uncle), R, Murphy, Airhill; D, Scallan, Lough; Stephen Corish, Ballingly; Raymond Corish, Taghmon; P and T Furlong, Lacken; Philip Keating, M. C. C. ; Mrs Corish, Lough; and Mrs Scallan, Lough (cousins).
Lieutenant Furlongs remains were identified by his uncle, Mr Clement Furlong, and his cousin, Mr R. P. Corish, amongst 149 victims of the disaster. It was Lieutenant Furlong’s intentions to return to Lough in a few days to spend the remainder of his holidays with his relatives.
FURLONG, L. Rank: Staff Sergeant. Regiment or Service: Royal Army Ordnance Corps. Unit: Ordnance Advanced Depot. Age at Death: 28. Date of Death: 04-August-1920. Service No: S/6942. Supplementary information; Son of William and Mary Furlong of Clongeen, Foulksmills, Wexford. Grave or Memorial Reference: VIII. F. 9. Cemetery: Baghdad ( North Gate ) War Cemetery in Iraq.
FURLONG, MICHAEL. Rank: Private. Regiment or Service: Royal Irish Regiment. Unit: 2nd Bn. Date of Death; 15-October-1917. Service No: 4468. Born in St Marys, New Ross, Co Wexford. Enlisted in New Ross. Died. Grave or Memorial Reference: V. J. 13. Cemetery: Niederzwehren Cemetery in Germany.
FURLONG, WILLIAM. Rank: Gunner. Regiment or Service: Royal Marine Artillery. Unit: H. M. S. "Defence. " Age at Death: 24. Date of Death: 31-May-1916. Service No: RMA/12643. Supplementary information; Son of Anastasia Furlong of Crandaniel, Barntown, Wexford and the late John Furlong. H. M. S. Defence was an armoured cruiser and was sent to the bottom by the Naval guns of a German battlehip during the battle of Jutland. There were no survivors. Grave or Memorial Reference: 21. Memorial: Portsmouth Naval Memorial UK.
Click on this link for a photo of James;
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a40/clondaleek/193.jpg
Regards.
Tom.
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Hello Tom
Thank you so much for the military information, it must have taken ages to type. Its very much appreciated.
Carol
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Glad to help.
Regards.
Tom.
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Hi
the family are
Patrick Furlong coachdriver born 1864
Mary Furlong 1866
Patrick Furlon 1894
Mary Furlong 1896
Christina Furlong 1895
Maggie Furlong 1899
John Furlong 1900
Mark Furlong 1903
Charles Furlong 1905
My grandmother Annastacia Furlong was at this time in Dublin, her sister Molly was not living at home at the time of the 1911 census. Havn't found them on the 1901, but will look when I go to Wexford in July.
Carol
Hi
Maybe a long shot but I saw your post while I was searching the Forum. We have an Annastacia Furlong in our family who was the sister of my grandmother. I don't have a lot of info a the minute as I've been focusing on finding information on my grandfather.
I'll have to give my parents a call to find out a bit more info.
Do you have any more info?
Cat x
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Hi Cat
thanks for the message. I am actually lucky to have found what little I have as my grandmother died quite young age 47 when my dad was just 13. He never spoke of his family or relatives in Wexford. All I have is that Annastacia was born in in Wexford, the family lived in Castlehill Street (Kevin Barry St). Her Father was a coachman. Her Siblings are as named. She went to Bray in County Wicklow to work in a large house as a domestic where she met and married my grandfather James O'Grady in 1912 in Rathdown. they moved up to Dublin in the same year and lived in Drommond Avenue in Sandymount Dublin, they lived there for a short while then moved to a house nearby also in Sandymount....no 2 Seaforth Villas. My Grandfather was manager of a nearby shop, and then a gardener. Annastascia died of a brain bleed, she actually collapsed in the street in 1947. Would be great if you did have any information as I never knew any of my Dads family.
Carol
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HI Cat
missed a bit ....usually do ! there was another sibling named Annie Furlong, she also moved up to Bray at some point. There were also 3 other siblings but I havn't found out their names yet, I need to get a cop of the 1901 census to find out who they were.
Carol
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HI Cat
missed a bit ....usually do ! there was another sibling named Annie Furlong, she also moved up to Bray at some point. There were also 3 other siblings but I havn't found out their names yet, I need to get a cop of the 1901 census to find out who they were.
Carol
Hi Carol
Thanks for the reply.
It was the name Furlong that got me going as my grandmother's sister married a Furlong and because the name Annastacia is quite unusual I thought they may be one of the same.
The info I have is Annastacia died in 1966 aged 59 and lived at 19 Antelope Road, Maudlintown, Wexford. So I'm reckoning it's not the same person. Murphy was her maiden name. I'm not sure how many brother's and sisters she had but she defo had a sister called Mary as Mary married my grandfather James Murphy.
Sorry if I've not been of much help. It really is needle in haystacks isn't it?
Cat
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HI Cat
Seems there not related eh ? yep its like a needle in a haystack....at first anyway, keep going though you will eventually find loads of needles....good luck
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Hi Cog
Not sure if you're still trying to identify the exact house your Furlong relatives were living in but bear in mind that the enumerator would have walked along the road handing out the forms to each household in a methodical way. He would have started at one end of the road and worked his way to the other. The first handed out is schedule no 1 and so on until the last household - No 18 at the other end of the road. (it's unlikely he would walk down one side and then up the other for such a short road as he just ends up back where he started)
Household No 18 was a public house and so whichever end of the street the pub was at is the end he walked towards. As your relatives are resident at 'schedule No 12' you can logically dismiss more than one half of the street as you can assume they lived nearer the pub. It doesn't identify the exact house and it's not fool proof but it helps narrow it down a little bit.
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Not really answering your question but for what it's worth:
Castle Hill Street
Origins and Meaning
The older name of Castle Hill Street is said to come from Wexford Castle later replaced by the military barracks of Barrack Street. The hill above the castle leading to The Faythe was referred to as Castle Hills around 1840. Another tradition referred to Taylor’s Castle a house and estate that stood between this hill and the seafront but this would give a much later naming. Taylor's Castle was built around 1775 in use in 1840, still standing in 1903 but mostly demolished, between then and 1941.
The current official name refers to the Irish patriot Kevin Barry made famous in a song of the same name. The name was originally changed in September 1920. In 1932 a plebiscite was taken to legalise this decision.
Earliest Mentions
The street is extant but not named in early maps.
The houses are depicted in a map of 1831, before the opening of Parnell Street.
Buildings
James Furlong purchased five houses in Castle Hill Street for £ 500.
In Griffith’s Valuation this is simply called Castle Hill. Of fifteen houses noted, most are on land owned by Patience Tottenham or the reps of John Hughes. James Carr owned the other plot.
People and Events
The record for 1864 show among the 37 ships masters in Wexford John Hore of Castle Street this was either Castle Hill Street or Barrack Street.
Other
A church dedicated to St. Michael was located at the top of Castle Hill Street. This incorporated the Norse burial ground outside the walls.
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Hi Shorts and Nickr90
Thanks so much for the information, just catching up with mail have just arrived back after being in wexford for a wedding, had a brilliant time.
All information is greatly received ;)
Carol
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Hi. Last week I found my grandfather, John Walsh and his family at 1 Castlehill street in the 1901 census. I have been searching for ages to find out where they moved after King Street. I can't find them in the 1911 so the search goes on. Thing that made me take notice was the mention of the Furlong family. My gt.grandmothers maiden name was Furlong and it is the side of my family I know least about. Anne
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This may be a bit off the wall but here is a map showing Castle Hill street as Castle Street it dates from 1845.
Michael Street was Bunkers Hill and Lambert Place was a distant dream.
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Hi Nicky. Once again thank you for the extra bits of information. A couple of times when I have been to Wexford, I stayed at the Swan View Guest house and in the back garden is a high wall. Would that have been part of the original church or the castle. Anne
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Wow ! thanks for posting the map, much appreciated
Carol
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Hi Anne
do you have any information at all on your Gggrandmother, picture is great too did you see the map that was posted ? Brilliant stuff.
Carol
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What was the address of the house you stayed in?
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and here is a street map approx 50 - 60 years on from the map posted by Nick
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Below is a list of individuals resident in Kevin Barry Street as at October 1936. The names appear in the 31st October 1936 edition of the Wexford People & is a list of rate payers assenting to a proposal concerning the water supply.
There are 18 names stated which is the same number of households in the 1911 census and so it could be assumed that this is an almost totally complete (if not complete) list of 'head of household' - a sort of 20th Century Griffiths Valuation!
The names that remain from the 1911 census for Castle Hill St are:
M Carroll
E Goodwin
J Marshall
R White
J O'Leary? (there is a J Leary in the census)
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Hi Shorts
Thankyou so much ! what a find, can see none of my gang are still there, I know that three of the kids were at this time up in Dublin at this point, wonder what happened to mom and dad and the others, at least I now have a clue as to the time period that they had gone. My Patrick Furlong that lived there is down as a coachdriver on my nans wedding cert and also on census pages....wonder if he worked nearby.....not sure if coach driver would mean as in a coach/bus type or coach as in private carriage type that the wealthier people would have . Thanks again :)
Carol
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Hi Carol
If your G Grandparents are Patrick & Mary Furlong residing in Castle Hill St in 1911 but no longer there in 1936 then could this be them?
It's the details taken from a Grave headstone in St Ibar's cemetery (see Seanmacs initial post in the topic heading "St Ibar's Cemetery - Wexford Town" )
If your father had Rossiter Cousins then it's an even stronger possibility.
Mary Furlong, 5 Castlehill st
28/11/1927
hus, Patrick; 8/1/1934
grand-dtr, Marie Rossiter, 55, Whiterock view
11/2/1945 (12)
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The photo was taken in garden of The Faythe Guest House. The swan is just in front of it. The list of names which look like a print out. The first one is Walsh. My grandads family are at No 1 in the 1901 but I can't find them in 1911. Where was the list posted by shorts taken from.
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Hi Rattler
The names appear in the 31st October 1936 edition of the Wexford People & is a list of rate payers assenting to a proposal concerning the water supply. The post is a small section of the article.
The Walsh you refer to in my post is a W Walsh in the Faythe, the Faythe being the street listed above Kevin Barry St.
I have decided to transcribe all the names in the article by surname but there must be almost 2,000 (there's over 130 in the Faythe alone!) and it will take a few weeks to finish. I've completed about 8 streets so far and the Walsh's noted to date are:
Walsh E Main St
Walsh J Main St
Walsh Nellie Main St
Walsh P. J Main St
Walsh R Main St
I'll post a complete set of Walsh's for you in due course.
Cheers
Steve
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Hi Steve. I have spent so long trying to find grandads family that I am grabbing at straws. There are so many Walshs in Wexford.
Carol. All I know of my gt.grandmother was that she was 40 in 1901 census and her maiden name was Furlong.
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Hi Shorts and Rattler
The inscription does indeed look very like it could be my Furlongs, this is very exciting, will take a look at the other thread now. I have today found a a birth on LDS for a Michael Furlong, parents names are Edward Rossiter and Mary Furlong born 15 June 1869. Thanks so much Shorts.
Rattler, do you know your furlongs first name ? I , confusingly enough have Furlongs on both my dads and moms side of the family both of them from Wexford, I have this lot in Enniscorthy and also Ladysisland.....the mind boggles.
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I am at a loss with the Furlong side of my family. Only found the name when I sent for garndads birth certificate. According to the 1901 census his father was John, he had brothers William, James and Francis. My sister feels there might have been a Thomas. My grandparents only had twin girls Mary and Margaret so I have no boys names passed on. His brother James had 2 girls also so no help there.
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the family are
Patrick Furlong coachdriver born 1864
Mary Furlong 1866
Patrick Furlong 1894
Mary Furlong 1896
Christina Furlong 1895
Maggie Furlong 1899
John Furlong 1900
Mark Furlong 1903
Charles Furlong 1905
My grandmother Annastacia Furlong was at this time in Dublin, her sister Molly was not living at home at the time of the 1911 census. Havn't found them on the 1901, but will look when I go to Wexford in July.
Carol
Hi Carol
Below is a copy (in 2 parts) of an entry in the Bride St Church Bapt register for 'Mark Furlong' - dob 20 March 1902
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Hello Shorts :)
Thank you so much for that , its definitely mine, and the first document I have ever seen of my Dads family, thank you very much. Also I now have another Furlong name to look at ....Richard Furlong, what do you think Ellens surname reads...looks like Goodwin ?
This is brilliant ...thankyou ;)
Carol
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Hi Carol
The Sponsor's surname is almost certainly Goodwin supported by the fact there was an Ellen Goodwin living next door to the Furlong family in the 1901 census - see http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001302818/
Richard is not necessarily a family member but may well be. There were only 3 Richard Furlong's living in Wexford Town in the 1901 census and assuming their eldest son (16 in 1902) wasn't the Sponsor then this is the most likely person http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001300949/
Steve
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Hi Steve
Thanks for the links think the Richard you found is most likely the witness, which could help me in the search for Patricks family. I hadnt noticed the Goodwins next door, wondering if she was a family member ? I now have some new stuff to look at, and also the name of a church ! Thank you so much, its very appreciated . ;)
Carol
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Cog,
I'm not sure if this thread is still alive, but however....
I'm pretty sure I can specify the Furlong house on Castlehill Street. My mother lived on the Faythe at Swan View and she is sure that the Furlong house was actually at the top of the hill and could be mistaken for being on the Faythe. If you look on Google Earth and use the Street View option you can see it.
My mothers mother was a Furlong, and my mother's Grandfather was Charles Furlong. They lived in Talbot Street in 1901, in Bogganstown in 1911, and were living on Swan View by the time my mother was born in 1921. My mother remembers Molly and Christine Furlong calling by and referring to her grandfather as Uncle Charlie. My mother was not 100% sure, but believed that Charles was related to Mary not Partick Furlong (Mary's maiden name was also Furlong). My mother and her siblings referred to Mary Furlong as Aunt Mary. My mother's side of the family continued to live on Swan View until the 1970s. Their family name was Kehoe.
I'd be glad to let you have any further info.....assuming this message link is still working!
Gearoid.
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Here is the Google Picture. The Furlong house is the second from the left...the firtst one to the right of the electricity pole, with a white door. Or working from the right side...not the red house, not the white house, yes the unpainted one. The Swan is out of view to the right. The white house was Meades. So the furlong house would have been looking across at the gate to the graveyard.
Gearoid.
Moderator Note : Google Street view removed. Please use a link instead.
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Hello Geroid
what a lovely suprise to get a mail after so long posting am delighted to find someone that knew my Furlongs !! I didnt get chance to read your mails properly yet as I am just checking my mail but will sit down later and have a good read and check out the google view page. Thank you so much for answering :)
Carol
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Glad to be able to make some connections. My mother is 92, but is good at remembering little details, albeit with a fair degree of uncertainty about how sure she is. Usually at her best when just reminiscing. She lived at Swan View until after I was born - in 1949 - when we moved to Waterford, and later to Dublin. I visited Swan View very regularly up to the 1970s. While my mother is in Dublin, there is one aunt still living on the Faythe, as well as many other relatives scattered around the rest of Wexford Town.
Gearoid.
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Hello Cousin haha
Amazing stuff ! I have my records out now and it all fits together nicely . I have searched for many years for my Dads family as I never knew anything about them and all I have is one photograph of the family taken in Dublin the year my Dad was born, he was a few months old in the picture. His mother was Anasatsia Furlong who unfortunately died in Dublin in 1940 age 48 , my Dad was only 13 at the time and one of 9 children. He was so distraut at the death of his Mother he never talked about her family . My mom was the one that lead me in the right direction giving me names of siblings and where they lived. I knew that my GGrandfather Patrick Furlong had married another Furlong because on the 1901 census it records Patricks mother in law as living with them her name being Anastasia Furlong, at first I thought there was a mistake on the census but now with your mothers information know it to be true. So your Great Grandfather Charles Furlong being an uncle of my great aunts Molly and Christine (sinblings of my Grandmother Anastasia) would be Mary Furlongs brother ? and not the brother of her husband Patrick Furlong . With them all having the same name it would have been easy to presume that it would be Patrick that was the brother of your GGrandfather so this information is great news ! I would love to know who the relatives are that are left in Wexford and where your Mother is . I will PM you my chart. my Grandmother Anastasia Furlong married James O'Grady after meeting his while working as a general servant in Bray, they had 9 children one my Dad and settled in Sandymount Dublin. I had travelled to Wexford a couple of years ago hoping to find the Furlong home but didnt manage to . Thank you so much for reply I will PM you next. Perhaps it will trigger more memories for your mother ;)
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I am looking at the google view at the moment, would that be number 14 ? wooden coloured door ?
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I think I got it now , is it the one with the peachy coloured paint around the inserts of windows and door ?
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Yes, the one with the peachy colour around the door and windows - assuming my mother's description is accurate. feel 99% sure myself. If its incorrect, then it would be by only one house - meaning that your peoples house would be the one hiding behing the electricity pole. However, my mother is pretty sure about her memory on this. Until the 1970s the extreme right house (the one with 'Lighting' sign) was not a family home - it was a malthouse. The one in 'red' with the dog grooming sign was our family Kehoe/Furlong; and the white house was Meades. Then your Furlongs. I will send you a photo of Charles Furlong later.
G.
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I have searched for many years for my Dads family as I never knew anything about them and all I have is one photograph of the family taken in Dublin the year my Dad was born, he was a few months old in the picture. His mother was Anasatsia Furlong who unfortunately died in Dublin in 1940 age 48 , my Dad was only 13 at the time and one of 9 children. He was so distraut at the death of his Mother he never talked about her family . My mom was the one that lead me in the right direction giving me names of siblings and where they lived. I knew that my GGrandfather Patrick Furlong had married another Furlong because on the 1901 census it records Patricks mother in law as living with them her name being Anastasia Furlong, at first I thought there was a mistake on the census but now with your mothers information know it to be true.
The 1911 census states that Mary & Patrick Furlong had been married 27 years so they were married approx 1884. Below is what would appear to be their details recorded in the Bride Street church parish register. Date of marriage = 16th June 1884.
Patrick’s father, Richard Furlong, is stated to be resident in Coolcots, a Townland on the outskirts of Wexford town.
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Patrick and Mary's Furlong's first child, Richard, was born approx 9 months after they married on 3 April 1885 (Bapt on 5th). His baptism record confirms that at that time the family were living in King Street.
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When Patrick & Mary's son Patrick was born on 14 Feb 1894 the family were still residing in King Street. However by 16 Feb 1896 they had moved to Castle Hill Street as evidenced by the marriage details of a William Furlong for whom Patrick & Mary were the witnesses.
As William's father is also a 'Richard Furlong', living in Barntown which is close to Coolcots, it's a very strong possibility that Patrick & William are brothers.
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Shorts ! :D Wow ! this is amazing , I cant thank you enough ! just taking it all in at the moment , this is just wonderful ....thank you !!!!!!
Carol
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So Steve ! its seems my GG Grandfathers name was Richard and I also have another town. So many other names too. The King St connection makes my mind boggle a little, this thread being a long one , but I seem to remember Rattler mentioning King Street while looking for her Walsh's and Furlongs ?!?
This new information is absolutley brilliant Steve I am so so pleased with it , thank you so much
Carol
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Hi Carol - Re your Grandmother – Anastasia.
In the 1901 census record for the Furlong family from Castle Hill St there is a ‘Stasia’ Furlong aged 14, i.e. born approx 1887. I had a quick look in my stuff but I can't see a baptism record for her although there is an Anastasia Furlong born in 1887 to a Charles Furlong from Talbot Street.
However you have stated that Anastasia died in 1940 aged 48, i.e. born approx 1892 (and you have also stated she died in 1947 which confuses things a little!)
Do you have an exact date of birth for her?
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I was just looking through my notes on this subject because through both census pages one for wexford and the 1911 for Dublin (where I found her working in Bray where she met my Grandad) her ages conflict. I have her death cert so will take a look in a minute . I noticed also that I have one child missing as stated in the 1911 census 13 children born but only 11 alive. Also have got very excited because have now come across a Richard Furlong and his wife living in Carrick , didnt have time to look up how close this is to Coolcotts but am very excited about this http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Carrick/Ballindinas/1804295/
Will look up my Grannies age again .
Carol :D
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Steve , I think that the Annastasia aged 14 could well be the child I am missing because the one in the census is too old to be my Granny. She definetely died in 1940 the certificate states aged 48. Her birth being 1894 is more relevant to my Grandfathers dob being 1891 he was older than her. I know its not uncommon for parents to name a child after one that died. This could explain why I have never been able to find this missing child. But I need to find a birth now for my Granny.
Carol
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Hi everyone
Im getting very frustrated with this ....now if my granny Anastacia Furlong was born in 1892 as per her death cert saying she died in 1940 aged 48, then why can I not find her on the 1901 census aged 9 ! and indeed find an Anastacia aged 14 ! I know her father was Patrick Furlong "Coachman" as recorded on her marriage cert. and the 1901 census shows Patrick is indeed a coachman although his occupation changed in later years, and I also see siblings living on this census in Castlehill Street that I know about for sure . Where could Anastacia be in 1901 ! Any ideas would be very very much appreciated.
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It would appear that you're taking the age at death (48) stated on Anastasia's death certificate as fact but ages stated on censuses and to a lesser degree death certs can be unreliable. Is this the only source you have to verify a dob of approx 1892?
The 1901 census has a daughter aged 14 (born approx 1887) by the name of Stasia. Is it not very unlikely that if (as you're assuming) a third daughter arrived in 1892 they decided to also name her Anastasia?
Just to emphasise my point, my Great Grandfather was born in 1860 per his baptism record and his age was stated as 40 in the 1901 census and 51 in the 1911 census. However when he died in 1916 aged 56 his death cert stated his age at death as 52!!
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Thanks for the reply :) I didnt think there was a third child named anastacia but a second daughter, but thinking about it , I dont think this is the case. All the way through records of my Grandmother there has been conficts of age, even when talking to my Mom today (her daughter in law) she tells me that she was told that my grandmother had died much younger than the death certificate said ....crikey I need her to be older no younger ! and she said she was told by my Dad that his mother was only 42 when she died ! The anastacia on the census showing her age as 14 makes more sense to me than her being younger because I most definitely find her in 1911 where she met my grandfather in Rathdrum , she states her age then as being 27 ! I know my Great Grandmother had children in 1899, 1900, and 1902 a lot younger than Anastacia. After speaking to my Mom today she said she remembered these later children visiting Anastacia when she lived in Dublin and she knew they were a lot younger than Anastacia . Been thinking about this all day so am glad you mailed , after seeing your cert. feel sure that Stasia aged 14 has to be my Granny . Thanks again :)
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Sorry meant to say she said she was 21 not 27 on the 1911 census. I do have proof that it is her on the 1911 census as I have her marriage certificate which checks out her address at the time. Also was thinking that she couldnt have been born so late because she would probably have still appeared on the 1911 census in Wexford and not in Bray. Even more thinking ....(always knew my Dads side would do this to me !) as a child we didnt really think about how old our parents were or their actual age, my Mother when I asked her as a child how old she was would always say 21 ! I of course would believe her haha. My Dad had told me he was only 12 when Anastasia died and he was told that she was only 42 ....this coming from his siblings , they may never have known her true age at all. Yep I am now convinced that Anastacia aged 14 is my Grannie, and died aged 53 . thanks for your input Shorts ! I will carry on trying to locate her birth cert but with amended year, I may just be succesful !
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Re my earlier post and the reference I made to a “third daughter”. What I was trying to say is that based on the information in the 1901 census Patrick & Mary Furlong had the following daughters:
Stasia aged 14 (born c1887)
Annie aged 13 (born c1888)
If a third daughter had arrived in 1892 it would have been very unlikely that they would have given the child the same name as their still living first daughter.
Earlier I posted the baptism record for their first child, Richard born in 1885 in King Street and below is the baptism record for John, born 23 September 1899 in Castle Hill Street. It would appear from these two addresses that the family remained resident in the southern part of Wexford Town during this period but strangely I can’t see a baptism record for Stasia, Annie or the next born, Bridget born approx 1893, in the local Bride Street church register which is a bit of a mystery??
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You help keep me sane Shorts ! yeah I was originally think that the eldest Stasia had died and a later one being my grannie was born, but thinking about her age when she was found in Bray and the fact that Geroid that added to the conversation told me that his mother remembered two of Anastacias sisters, Molly and Christina (but not Anastacia) sort of confirmed to me that my grannie was indeed older and left the family home which is why Gearoids mother did not remember her. It is a complete mystery why I cannot find a birth for her , I did send off for a cert a few years ago and had it come back as a refund :( maybe I should try again ? this is indeed frustrating as its my Grannie ....my Dads mom ! crazy ! trying to think of another way ....
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A bit out of date perhaps, but....Shorts, looking back on a message of yours of 28th Oct 2012, you mentioned a Charles Furlong of Talbot Street as father to Anastatia born 1887. I had initially thought this was my Grandmother who appears with her parents and siblings in Talbot Street in 1901 and in Bogganstown in 1911. They eventually moved to within 2 doors of the Castlehill Furlongs in the late 1910s. However, I just noticed that the ages are way out. My Anastatia was certainly not born 1887. So I'm assuming that the 1887 Anastatia died young. Given that the Castlehill and Talbot Furlongs are somehow related (according to my mother) it seems as if Anastasia was a much favoured and repeated name. My Grandmother Anastatia died in 1922, a year after my mothers birth.
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Hi Gearoid
how you doing :) This week I made contact with a Marie Rossiter whose father was named Charles from Whiterock, I have sent her my information but it does seem that we are indeed cousins her connection being my great aunt Molly, Anastacias sister. I am waiting for a reply from her. So where does this leave you with finding your Grandmother ?? I am beginning to wonder if this name Anastacia was recorded as something completely different, the name has followed me through the generations , my auntie also been named Anastacia , I didnt know this until she died ! all my life I had known her as my aunt Kitty !
Carol
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I'm pretty ok with the info about my Grandmother Anastasia. The info is quite solid. I'm more interested now in the generation before, as well as in the fact that my Grandmothers Mother had only 3 surviving children out of 8 born. I'm still very curious to find out who and what the connection was between your Furlongs and mine. I'm still unclear as to whether the relationship was through your Patrick or Mary, and what precisely it was. G.
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I need to dig much deeper into the generation before, the only clue I have is the census naming (yet another) Anastacia Furlong as mother in law , if I could take the census as accurate it would mean it was the paternal side . Which would mean than my Grannies mother and Father were Richard and Anastacia , trying to trace their children could help.
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sorry meant Richard and Anastacia being my Grannies grandparents not parents ! Furlongs coming out of my ears !
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Hi
Its been many years since I have re read these messages and since then have had DNA done and found direct cousins to my family in Castlehill Street. I am going through the messages again now that I have much more information and will post here for the wonderful people involved who have helped me further my research into finding my family. This is an amazing site and I have made many friends on here, to be able to return and go over the messages again because the information that I have been given even years later just slots right in with new family members that have come about because of DNA. I would just like to thank you all sincerely for all your help in getting me as far as I have come. Carol :)
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Carol,
Good to have contact. I look forward to interesting news especially arising from DNA matches. I had mine taken recently (on MyHeritage) and it has brought up a few interesting links, but mostly needing further work.
Regards
Gearóid
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Hello all. I have been away from site for some time but today i dipped in and found these messages re Castlehill Street. my Walsh family have always given me problems as Gt.grandad John Walsh married Mary Furlong two of the more popular names in the town. In 1901 they were shown at 1 Castlehill Street having moved from King street a couple of years before and that is why i became hopeful when i read the latest post. I can find no trace of them in the 1911 census but know that son William died there in 1905. I have tried DNA but so far the only Walsh to contact me lives in Newfoundland with no knowledge of Wexford so I am hoping for a connection this time. Fingers crossed Anne
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hello,we have a connection to Patrick Furlong 1864/5 coachman ,Castle Hill Street. John Furlong (5th child)was grandad but we cant find any information about him beyond his marriage to Mary Houlihan in 1927. A witness at his wedding is shown as being Mary O Grady. Any help gratefully recieved
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Is there a sister Anastasia
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rathmines___Rathgar_East/Ranelagh_Road/44466/
Married James O'Grady in Bray 1912
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1912/09905/5599883.pdf
a daughter Margaret Mary born 1912 in Castle Hill St ,Wexford, father at Capel St,Dublin
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1912/09905/5599883.pdf
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James in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wicklow/Bray_No__2/Main_Street__East_Side/891837/
1901 ?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wicklow/Bray/Quinsboro_Road/1811477/
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Patrick Furlong was married to Mary Furlong, both same surname. Mary was a sister of my great grandfather Charles Furlong who lived a few doors away on Swan View, The Faythe (although his house was sometimes listed as Castlehill Street. Castlehill Street is now Kevin Barry Street. I can id both houses on Google Maps/Earth if you like.
Mary and Charles were the children of John Furlong d.1887 and Anty Kavanagh b. 1835 in Castlebridge, d. 1905. Both Anty and John died in Distillery Road, Wexford Town.
Hope this helps. I have a bit more on my MyHeritage site, "Kehoe Mac Eochaidh". Feel free to look. I only have one photo of Charles, which might be of interest.
Regards, Gearóid.
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Anastasia 1886
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02579/1953416.pdf
1901 age 14
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Wexford_Urban_No__2/Castlehill_Street/1807498/
her son Patrick was born 1917 at 2 Seafort Villas, Sandymount.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1917/01321/1545845.pdf
Anastatia died 1940 at that address age 48 should be about 53
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1940/04716/4260165.pdf
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Thank you for the information. :) Does anyone know if any of the Castle hill Furlongs moved to Birmingham or Manchester. I have found Christine Furlong and Charlotte Furlong in Birmingham on census records but I'm not sure if they are from this particular family.
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Hello Dathai . This certainly looks like our family. We think John went to England maybe in the late 40s or later. John and Mary had 4 children born in Ireland. We don't know where or when he died. He appears to have had siblings or at least relatives living in the same household. thanks for your past help