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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Fermanagh => Topic started by: samspike on Tuesday 02 June 09 19:59 BST (UK)
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My great, great, great, grandparents James and Margaret (Graham) Trimble migrated to the USA in the 1840s. James was born in Enniskillen (there has some speculation he actually was born in Tyrone of Pomeroy County) in 1814.
I plan to visit Ireland next year and would like to visit churches, cemeteries, and relatives .
Can anyone help me with names and addresses?
Thanks
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Welcome to Rootschat. Since registration of births started in 1864 you would need to search for church records to find family information but to do so you need to know their religion and where they lived. Pomeroy is in Co. Tyrone not 'Tyrone of Pomeroy County.'
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aghadowey, thanks for the response. Any suggestions for finding living relatives by the name of Trimble in these locations?
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Telephone directory will list some, not all, Trimbles.
There was an earlier thread about Trimbles of Enniskillen here on Rootschat:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=ab705899c8d1d4cb5635cb895f7ccb1b&topic=169982.0
Since there were Trimbles connected to Impartial Reporter (Enniskillen paper) you might want to write a letter asking if anyone can help but since your family left Ireland so long ago the chances of actually finding relatives are quite slim.
www.culturenorthernireland.org/article.aspx?art_id=1062
If you put 'Trimble Enniskillen' into a search engine like Google lots of entries are listed.
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The Enniskillen Trimbles from the Impartial Reporter were originally from Pomeroy.
James Nevin Trimble, brother of the first proprietor born 1816 went to New York 1833 according to printed history of the family. Wife's name not given. Had daughter Ann and sons James and Starr. - Seamas Mac Annaidh
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I am also a descend of James and Margaret Trimble. MY line is their son Robert. Which is yours? Did you get to visit Ireland?
I have been trying to determine if James was born in Pomeroy, Co. Tyrone or Enniskillen. There is a John Trimble living in Co. Fermanagh during the Muster Roll some year in the 1630s. John is listed as having no armes and being in the Barony of Magherboy under Sir John Hume, Knight. There are several armed Graham's on this estate as well.
Other Graham's (Graham was considered to be a Scottish name) appear on the Castle Balfour estate. Some on the Barony of Clankelly - Armagh Manor. In total Graham's appear 29 times on various lands. Trimble appears once.
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Just some extra Info for all. Information found and PRONI (Public Records Office of Northern Ireland).
Pomeroy, County Tyrone Brothers were:
William Trimble(Enniskillen)
Robert Trimble(Pomeroy)
James Trimble (Pomeroy)
Sinclair Trimble
Sons & Daughters of William Trimble (Enniskillen)
William Copeland Trimble (From First Wife)
John Nevin Trimble (from First Wife)(Carrick-on-Shannon)
Robert Sinclair Halliday Trimble
Samuel Douglas Trimble (Ballyshannon)
Daughter - Elizabeth Emily Trimble (mentioned in will as Elizabeth Groves) married a man named Ferguson from Australia.
Daughter - Jeannette Trimble married a Stewart.
William Copeland Trimble had a newspaper business in Enniskillen. He had a son named John Nevin Trimble who lived for awhile at Carrick on Shannon. William Copeland Trimble lived for awhile at Portadown. His mother was Anne Trimble and father William Trimble.
The Paper Company he owned was the Fermananagh Reporter Office and the Enniskillen Printing Works.
Samuel Trimble was a brother to William Copeland Trimble. Samuel was from Ballyshannon.
John Nevin Trimble went to Canada and a letter from William Copeland Trimble is on file. Also William had a daughter named Elizabeth Emily who married an Autralian called Ferguson. They had a daughter named Emily Jane Ferguson.
Will of William Trimble of Enniskillen says:
Leaves one shilling to son John Nevin Trimble and one shilling to his sisters.
Also says John Nevin Trimble is William's son of first marriage.
- Says William passes on copyright of newspaper called the Impartial Reporter and Fermanagh Cavan and Leitrim Farmers Journal, including all types, pressess, machinery and all house hold furniture to William Copeland Trimble.
Son Samuel Douglas Trimble to get three hundred pounds instalments 50 pounds half yearly.
Son Robert Sinclair Halliday Trimble to get one shilling.
daughter Elizabeth Groves one shilling.
daughter Jeanette Stewart one shilling
and brither Robert to get 50 pounds.
Will was Jan 16, 1888.
Cheers
Steve
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I just recently took a trip to Enniskillen in Fermanaugh County, Ireland. I was very excited to find a butcher shop called J. Trimble Meats there, and also that a Trimble family had owned the "Impartial Reporter" for many generations.
My great-great-great grandfather on my father’s side, James Trimble (married Margaret Elizabeth Graham), came to the US with his family from Enniskillen, Fermanagh County, Ireland, in 1846 when his son, my great-great grandfather Robert Trimble, was six months old. My great-grandfather's name was John Edgar Trimble, my grandfather's name was also John Edgar Trimble, and my father's name is Charles Edgar Trimble. Myself, my father, and my grandfather are all from Pennsylvania.
If anyone knows anything about my family and if they are somehow connected to the Trimbles still in Fermanaugh County, I would love to know more.
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samspike... Which of James and Margaret (Graham) Trimble's children are you descended from? I am from the line of their son Robert Trimble.
Thru RootsChat I have connected with a cousin from James and Margaret's son Robert's line and am looking for others. There is much to learn and to share. Any other descendants of James and Margaret Trimble or of one of their children?
Also would love to hear from someone who lives in Co Fermanagh and/or who knows a Trimble or two.
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I am also descended through Robert's line, and then through his son, John Edgar Trimble.
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Samspikes emails are not working at the moment but have managed to send an email to the Historical Society he is a member of to let him know of your new replies. Hope to see samspike soon :)
Sarah
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Hello There,
I am Robert Watt born near Pomeroy in 1941, my mother was Hannah Trimble born in 1916.
I have been researching our Trimble family for a few years and have traced the Trimble family back to the 1500s in Scotland.
From Robert.
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Hello There,
I am Robert Watt born near Pomeroy in Co. Tyrone, My mother was Hannah Trimble,
I am interested in any Trimble information.
From Robert.
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Hello Everybody!!,
I am Robert Watt, my mother was Hannah Trimble, we both were born near Pomeroy in Co. Tyrone
I have been researching our Trimble ancestry for a few years now and have built up quite a lot of information on the family which I am willing to share with other researchers.
I go under the name of Drummond22.
From Robert.
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In,
In case anyone is interested here are a couple of items from the Londonderry Sentinel.
Marriage 23 May 1846. In Dublin on the 21st inst. William Trimble Esq., editor and proprietor of the Fermanagh Reporter to Anne, Relict of the late John Farrell Esq., of Westport, merchant.
Death 7 Mar 1865. On Feb 26th, at Pomeroy, Anne, relict of the late Mr. James Trimble, aged 83 years, daughter of the late Adam Delmege Esq., Rathkeale, Co. Limerick and mother of Mr. William Trimble, editor and proprietor of the Fermanagh Reported.
Regards
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Hello Kingskerswell,
Thank you very much for that information, Yes they are / were my Trimble connections,
The Adam Delmege was a descendant of the Palatines from Germany who came to Ireland in 1710.
I appreciate any snippets of information you may find, email address removed by moderator please use the private message function to exchange private information
Thank you very much, From Robert.
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Hi Drummond,
You have just sent samspike a PM, I am sorry his notifications are no longer working (there is a little note below his name) very sorry.
Regards
Sarah
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Hello Everyone,
I am Robert Watt a Trimble descendant, I am still interested in any information on the Trimble family,
Also I would appreciate any info on the Beacom family from Co. Fermanagh, for a disabled Trimble descendant in Australia,
Robert.
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Hello from Australia,
My 3rd Great Grandfather was Andrew Trimble (1803-1891) from Pomeroy.
as far as I know: His children were:
Mary
George
Robert (1836-1907)
Alicia
Susan
John
James
William (1842-1820) Munderadoe, Pomeroy
Andrew
I'm a descendant of Robert Trimble who migrated to Australia. Married in 1860 to Mary Ann Rafferty
Could this be the same William Enniskillen?
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Cumbrian Grahams were also settled in Ulster, Trimble=Scottish Turnbull?
Skoosh.
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Welcome to RootsChat :)
Hello from Australia,
My 3rd Great Grandfather was Andrew Trimble (1803-1891) from Pomeroy.
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William (1842-1820) Munderadoe, Pomeroy
Andrew
Here's the link to Andrew's death. The informant was his son Andrew. He died at Munderadow (sic) townland.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1891/06058/4726864.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/dungannon-middle/pomeroy/munderrydoe/ in Pomeroy civil parish
KG
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Son Andrew died in 1894.
Informant was his widow Elizabeth.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1894/05969/4697024.pdf
Andrew Trimble married Eliza Sinnamon in 1875.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1875/11202/8105292.pdf
KG
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Eliza Trimble and her family in 1901 Irish census.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Pomeroy/Munderrydoe/1731230/
A son Andrew born in 1888 and died, aged 5 in 1894.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1888/02499/1926800.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1894/05960/4694181.pdf
The Valuation Book noted in 1896 as reps of Andrew Trimble who died in 1894.
KG
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Hello KG, and thanks for the welcome.
That information is great.
In the 1901 census, Elizabeth Trimble said her age was 40, which makes her birth abt 1860. Her marriage to Andrew in 1875 would make her 15yo.
PA
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In the 1901 census, Elizabeth Trimble said her age was 40, which makes her birth abt 1860. Her marriage to Andrew in 1875 would make her 15yo.
She probably underestimated her age because she didn't actually know it. On her wedding record in 1875, she was 'full age' meaning 21 and over (so at least 46).The reality was that many Irish people back in late 1800’s and early 1900’s didn't have the same focus on their birth date as we do today and didn’t celebrate birthdays. As a result, many didn't have an accurate knowledge of their age and many ages on census documents were simply a guess.
For others viewing, here are two of her sons on the 1911 Irish census.
George
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Pomeroy/Munderrydoe/860860/
Hamilton
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/The_Rock/Gortavale/861251/
KG
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Eliza Trimble and her family in 1901 Irish census.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Pomeroy/Munderrydoe/1731230/
Alicia (Elicia) and her brother Henry in 1911.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Pomeroy/Munderrydoe/860863/
Alicia married John Somerville in 1911 (Dungannon Registrar's Office)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1911/09955/5619543.pdf
Jane married Alexander Somerville in 1911
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1911/09936/5612383.pdf
Birth of Mabel Alicia Trimble in 1903 at Lisnabreeny (father Robert, mother Eliza Potter)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1903/01862/1725634.pdf
KG
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Birth of Mabel Alicia Trimble in 1903 at Lisnabreeny (father Robert, mother Eliza Potter)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1903/01862/1725634.pdf
Marriage of Mabel's parents in Belfast in 1901.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1901/10305/5751420.pdf
Eliza Potter from the townland of Corkhill, Civil Parish of Pomeroy.
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/dungannon-middle/pomeroy/corkhill/
Robert Trimble in 1901 census in Belfast.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/St__George_s_Ward_Belfast/Glenalpin_Street/955715/
KG
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Apart from the youngest two children (Andrew and Henry), all the other siblings have birth records where their first name was not recorded. Matching up the records, gives (via the 1901):
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001192279/
Unknown Trimble (M) 1880…..George
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02877/2054183.pdf
Unknown Trimble (M) 1882…..Hamilton
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1882/02764/2014918.pdf
Unknown Trimble (F) 1884…..Jane
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1884/02673/1984807.pdf
Unknown Trimble (F) 1886…..Alicia
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02596/1958798.pdf
Henry Trimble 1891
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1891/02403/1896065.pdf
Probate of the Will of Andrew Trimble late of Munderadow County Tyrone Farmer who died 7 April 1894 granted at Armagh to Robert Cinnamon Farmer. Effects £386
https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearchImage.aspx?id=249711
KG
Edited: https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx
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The three eldest siblings……..children of Andrew and Elizabeth (Eliza) Trimble of Munderrydoe.
Unknown Trimble (M) 1876…..James
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1876/03073/2126345.pdf
Unknown Trimble (F) 1877…..Hannah
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/03027/2109225.pdf
Unknown Trimble (M) 1878…..Robert
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02946/2079136.pdf
James married Elizabeth Montgomery in 1899 in Dungannon 2nd Presbyterian Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1899/10378/5778624.pdf
In 1901 census in Belfast.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/St__Anne_s_Ward__Belfast/Chichester_Street/974339/
KG
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Three daughters to James and Elizabeth Trimble……..MMN Montgomery
Elizabeth Victoria 1901
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01947/1752430.pdf
Catherine Violet 1903
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1903/01853/1722284.pdf
Constance Gertrude 1905
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1905/01776/1698372.pdf
James and family with his mother Elizabeth in 1911 census in Londonderry.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_No__3_Urban/Hawkins_Street/914935/
Trimble James of Hawkins Street Londonderry fire brigade superintendent died 16 June 1932 at The Turret Magilligan county Londonderry Probate Londonderry 24 August to Elizabeth Trimble the widow. Effects £632 16s. 1d.
KG
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Elizabeth Trimble died in 1931.
Trimble Elizabeth of Derrygortinea county Tyrone widow died 22 March 1931 Probate Londonderry 29 April to James Trimble fire brigade superintendent. Effects £417 14s. 5d.
Derrygortanea townland in the Civil Parish of Desertcreat.
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/dungannon-upper/desertcreat/derrygortanea/
KG
Edited to Add:
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
Elizabeth Trimble 22nd March 1931 73 Female Dungannon
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Unknown Trimble (F) 1877…..Hannah
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/03027/2109225.pdf
Death of Hannah Trimble in 1894, aged 17 years. Informant was her brother George of Mundradow (sic).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1894/05960/4694181a.pdf
KG