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Title: James Florence McCARTHY - NSW
Post by: pfh2760 on Wednesday 10 June 09 04:53 BST (UK)
James was the son of John McCarthy and Catherine Gaffney.  With Elizabeth McCormick and infant son arrived in NSW in 1842 and settled initially in Campbelltown.  He was a carpenter. Several children later in the early 1850s he moved to Blackmans Point on the Hastings River, and then to Clifton in Port Macquarie where he was known to ba a grazier.  .  In the 60's he moved to Kempsey  and then in 1871 was appointed the police magistrate in the Bellinger River district.  He died in 1875.

I am seeking any information at all, but particularly why he went to Kempsey.  There is a suggestion he was a newspaper publisher of either the Macleay Independent (with son-in-law Frank Aria) or the Macleay Herald.

Anyone know anything?
Title: Re: James Florence McCARTHY - NSW
Post by: krisesjoint on Wednesday 10 June 09 06:37 BST (UK)
Hi,

Immigration aboard the PALESTINE as assisted immigrants 6 March 1842

McCARTHY James 28 Carpenter R Catholic Could read and write Native of West Meath He planned to work at his trade on shore
McCARTHY Elizabeth 25 House servant R Catholic Could read and write Native of West Meath
McCARTHY John 1 1/4 Son R Catholic of West Meath

There is a record of insolvency in 1843

Government Gazette 1843

In the insolvent estate of James Florence McCarthy, of George Street Sydney, timber merchant

Whereas the estate of James Florence McCarthy was on the 3rd day of June 1843, placed under sequestration in my hands, by order of his honour Sir James Dowling, I hereby appoint a meeting of creditors of the said James Florence McCarthy to be holden at the supreme courthouse Sydney on Monday the 12th of June to commence at 2 and end at 2.30 PM, for proof of debts, and another meeting to be holden at the same place on Friday 16 June to commence at 2 PM and end at 3 PM for the like purpose and for electing a trustee or trustees
Dated this 3rd day of June 1843
William H Kerr
Chief Commissioner of Insolvent Estates

Cheers Kris  :)
Title: Re: James Florence McCARTHY - NSW
Post by: pfh2760 on Wednesday 10 June 09 06:51 BST (UK)
Thanks Kriss, I knew about the Palestine, but the insolvency is news.  All his children born in the 40's were born and baptised at Campbelltown, so possibly an address of George Street may suggest another James Florence?  I know of two other James Florence, one of which was located in the Northern Rivers.

Any thoughts?
Regards
Philip
Title: Re: James Florence McCARTHY - NSW
Post by: gcain on Monday 10 April 17 06:20 BST (UK)
Elizabeth is buried in Frederickton Cemetery, as is her son Charles.
Title: Re: James Florence McCARTHY - NSW
Post by: cupoflife on Monday 10 April 17 07:15 BST (UK)
see pg 175 & 208 in this link (actual page 1107 & 1140) http://tinyurl.com/kddrhxl
21 March 1871 James Florence McCarthy Newspaper Proprietor
Title: Re: James Florence McCARTHY - NSW
Post by: CassT on Monday 10 April 17 07:17 BST (UK)
Grave photos on this link for Elizabeth

http://austcemindex.com

regards

Cass
Title: Re: James Florence McCARTHY - NSW
Post by: judb on Monday 10 April 17 07:42 BST (UK)
Some snippets from TROVE (which you may already have)

1871 - some negative opinions about him and his "Romish ways" and his appointment as JP and Police Magistrate from The Protestant Standard (Sydney).

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/211524398
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/211523382/22646687
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/211524272

Judith
Title: Re: James Florence McCARTHY - NSW
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 10 April 17 07:43 BST (UK)
Is this your James Florence - nominated to represent Port Macquarie in July 1859?
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article60400312
Title: Re: James Florence McCARTHY - NSW
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 10 April 17 08:18 BST (UK)
Becomes proprietor of the Harp of Erin Inn July 1862
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article18689665
Title: Re: James Florence McCARTHY - NSW
Post by: rosball on Tuesday 11 April 17 12:52 BST (UK)
There is a probate file for a James Florence McCarthy who died in 1876  ...  ???
https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/item/308139.  From NSW BDM there isn't a probable death in 1876 so I think this is your man who died in late 1875.

I can photograph this probate file for you when I am next at SRO if you wish.

Ros
Title: Re: James Florence McCARTHY - NSW
Post by: gcain on Wednesday 12 April 17 01:29 BST (UK)
James died 3 October 1875 (1875/2845) at Balmain, NSW.
Death Notice in SMH 30 October 1875 pg7
Title: Re: James Florence McCARTHY - NSW
Post by: maddys52 on Wednesday 12 April 17 02:03 BST (UK)
Have just noticed that the original post was from 2009 and that Phillip hasn't been on-line since 29 June 09 (and his avatar says email not working!) so possibly he won't see these replies!  ;)
Title: Re: James Florence McCARTHY - NSW
Post by: rosball on Thursday 13 April 17 01:35 BST (UK)
James died 3 October 1875 (1875/2845) at Balmain, NSW.
Death Notice in SMH 30 October 1875 pg7
Yes that is correct.  Do you want the probate file photographed?

Ros