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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Berkshire => Topic started by: sally harris on Friday 12 June 09 12:59 BST (UK)
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I am researching my husbands family history which includes the Mortons and Fishers of Bucklebury. i have an unnamed picture which has been dated to between 1890-1893 most likely a Morton. I'm posting it in the hope that someone recognises the couple and can throw some light as to why it was taken in Worcester.
Sally Harris
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Hello Sally,
We have been in touch before on other sites as we are very distantly related via the Sellwoods. I am wondering if the photo is of John Morton 1845 who married Mary Pike.
They certainly travelled around. In 1881 in Suffolk, in 1891 in Huntingdonshire. I don't havae them in 1901. Like his grandfather before him, John 1845 was a non-conformist preacher.
Yours
Vicwinann
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hello Victoria,
I think you may be right. Matching it with a peter Morton Picture I have I had just decided it was Peter at a younger age until I had the picture dated. in 1901 John is still living in Great Grandsen -huntingdonshire right next to the babptist chapel.
Sally
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Ah, some distant relatives!
I am a direct descendent of Tabitha Morton, (bc 1828) the youngest daughter of John Morton, the preacher and campaigner against enclosure - he was my Gt Gt Gt grandfather.
Tabitha left Bucklebury and went to live in the Deptford/Greenwich area of SE London after her little indiscretion in Bucklebury (the birth of her daughter Sarah Ann in 1847). In 1850, she married a local Greenwich man, William Bradley, at St Luke's Charlton, and William gave Sarah Ann his name as well as fathering four other children.
Does anyone have details of the family before John, or his wife Sarah's maiden name?
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Hello siegebatteries
I think that we can help one another. Yes, I have John Morton senior's wife's maiden name. It was Bradley and I have often wondered whether there was a relationship with dau Tabitha's husband. Haven't followed it up, however.
John Morton was born in Sunninghill according to my research - to John and Mary nee Radwell.
I am distantly related via dau Mercy who married John Sellwood, one of my paternal lot.
I am happy to share my Sellwood research if you are happy to share Bradley stuff.
I will send you a PM with my email address.
Yours
Vicwinann
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sometime ago someone suggested to me that johns wife was called Sarah Bradley -however recently someone shared a tree with me giving the name as Sarah Lilford -the marriage supposedly took place at St Frideswides in Frilsham on 11th August 1818. I haven't checked it out yet.
Sally Harris
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Thanks for your replies - Tabitha's husband's family of Bradleys were definitely Kentish in origin, and while their eldest son was called John Morton Bradley (b1857), their second son was Henry Liford Bradley (b1861), so perhaps the Liford connection is the stronger possibility. I have been told the registers of Frilsham were stolen some years ago, but perhaps the Bishop's Transcripts have survived.
There seems to have been links between Tabitha and her Sellwood nieces - Lydia Sellwood was with Tabitha's family in Greenwich in 1861 and Sarah Ann Bradley worked in Newbury with her cousin Mercy Sellwood in 1871.
I would be very happy to share info
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sometime ago someone suggested to me that johns wife was called Sarah Bradley -however recently someone shared a tree with me giving the name as Sarah Lilford -the marriage supposedly took place at St Frideswides in Frilsham on 11th August 1818. I haven't checked it out yet.
Sally Harris
Hello,
The marriage of John Morton and Sarah Bradley is on the VRI British Isles as 18 Oct 1818 in Bucklebury. In 1851 Sarah said born Frilsham, but in 1861, Bucklebury.
I take the point about dau Tabitha naming a child with the middle name Liford, but I have not come across a marriage of John to Sarah Liford as yet.
I have sent a PM to you, seigebatteries, so I look forward to hearing from you on my home address
Yours
Vicwinann
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to seige batteries . I'm attaching a picture of john morton in case you haven't got one.
sally Harris
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Dear Sally
Many many thanks for the picture - I didn't have one of him before
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To seigebatteries.
If you look in photo restore you will find a restored version of the John Morton picture.
Sally Harris
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Hi Sally
I went on Roots chat earlier this quite by chance and put in my great grandfathers name Rev John Morton, I didn't expect to get anything but was surprised to find a photo of him and my great grandmother in their younger days. I myself have one of them in the Manse garden at Gt Gransden with my great aunt Rosa, who I knew as a child and great uncle Bernard, who was also a minister. There was also a photo (poor) of my ggg grandfather also Rev John Morton of Bucklebury. I visited the chapel at Bucklebury, during the summer and found a clearer photo of him on the wall. In the link I was reading between you and another distant relative! You said you had a photo of Peter Morton, would it be possible to see this, I am new to this site so not sure how you go about doing this sort of thing! Hopefully this will get to you - Cyndy
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Hi Cyndy
Think you may have missed a generation. Rev John Morton of Bucklebury died in 1871 and his wife Sarah in 1877. It was their grandson John (father of Rosa and [Charles] Bernard among others) who was the Baptist Minister of Great Grandsen but he wasn't there until sometime between 1885 and 1888, so a photo of John and Sarah at Great Grandsen is unlikely. You might, however, have one of the younger John Morton and his wife Mary
Cheers
Peter
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Hi Peter
No, I went on Roots Chat earlier this year and put in my gt grandfather's name, Rev John Morton. And was amazed to find a photo of both my gt grandparents, John and Mary, when they were younger. I found distant relations talking about family members and to top it all, I found a photo of our 3x gt grandfather, another Rev John Morton. My sister and I spent summer holidays with our maternal grandmother Bella, Fredrick's wife. And played at my Aunt Rosa Christmas' house with her granddaughter Susan, Rosa died when I was about 12, but I knew Aunt Alice, Willy Morton's wife, for longer as she lived to 100! I will attempt to post the photo I have of Rev John & Mary Morton with Aunt Rosa and Uncle Bernard, bear with me it a first. I seem to remember you said your 2x gt grandmother was Tabitha Morton, so are you a Bradley or a Bathe?
Cyndy
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cyndy,
the broad street chapel where peter Morton was married now a branch of waterstones
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Sorry Cyndy
I pressed the wrong button that is from right to left my daughter -my granddaughter and a friend
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Frederick and Isabella Morton
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Picture as requested by cyndy
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Hello Sally
I might be what person who you guy's are looking for
I have load's of photo's of the Morton's Sellwood's & Bradley family's around 1870's & post cards from 1900 to 1920's
Tabitha Dorcas Bradley (morton) is my descendant and there is a black lacquer with mother of pearl inlay album (all photos removed but still all in a box sadly) & its pure gold for all of us
thanks
simon
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Hello All, This is my first time on this forum. After a bit of family tree 'home schooling' with our young children I got the bug! Dug into Ancestry and followed my family back to Bucklebury. The first Rev John Morton (1788 to 1871) is my 4th Great Grandfather - I am down the David, Peter, Frederick, Robert, Robert line. I grew up in Lincolnshire and ended up moving to Berkshire 20 years ago. We spent a lovely day yesterday in West Berkshire - visiting Beenham, Bucklebury, The Slade and Holly Farm. I can't wait for the current lockdown to be lifted a little so we can see inside some of the lovely churches. We only got as far as the graveyards and we did pay a visit to Morton's Chapel. Any stories beyond the usual census and 'births, marriages, deaths' would be fantastic! Many thanks