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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: crystal blue on Monday 15 June 09 11:25 BST (UK)
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Hi
I am working on my McGregor family history and would welcome any information.
Alexander McGregor and Sophia Hohipaia Ngapuhi had several children one of which was my great grandfather John Alexander born about 1862 Kennedys Bay.
John Alexander McGregor married Mary Taruke Taite (born Raglan 1870).
I would love to hear from anyone that knows any further information or can help me find out more about Alexander and Sophia and their descendants.
Kind regards
Crystal
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You may already be aware of them, but here are a couple of links that may reference the couple you are looking for.
http://www.jillsjottings.orconhosting.net.nz/Harataunga.htm
http://members2.boardhost.com/wlorac/msg/1230342310.html
http://www.maori.org.nz/papa_panui/forum_topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6035&FORUM_ID=2&CAT_ID=2&Forum_Title=Finding+Whanau+%28Family%29&Topic_Title=Sophie+%28Hohipaia%29+Ngapuhi&whichpage=1&tmp=1#pid26746
http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-TurOldP-t1-g1-g4-g2.html
Good luck with your search.
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Thanks Nicoleh,
Yes I have come across some of those sites, but thank you very much for taking the time to respond to my posting.
All the very best with your research too.
Kind regards
Crystal
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These comments were posted by pm before the topic was raised, so posting here to add to the picture/prevent rework
Bye
Althea
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"Hauraki contested 1769-1875" by Paul Monin
page 116 talking about land purchases
"While some of the European families, party to waiver purchases in Hauraki went onto marry into local hapu - like the McGregors of Coromandel..."
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Coromandel historypages:
McGregor Alexander Kikowhakarere Coromandel 1866 Freehold farm in his occupation
http://corohistory.googlepages.com/coromandelnewzealandelectoralroll1866
and some others that may be related in later rolls
http://corohistory.googlepages.com/electoralrolls
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Something on a sister of John
William born 1865 in Invercargill New Zealand. William married Christina MacGregor, daughter of Alexander McGregor and Sophia Hohi on the 24th Jan 1889 at Coromandel. Christina died 28th Jan 1895 at Coromandel. Grandchildren: Anna Margaret Sophia Campbell born 1889 Coromandel. William Alexander Campbell born 1894 Coromandel, died 28th August 1970 at Auckland.
http://corohistory.googlepages.com/thomascampbell
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RESEARCH NAMES
M/F
TRIBE/IWI
TOWN or PROVINCE
TIME PERIOD
Hohi Sophia NGAPUHI F Whakatohea/Ngatiporau Cmdel 1810
Hohi Sophia NGAPUHI F Whakatohea/Ngatiporau B.O.P. 1810
Hohi Sophia NGAPUHI F Whakatohea/Ngatiporqu Gt.Barrier 1810
http://www.rcyachts.net/maori/research%20n%20to%20z.htm
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hi crystal...I am a descendant of hohipaea sophia ngapuhi and alexander Mcgregor....
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I don't know if you will get this message being 2 years late!
I have been researching whakapapa for my children. Hohi Ngapuhi is their great(x4) grandmother. Her and Alexander Macgregor had a son John Alexander Macgregor who had a daughter called Harriet. She married Francis Rudolf Shortcliff who are my partners great grandparents (or the kids great great grandparents).
Don't know much else.
If you have any other info it would be much appreciated.
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Alexander and hohipaea also had a daughter called christina who married alexander cambell....anna sophia margaret cambell was their daughter... my grandmother
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Welcome alimack8
Will ask for thread to go to active area, then you may be able to get some help for the family and grassmoa share any further info.
Do you have marriage, burial, birth details for the family?
BYe
Althea
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Topic moved to the NZ Board as requested and PM sent to original poster for their attention.
A warm welcome to RootsChat, Grassmoa and Alimack8. ;D
Spades
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yes we have some birth and marriage certificates. Marriage cert for John Macgregory and Mary Taite - 5th April 1998.
I'm interested in looking before Hohipaea to find out prior to that if anyone has any info.
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http://www.rcyachts.net/maori/research%20n%20to%20z.htm
Did you follow that connection?
Have you made any contact with Whakatohea Maori Trust Board to ask about any linage info, or who they have to help folk with descent queries.
Following maori land records may reveal something also. to find which hapy she was associated with.
Do you have any possible names for her parents (probably in prior links..I'll go back and have a read..
BYE
Althea
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my research indicates that hohipaea's parents were materena waitangi and commander james wood who sailed the H.M.S Buffalo they had four daughters hohipaea was one..hope that helps :D
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Generation No. 20
MATERENA 20 WAITANGI (HOTU 19, HUIROHOTU 18, KAWATU17, TE 16 MAUNGA, TUPURONGO 15, TE 14 URUREHE, KAWAIHO 13, KAHOPU 12, PAKAKURA 11, KURAAWHERANGI-TAMAHAUA 10, HINEWAI 9, MAIWAKITENUKUROA 8, TAMATEAHUNAROA 7, AMAITEURU? 6, WAIKURA 5, WHAKAUREHE 4 (WHAKAUERIRI), RANGIKURUKURU 3, MURIWAI 2, HIKOROA 1 IRAKEWA).
She met (1) Commander JAMES WOOD. She met (2) RANGIWHEU. She met (3) TAKATO.
Children of MATERENA WAITANGI and Commander WOOD are:
i. MAUPUNARUA21.
ii. asian.
iii. NGAHIRAKA WOOD, b. Abt. 1842, Opotiki; d. July 30, 1890, Gisborne, Poverty Bay. Buried at Kaiti Cemetery. Aged 48 years..
iv. KATERINA.
Child of MATERENA WAITANGI and TAKATO is:
v. KATERINA21 TAKATO, b. Nov. 02, 1843; d. 1940; Stepchild.
http://www.jillsjottings.orconhosting.net.nz/Kennedy%20History%202.htm
BYe
Althea
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searching I have discovered that my kids are descendants of Muriwai, sister of Toroa the Araki (superior Chief who migrated to Aotearoa.)on the Mataatua canoe. Which means that you must be also Grassmoa. This is from the Kennedy family history which is quite indepth. Don't really quite understand all of the layout of the family tree at http://www.jillsjottings.orconhosting.net.nz/Kennedy%20History%202.htm
but http://www.jillsjottings.orconhosting.net.nz/Kennedy%20History.htm is quite informative also.
Thanks everyone.
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Hi there Grassmoa and Alimack
I was researching two years ago and have since changed computers, downloaded info that I had researched and changed email addresses etc. and basically due to family commitments put my research on hold!!
Amazingly yesterday I thought about the geneology work I had started on my grandmother's side of the family - she was Harriet's sister - Margrett McGregor - daughter of John McGregor and Mary Taruke.
Thought it was about time I spent some time on it again!! So called into this site.
Was so pleased to see your emails - happy to share any information - please feel free to email me.
Kind regards
Crystal
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Hi Crystal,
Do you have any information on Mary Taruke Taite?
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Hi I am a descendant of Mary (Mere) Taruke Taite her daughter Harriet is my great grandfather's mum (My great grandfather is Francis Rudolph Shortcliffe.) His son Alexander Vesta Shortcliffe married Vera Nellie McGillivray their daughter Lynette Ann Shortcliffe married Eparaima Morton Manuirirangi from Taranaki and I am their youngest child. I have been doing genealogy for quite awhile and have all the information that has been passed down. There is not much information on Mary Taruke Taite at this stage although I am hunting.
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Welcome lexxbabe
if you make a couple more posts, then researchers can contact you via the direct mail facility, and you will be able to share info offline :)
Bye
Althea
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Awesome thank you I am my families historian and I am always looking for new information. I have many many many lines to cover mostly Maori but my great grandfather Francis Rudolph Shortcliffe married 7 times so its an interesting ride.
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I've sent you a PM so you can see how it works
Hopeyou can make some posts on the main board when you have any 'brickwalls' we all like a challenge ;D
Bye
Althea
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thanks Althea since I am a "blonde" can I just add a thread to the main board?
Cheers
Mirinoa
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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,299.0.html
Yes go to the msin page above and start new topic
Goodluck
Bye
Althea
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Hi Lexxbabe
I havent got much information on Mary Taruke Taite - she was my great grandmother - my grandmother was Harriet's sister.
I have a photo of Mary and my great grandfather John McGregor. They passed away in 1945 and are buried at Waikumete Cemetary in Auckland. I believe they lived in the Raglan area and moved to Riverhead later on.
Im keen to learn more too.
Regards
Crystal
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Hi Crystal,
My wife is a descendent of Alexander McGregor and Hohi Ngapuhi. We have been researching this family for many years and have got a large collection of info.
Dawn's connection is through Henry McGregor born 1853 who married Mary Josephine Conway.Their daughter Flora May McGregor born 1883 married Monte George Waller.They had Nina May Waller who married George Clinton Petersen.
We would like to hear from you to share family info.
Thanks Ken
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Hi my name is Irene and Iam a descendant of Hohi Ngapuhi she is my Great Great Grandmother -
my Great Grand Parents were John Alexander McGregor and Mary Taruke Taite one of thier children was Harriet who married Francis Rudolph Shortcliffe and had thirteen children and died in childbirth at only 39yrs old all the children were put into catholic convents and he went on to marry again twice-
my mother (*)was one of these children - there were three girls
(*), BOYS -(*), and I cant remember the other two names I would love to hear from anyone who knows any more. One of my cousins (*)gave me the pictures I will attach to this post as our cousin Eyveln did a lot of research and found them but we do not have a picture of Harriet we have been to visit her grave at Waikumete Cemetry and we are tidying it up see pictures of Hohi attached I think she is beautiful. Also our Great Grand parents John and Mary Arohanui Irene
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Welcome Irene
I'm sure you will soon find some more contacts.
are all the people that you have named deceased? For privacy reasons we only list those who have passed.
Are there any particular lines that you need some help with?
All the relatives who have posted to this thread, will get an email automatically that there is new info on the thread so you should soon meet some new whanau
bye
Althea
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Hello yes they are all deceased
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Hi Irene
I will send you an email.
regards
Crystal
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Thank you so much Crystal for your message Irene
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Hi Irene
I have sent you an email with some photos to the email address you gave me yesterday.
Kind regards
Crystal :)
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Hello Crystal, Thank you so much for your emails I have sent several emails but they don't seem to be getting through to Rose ?
(*) this was the email address you gave me ..
I wondered if you could forward this for me thank you very much Irene
our email is (*)
Dear Rose,
Thank you so much for giving us your email address it is so amazing - a lot to take in our Cousin Michael * (Aunty Helen's eldest son is also very interested in the family tree and following everything with us) in fact he got most of his information from * Uncle Toms daughter but they are no longer in contact. We only recently got in contact with Mike ourselves as we were searching for Aunty Betty and found that she has recently passed away in Maroochydore Australia, and the person we were talking to gave us Michael’s number.
Our home email is (*) and Michael’s is (*) he is the loveliest person you could wish to meet and he was very close to your Dad for many years he did some wonderful things for him like make a new panel for his Jaquar car all by himself when he was only nineteen, he saw a very wonderful side to him, and cherishes his memories of Frank (Your dad).
Do you have a picture of our Grandmother Harriet ? at all we have been tending the grave when we found it – it was all overgrown but we have cleaned it up and put rocks around it as he is buried with our Grandmother Harriet and her little baby William James 5mths old just close to Christmas she buried her little boy how sad ! – we love her though we didn’t know her and now I know why Jesus wanted us to be buried as its so important to be able to go and put flowers there and chat to them. We would all love to hear from you. Love from Irene and Angela
2 x photos –
1st is Angela and Irene
2nd Mike and his Partner Val
3 x pic of your Grandmothers Resting place your little uncle William and your Dad’s we have only just started to make it nicer when we found it was all overgrown so we have put rocks around it and we are going to make mosaic stones with the names of all her children in the shape of a heart, but it will take a while – we have sought out the resting places of all the family and we will eventually tidy them all up it feels nice to do this we are happy to do it.
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my name is Sonya i am a decendant of Hohi Nga Puhi And Alexander McGregor. My linkage is through another son James Mc Gregor who married Heneti Te Waimarama Te Ohaere. They had several childern- James Paraire, Harry Davis, Anaru, Maggie married Ben Ngapo, Lena Kitemate married Jack Savage, Rose Pariha married Frederick Durrant, Christina married William Connor, Heneti Janet married Hurikino, Annie Marangi, William Piri, and John Tane Hone Te One married Minnie Matahaere Paora.
John and Minnie had 5 children- Riria Lilly, Harry, James Wharekiri, Andrew Tataikoko and my greatgrand father Kewa who married Isobel Pera Hutchinson. I was 4 Years old when my grandpoppa kewa died 28;12;1973. Grandnana Isobel died 30:4;1985. My grandmother, their daughter, was Agnes Mona Anatipa McGregor who married Parata Ainsley who had my mother. She was 1 of 9 children Catherine Anatipa Ainsley. She is buried at Waihi Public Cemetery. My grandparents and greatgrand parents also lay here. I have been searching for further information on Hohi Nga Puhi and Alexander McGregor. Thank you for the information you have provided. Any further information would be greatly appreciated.
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Hi Sonya
I havent been on this site for a long time and havent worked on my family history for some time. I will look into to my files and see if there is anything that would be of interest for you.
kind regards
Crystal
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my name is Sonya i am a decendant of Hohi Nga Puhi And Alexander McGregor. My linkage is through another son James Mc Gregor who married Heneti Te Waimarama Te Ohaere. They had several childern- James Paraire, Harry Davis, Anaru, Maggie married Ben Ngapo, Lena Kitemate married Jack Savage, Rose Pariha married Frederick Durrant, Christina married William Connor, Heneti Janet married Hurikino, Annie Marangi, William Piri, and John Tane Hone Te One married Minnie Matahaere Paora.
John and Minnie had 5 children- Riria Lilly, Harry, James Wharekiri, Andrew Tataikoko and my greatgrand father Kewa who married Isobel Pera Hutchinson. I was 4 Years old when my grandpoppa kewa died 28;12;1973. Grandnana Isobel died 30:4;1985. My grandmother, their daughter, was Agnes Mona Anatipa McGregor who married Parata Ainsley who had my mother. She was 1 of 9 children Catherine Anatipa Ainsley. She is buried at Waihi Public Cemetery. My grandparents and greatgrand parents also lay here. I have been searching for further information on Hohi Nga Puhi and Alexander McGregor. Thank you for the information you have provided. Any further information would be greatly appreciated.
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Hi
My name is Ralph. My Great Great Grandmother was also Hohipaia Ngapuhi who was the daughter
of Materena Waitangi.
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Hi Ralph,
Please be kind enough to reply to (*)
We will share info with you
Thanks Dawn and Ken
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Hi,
My name is Bronwyn and my Great, Great, Great Grandmother was also Hohipaea Nga Puhi. We have one image of her with the Moko dressed in European clothing. We would really like to learn more about her and where her and Alexander Mcgregor may be buried. Hohipaea is the link to our Maori heritage in our family history. We have information that she was a Maori Chiefness but are unsure if this is true. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you:)
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Hi Bronwyn
Please email me and I will send you some information.My email is: (*)
Regards
Ralph Murray
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Hi Ralph,
to avoid spamming etc RC does not allow email addys to be posted on threads,you will need to modify your post and send a message via the PM system
http://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php
Cheers Janette
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Hello Irene,
My name is Melanie and I am Evelyn's daughter.
There is a Shortcliffe family whakapapa wananga coming up...
I am new to this so hopefully I can find and add you on Facebook.
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Kia Ora,
I am descendent of Alexander McGregor and Hohipaea Ngapuhi.
My line of descant is as follows:
Alexander James McGregor + Hohipaea (Sophia) Ngapuhi
- My Great, great, great grandparents
James Alexander Hemi Paritu Te Riaki McGregor + Heneti Te Wairama Te Ohaere
- My Great, great Grandparents
Christina McGregor + Wiremu (Bill) Connor
- My Great Grandparents
William Connor + Dorothy Jessie Margaret Coxon
- My Grandparents
I have just been in touch with The Whakatohea Tribal Database Admin, and I was informed that Hohipaea's mother is not Matarena Waitangi, a common mistake it appears. I am still researching her mother's name, possibly Puata, but I have yet to confirm this.
Her father's name is Tuterangikawhia, this was obtained from a Maori Land Court document dated April 1st 1867, in which Hohipaea was making a claim for her mother's land at Te Tawa and Te Ruahoata in Opotiki.
I hope this helps
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Hi Nick, and welcome to RootsChat :) :)
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Could I ask you to please edit your post and delete the names of any living persons. :)
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Spades
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Also,
I have found a Cemetery record for Alexander McGregor at the Symonds Street Cemetery at the corner of Symonds St and Karangahape Rd in Auckland.
Although some of the information contained here does contradict itself.
There is a photo of the obelisk / headstone attached to the record.
You can search for it here:
http://www.aucklandcitylibraries.com/DigitalLibrary/resourcepages/cemetaryrecordssymonds.aspx
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Hohipaia Ngapuhi was my great, great, great Grandmother and I am wondering please if there is any information on her ancestors? I can't work out if her parents were Tuterangi Kawha and Puata Kawha OR Takoto Waimua and Materena Waitangi? Does anyone know if she was adopted? Any information you'd be happy to share would be greatly appreciated! I'd like to follow Hohipaia's ancestry back as far as possible
Thank you so much for your time :)
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my name is Sonya i am a decendant of Hohi Nga Puhi And Alexander McGregor. My linkage is through another son James Mc Gregor who married Heneti Te Waimarama Te Ohaere. They had several childern- James Paraire, Harry Davis, Anaru, Maggie married Ben Ngapo, Lena Kitemate married Jack Savage, Rose Pariha married Frederick Durrant, Christina married William Connor, Heneti Janet married Hurikino, Annie Marangi, William Piri, and John Tane Hone Te One married Minnie Matahaere Paora.
John and Minnie had 5 children- Riria Lilly, Harry, James Wharekiri, Andrew Tataikoko and my greatgrand father Kewa who married Isobel Pera Hutchinson. I was 4 Years old when my grandpoppa kewa died 28;12;1973. Grandnana Isobel died 30:4;1985. My grandmother, their daughter, was Agnes Mona Anatipa McGregor who married Parata Ainsley who had my mother. She was 1 of 9 children Catherine Anatipa Ainsley. She is buried at Waihi Public Cemetery. My grandparents and greatgrand parents also lay here. I have been searching for further information on Hohi Nga Puhi and Alexander McGregor. Thank you for the information you have provided. Any further information would be greatly appreciated.
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Hi,
My name is Bronwyn and my Great, Great, Great Grandmother was also Hohipaea Nga Puhi. We have one image of her with the Moko dressed in European clothing. We would really like to learn more about her and where her and Alexander Mcgregor may be buried. Hohipaea is the link to our Maori heritage in our family history. We have information that she was a Maori Chiefness but are unsure if this is true. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you:)
Hi Bronwyn,
I tried to PM your but it says your inbox is full. I'm also a descendant of Hohipaea and wondering if you would be so kind as to share a copy of the photo you mention with me as I don't believe i've seen it before and would love too.
P.S Kia Ora whanau :) my lineage;
-Hohipaea and Alex. James McGregor
- James/Hemi Alex. McGregor and Heneti Te Ohaere
- Lena/Rina Kitemate McGregor and John/Jack Savage
- My Nana was Christina Savage who married Ivor Birt
Thanks everyone who has shared on this thread, some great reading!
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Hi Jessm63,
Thank you for your reply and not too sure how to use this platform with ease. I have cleared my message so hopefully you can send me your email address as I am also unable to send a message to you. Would be great to connect!
Thanks, Bronwyn
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Hi Jessm63 and Bronwyn, and welcome to RootsChat :)
Bronwyn might need to make one more post to activate the Personal Message (PM) facility.
Just a post with a smiley will be fine, Bronwyn, then you can exchange information and email addresses.
If either of you have any questions about using the RootsChat forum please post them here and I’ll give you some guidance.
Regards,
Spades
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Hey there
Have you got much information on Alexander McGregor
My Granddads mum is Rose (putiputi) McGregor and his dad was Fredwick Durrant.
I'm trying to look back on my family history and our descendant and ansestory.
I would love to know for myself where my blood line came from and how it come to be. I would love this information for my children and future grandchildren we are all desendents or linked to Alexander McGregor
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Hello J J Julian
... Welcome to RootsChat. :)
It seems that many of the earlier participants in this thread, have not visited this forum for quite a number of years.
The most recent to login to RootsChat was "jessm63" on 7 May 2023, so hopefully they may have been alerted to the fact that another posting, (yours), has been made to this thread.
I hope there is a reply for you here, soon.
~ Lu