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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Staffordshire => England => Staffordshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: meggylux on Tuesday 16 June 09 09:23 BST (UK)
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Hi
Can anyone help me please. I have found a christening for David Shaw on igi 25th Dec 1825... St Peter or Collegiate (?sp), Wloverhampton, but I cannot find a marriage for his parents, JAMES & ELIZABETH.
In the census, I cannot find James, but in 1841, Elizabeth is 45 and living with David 15(no other children identified), in Dudley Worcs, in 1851, David is alone in lodgings in Bow London. So unfortunately I have not been able to find birthplaces, for James and Elizabeth.
However at this time I have found numerous members of the family, christened/married in the above named church. So if anyone has access to these records I would be grateful for a look up.
Thank you.... meggy
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Hello Meggy
Would this be of any interest..
Living next door to Elizabeth +David in 1841 cens at Dudley is a Benjamin Griffiths with wife Phebe age 22 born Worcs.(no children)
A Benj.Griffiths married a Phoebe Shaw in 1840 at St Johns Halesowen
On IGI Baptisms Phebe Shaw 1818 St Thomas Dudley
Josh. ......... 1817 ....................
James ..........1813 ................... Parents James +Elizab.Shaw
Maybe no connection but..A John Shaw age 23 miner born Worcs + wife(no children) is living next door to Griffiths (can't see a bapt)
Jackie
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Thanks Jackie
This is a possibility, as Phoebe is a name that appears in later generations. As I have found David with a 45 year old Elizabeth, he was born 1826, he could have been the last in the family so these could have been his siblings. However I need to do some more research with these as, there were another James and Elizabeth Shaw, although they were in Stoke on Trent.
Thank you again... Mandy
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Benj. +Phoebe Griffiths (Shaw) had a son David bapt 1851 St Thomas Dudley-Family still in Dudley in 1861.
I'm trying to find this family in 1851- Elizb.(possible mom) could be with them
Jackie.
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Hi Jackie
Once again thanks. I have Shaws coming out of my ears at the moment, I think I need to take a deep breath and take another look for Elizabeth with you.
David moved from London to Dudley then back to London, but all further generations come from Netherton, Dudley.
I have not found Elizabeth with David again, he married Ruth Round. I have all the info for him and subsequent generations. I am just trying to fiind James and his era.
meggy
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Found the Griffiths in 1861 at Dudley -sadly no Elizabeth.
Have found info re.bankruptcy - (you may already have this info)
I can send a p.m.
Jackie
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Thanks again Jackie. I have replied to pm,via pm... but Yes please.
I haven't found Elizabeth in 1851 yet either. I have checked the original census for 1841, which you too must have done. It is a bit confusing as Phebe and John state that they were born in the county (Worcs), whilst David was Staffs.
Another look at the igi, I think.. but it will have to be tomorrow now.
Thanks for all your help. meggy
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This site covers some baptisms for St. Peters Wolverhampton-it may or may not help!!
http://www.wolverhamptonarchives.dial.pipex.com/stpeter_baps1.htm
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Seasons Greetings Meggy,
I have been looking for the exact same James & Elizabeth Shaw for a while now too! They are my 3rd great grandparents! If you are also related then perhaps establishing the relationship between us will help with our search? If you could pm me to exchange email addresses then I will share the information I have, including my tree on ancestry.com, DNA matches, and clues/mysteries found during my search. I would pm you but I have just joined this site so I don't know how to do it yet!
Kind regards,
Chris
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Hi Kurisu
Thank you for your post. I have pm'd you
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Hi Chris, I've just joined this page and searched James Shaw and saw this thread. Was Elizabeth Shaw, nee Dunlop? and did they leave Ireland for New Zealand? If this is the same ones then they are my Great Grandparents.
Regards,
Neil
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Hi Neil,
I do not know if Elizabeth's maiden name was Dunlop, or whether they moved to new Zealand, but I do know that Elizabeth was born around 1790, which means they couldn't be your great grandparents. They would have to be at least your 2x great grandparents. They are my 3x great grandparents.
Regards,
Chris