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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Selkirkshire => Topic started by: worth on Friday 25 February 05 13:20 GMT (UK)
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Does anyone have any information on the surname 'Heatlie' from Scotland. I'm doing my familytree and they originally came from the boarder areas, (Selkirk). Any information greatly received.
Dawn
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hi dawn, just had a wee peek at the 1851 census for your family, there is 26 heatlie's on there living mainly in selkirk there births range from 1772 to 1850.
can i be of any help?
or can you update this post by any other information that you have found since this first post
happy hunting
Joe
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hi dawn my grandfather is a heatlie born in scotland.have some info looking for more
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Hi Bonnie
Did you send me a friend request on Facebook as well? My Heatlie family are from the borders of Scotland do you have a connection with them?
Thanks
Dawn
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hi Dawn,yes i did.i know my great granfather George Scott Heatlie,yes they are from borderes of scotland.i know i have relatives in england. tom heatlie and there is another brother.i do have more info.george had quit a few kids.hope to hear from you Bonnie
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I have Heatlie/Heatley ancestors who came from Nenthorn in Berwickshire.
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Hi, I have been doing research on my Heatlie ancesters but haven't traced it to the borders
as yet. Most of the info below comes from a small book called the 'Haitleys of Mellerstain',
written by Queen Victoria's surgeon about 1890. Mellerstain is an castle / estate in the borders.
I don't have access to my research at the moment, but have detailed below what I can remember from the top of my head.
The Heatlie's in Scotland came from French nobleman, called D'Porte, who were given lands in
a place called 'Hatley Park' in Cambridgeshire, by the king of england c1120 . They were persuaded by King David 1 of Scotland to settle in the borders, mainly Roxburgh, and given lands, including Mellerstain. The family name was changed to de Haitley, from the area in Cambridge, and has an official seal. Over the coming centuries they were involved in many battles including being charged for treason for the murder of Lord Darnley and the interception of Mary Queen of Scots between Edinburgh and Linlithgow. The name gradually changed to Hately, Heatlie etc and the main families can be found in Selkirk, Roxburgh, Berwick, Edinburgh and the north of england, where it is mostly spelt Heatley.
My ancesters lived in Edinburgh, Dalkeith, New Monkland (Airdrie), Broxburn, then back to Edinburgh.
Regards
Robert
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I am a 7th generation Canadian Heatlie, and am tracing my history from Scotland. There are a large amount of Heatlies in Selkirkshire and Roxburghshire that I am trying to connect to. I have only found record of a few Heatlies immigrating to the US, but none to Canada yet. I would love to hear from anyone who may have any Heatlie info. I have almost 1000 people in my family tree on Ancestry.ca and want to keep finding more.
Adam
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Hi Adam
I have friends in Selkirk that are Heatlies and if you go to BT phonebook on line and put in Heatlie and Selkirk it will come up with quite a list that may be of some use to you.
I know that James had a father called Tom that may have some connection to you.
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If any your Heatlie friends in Selkirk have some knowledge of their family history, I'd love to hear from them. Please forward my email to any of them you think can help. I'd love to know I would be related to them! adam dot heatlie at gmail dot com.
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Hi there, you mentioned a James Heatlie having a father named Tom. The last line of my family tree that I can connect to ends at a James Heatlie who was married to Agnes (Ann) Sanderson. I can't find anything out about them as they were born and married in Edinburgh and moved to Canada.
Is this the same James you are referring to?
Adam
Hi Adam
I have friends in Selkirk that are Heatlies and if you go to BT phonebook on line and put in Heatlie and Selkirk it will come up with quite a list that may be of some use to you.
I know that James had a father called Tom that may have some connection to you.
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Sorry Adam they are not connected to my friends. :(
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Im a Heatlie, if this helps, i am looking for info on my grandfather James Logie Heatlie, if anyone can help.. :)
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James Logie was born 26 May 1916 and died 20 Jan 1975 both in Edinburgh. Was married to Margaret Mitchell (Peggy) Logie.
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do you have any other info on my grandfathers side at all, have done some on my grandmothers(Peggy) side, but have little on him, thank you for replying. :)
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Nothing else yet Michelle. I will keep looking. If you wish, send me a private message with more of your family information. That might help.
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Did you manage to get the details about the Heatlies you needed?
In 1903 the first of The Heatlie family started their involvement as Burgh Officers for the town of Selkirk and this continues to this day with James and Andrew continuing the roll.
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Hi Bryansouter
I am doing my Heatlie familytree and i am a ancestor of the Burgh officers that you mentioned from selkirk. I was lucky enough to meet Andrew a few years ago and he helped me fil in a few gaps. i have photos of all the Heatlie burgh officers from 1903 onwards as it was passed from father to son, my greatgrandfather was supposed to have taken it over but he moved to England and so it was given to his brother Tommy who was Andrews father.
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I am looking for information on Relatives of Andrew Heatlie, married to Eliza Aiken. He was born in Selkirkshire in 1844 and his father was William Heatlie, married to Mary Scott. I am a great granddaughter of William Heatlie who lived in San Francisco, California, US.
I would love to know more about them.
Sincerely,
Katie Johnson
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Hi Coolmumkj
I havent got your Andrew Heatlie or Eliza Aiken in my Heatlie tree but i can give you a bit of info on them. There was two Heatlie familys in Selkirk, the 'Castle street Heatlies' which my lot come from and then there was the 'Bridge street Heatlies' which is your William Heatlie and Mary Scotts side. I dont know if there was any connection between the two but i have recently set up a 'Bridge street Heatlies' family tree on the Ancestry website to see if i can find some sort of link somewhere, living in a small town like Selkirk at that time i would think there is a link somewhere but its just finding it. Somebody sent me a picture of the Bridge street Heatlies which i still have if you would like it emailing over.
Dawn
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dawn its alan turnbull. can you send me a pm re heatlies plse,
alan
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Hi Alanwq
Just sent you a pm.
Dawn
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I'm looking for information on Andrew Heatlie who married Mary Turnbull in Selkirk on 9 December 1854. Mary was my ancestor, who's father Thomas Turnbull was innkeeper of the Black Bull Inn, Selkirk. Thomas was born in 1795 in Hobkirk and married Ann Oliver (I come from her family). I read somewhere that Andrew and Mary emigrated to the USA in 1856.
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HI Alessandralee All i have is a list from the local ministers diary listing those who were emigrating.It says married to A Hallie but it should read Heatlie.I think someone mispelt or read it wrong from the writing/It is obviously the right couple.
"Selkirk Migrants 1850-1865"
"The following is a list of emigrants from Selkirk to various parts of the world both home and"
"abroad which have been extracted from the private diary of the then Minister of"
"Selkirk Parish Church."
"The notes are frequently enlivened by the Ministers comments on the personalities of the persons involved, some not entirely complimentary!!"
"The diary and a run of Kirk Session records dating from 1701 has been sent to the"
"Scottish Records Office for processing."
"BROWN, Andrew, Tailor, Water Row. To America with his wife and family 14-4-1854."
"BURNET, Hannah.(Mrs Dalgleish), Feuar, The Brockle , Her son William in Canada. BALLANTYNE, Adam, Weaver, East Fews. To America May 1856(A very promising young"
"man)"
"BAPTIE, Robert, Broadmeadows. from U.P. Church Innerleithen. To America May 1857"
"CRANSTOWN, Eliz. Millener. Marketplace to Edinburgh 1853."
"COWAN, William. Shoemaker. Kirk Wynd. Whereabouts unknown (moonlight flitting) CURRIE, William. Tanner. Dunsdale Cottages. To Australia with wife and children 1858. CAVERS, Mgt. Servant. Faldonside. To America May 1855 (“Ignorant”)"
"CAVERS, Francis. Farm Servant. Ettrickbank. Came from Hawick from the Congregation of"
"Rev.A.Thomson. To America .May 1855."
"DAVIDSON, George. Joiner. Gala Road. Son of James Davidson, gardener, also of Gala Road .To"
"America May 1854."
"DRYDEN, Mrs. Housekeeper. Back Row. To England 1861."
"DRYDEN, Mgt.(Mrs Galbraith) Back Row. To England 1861.Lived in Appleby. Then to"
"Australia."
"DOBSON, Wm. Tinsmith. The Green. To Bury St Edmunds.1854. FAIRBAIRN, Betty. Millworker.To America 1857."
"FLETCHER, Jane. Housekeeper. To Edinburgh after a marriage to a mason.To Australia.1854. GOVENLOCK James Coachman. To Innerleithen 1855."
"GOVENLOCK, Walter. Tailor. Elibank. To America 1854. GOVENLOCK, John .Labourer. To America April 1854.(with his wife)"
"GOVENLOCK, Andrew. Farmer, Ocherhall. Returned from Poland 1854. Had left Selkirk 1830 to live 30 miles from Warsaw. Returned with wife and two children(Beanston (?)"
"and Margaret.)"
"GALBRAITH, John. Shepherd. Married Margaret Dryden (see above) Daughter, Janet born 1854."
"To Australia 1863."
"HEAL, Isabella. Servant. Bowden Manse. Married to son of Thomas INGLIS. To Canada 1851. HENDERSON, Mrs James .(Nanny Hope) Left for Canada April 1855."
"HENDERSON, James. Weaver. Back Row. Son of Mr Fox. Enlisted in the 42nd Highlanders."
"Fought in the Crimea (Admonished by the Session) HILL, Agnes. Housekeeper. Gala Rig. To Van Diemansland 1854"
"INGLIS, Andrew. Mason. Dunsdalehaugh. Died 1861. INGLIS, James. Weaver. Dunsdalehaugh. To America 1856. INGLIS, William. Millwright. Dunsdalehaugh. To London 1855."
"407"
"JOHNSTON, Mgt. Servant. Carterhaugh. From U.P. Church Galashiels.To America 1857."
"KERR, Thomas. Mason Hawick Road. To Nova Scotia 1852 (Son went out 1856) LILLICO,John. Labourer. Sweepsnest. To Australia.1855.Accompanied by his wife and son,"
"Andrew, a Labourer."
"MASON, Joseph.Labourer.13 Sunderland Toll. To America 1856.Accompanied by wife and children."
"MITCHELHILL, William. Ploughman. Hartwoodmyres. To America 1856."
"OLIVER, Samuel. Mason.. Chapel street. Wife was the daughter of Wm.Rutherford, Haining"
"Gate. Had 6 children below 14 in 1851. All to America 1852. PATTERSON, Janet. Annuitant. Philiphaugh. To West Canada.1854. PATERSON, George. Shepherd. The Muschra. To America 1852."
"PARK, Elizabeth and Euphemia. Foulshiels. To America 1854."
"RINTOUL, Henry. Forester Rink. Father of 4 boys, the youngest baptised 1854. To Australia with wife and family Sept. 1854.(“A frank warn hearted man. He was particularly active at the time of the liquidation of the church debt. His wife is a nice woman. Hope well of them”)"
"SHEARER, Jessie, Servant. Elmpark. Came from Edinburgh.(Church in Albany Street) 1850 to America.(“A very good feeling hearted and I think pious person. Was much affected at parting with me.”)"
"SCOTT, Mary. At Mills Hermitage Street. Married to R .Emond. To Australia. 1854.
TURNBULL, Miss. Milliner. Black Bull, Market Place. Married to A. Hallie. To America 1856.
WILLISON, Walter. Stocking Manufacturer. Chapel Street. To Australia 1855.His wife also went.."
"(The above list was previously published in the Border Family History Society Magazine to which"
"we are indebted.)"
Hope this helps
alan
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Thank you Alan, that is interesting about the name being spelt differently, but it sounds like the Mary Turnbull I am related to. Cheers
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Dawn, I'm also looking for Heatlie's from Selkirk. The only information I have is that an Andrew Heatlie from Selkirk married Mary Turnbull in 1854 and they went to the USA in 1856
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Hi alessandralee
I have done my Heatlie familytree, and your Andrew Heatlie and Mary Turnbull are indeed in the same one, Andrews father Thomas Heatlie was brother to my x6 grandfather William Heatlie. I don't have any info on the Turnbull side of the family but plenty on the Heatlies, what info do you need and ill have look for you x x
Dawn
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Almost forgot to say, Andrew Heatlie was my 1st cousin 6x removed. ;-/
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Dawn, Mary Turnbull was my 1st cousin 4 x removed (this gets so confusing) lol. Her mother Ann's brother Adam was my 4th great grandfather who came to Australia. I would like to know where Mary and Andrew lived in the USA, when they died, and any information on their children. Would it be easier if I gave you my email address? I would appreciate any information you have on them. Thanks heaps. Cheers
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Hiya
Yes if you can send me your email it will be easier x
Dawn
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No worries, Dawn. My email address is sandra.taylor6@bigpond.com
I appreciate your help. Cheers xx
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Just sent you a test email, can you let me know its come through ok please.
Dawn
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Hi all,
First of all, I just registered and dug through this whole chain. So much fascinating information and resources. Thank you all!
Second, I descended from Jessie Heatlie Scott and Thomas Douglas Moyes both from Selkirk. Jessie was a Castle St. Heatlie I believe based on census data showing her and family residing in Kirkwynd and Castle St throughout the years. I've spent a good bit of time digging through census data, Kirk session records, and tracking down birth/marriage/death certificates. There are a number of illegitimate references in birth certificates and I'm wondering if anyone has clues.
Jessie Heatlie - Mother consistently listed as Janet Heatlie (b. 1837) but father is not listed or is referenced using 'illegitimate'
Janet Heatlie - Death certificate lists mother as Mary Heatlie and father as William Heatlie. Baptismal record has same parents listed; however, a more likely biological mother appears to be Jessie Thorburn ...
Jessie Thorburn - Based on census data and signing as a witness for key events such as marriages and deaths, I believe Jessie was the biological mother of Janet Heatlie, Andrew Heatlie, James Heatlie, and Archibald (John) Heatlie. She was also likely the biological grandmother of Jessie Heatlie Scott and was witness to her wedding to Thomas Moyes.
Do these names/families ring any bells? I'm quite curious to confirm whether Jessie Thorburn was the biological mother of Janet. I have my tree with notes and documents listed on ancestry and publicly available for those interested.
Michael Moyes