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Title: Sagar family - Barnsley
Post by: Starry on Friday 25 February 05 14:17 GMT (UK)
I'm researching all Sagar families from Barnsley, West Yorkshire. I have plenty of information going back to the early 1800's.

If anyone has information, or would like information, please contact me.
Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Sagar family
Post by: Ticker on Friday 25 March 05 16:47 GMT (UK)
Hi Starry

There is a registered one name study of the SAGAR Family.  You may be able to find more details on the Guild of One Name Studies website at www.one-name.org

On the home page click "Registered Names" and you will find the details of the person who has registered the study.

Best wishes

Ticker
Title: Re: Sagar family
Post by: dogwalker on Tuesday 04 October 05 21:03 BST (UK)
I have done quite a bit of research on sagars barnsley most of my family that i have trced lived in worsboro common born 1835 m. mary ann nee semley then i get stuck! any info that may help me?
ian.
Title: Re: Sagar family
Post by: Starry on Tuesday 04 October 05 22:07 BST (UK)
I'm a little confused. Who is Mary Ann Semley, and who was born in 1835?
Title: Re: Sagar family
Post by: dogwalker on Wednesday 05 October 05 21:47 BST (UK)
sorry,
must have been a tryping error
mary ann semley was the wife of edward sagar.
according to the 1881 census they lived at cannon st
worsboro common barnsley
cheers,  ian
Title: Re: Sagar family
Post by: Starry on Wednesday 05 October 05 22:21 BST (UK)
Ahh, gotcha now :)

Ok, well, I have Edward marrying Mary Ann Harper, but that could be my error. If I have the right one, he is the son of my 3xGGrandmother, Elizabeth. I believe he was a twin, with Thomas. I should add, that I don't have any birth certs to confirm this, so they could be one of Joseph and Elizabeths childrens kids.

Joseph, Elizabeths husband, repotedly died in the Barnsley Colliery disaster in 1849. My 2xGGrandfather was born in 1850, possibly his but I'm unsure as there is no father on his birth cert.

Do you have any certificates at all?

Let me know what I can help you with :)
Title: Re: Sagar family
Post by: dogwalker on Wednesday 05 October 05 23:08 BST (UK)
hello again,
unfortunately i dont have any certificates,but i do have a list of sagars from 1891 census thanks to barnsley FHS
@ 8 henry st worsboro common
edward sagar  head age 36 coal miner
mary                 wife age 26
thomas              son age  7
emma                daughter  age 5

you mentioned josephs wife elizabeth, was her maiden name hewitt by any chance

Title: Re: Sagar family
Post by: Starry on Thursday 06 October 05 09:08 BST (UK)
If only lol - they are a very complicated family.
Elizabeths maiden name is Rennison. She and Joseph married c1838. She married William Hewitt in 1883, when she was 64. Edward was one of 11 (I think).

Joseph was born c1819 in Barnsley. Elizabeth was born c1819 in Thirsk.
Title: Re: Sagar family
Post by: Lilygirl on Wednesday 23 November 05 22:56 GMT (UK)
Hiya peoples
I'm looking for info on Hannah Sagar.
She was meant to have married an Andrew Aylmer late 1820s but not sure how!
He was married to a Hannah Cooper but some records show a Hannah Sagar too so maybe it was short not sure if she died or what!
ALso got info from an old letter (gmothers sister wrote the letter) saying her gmother cleggs mother was married twice first to a Sagar then to an Aylmer.
Anyway it goes on to mention Colonel Sagar and a wife that was perpetually pregnant. The wifes sister lived with them. Wife died and sister wasn't allowed to stay so they went to France so they could get married then were ostrasied when they got back despite his wealth and standing.
Goes on to mentin few other related families and also info about a hunting acccident died agonising death refusing to have leg amputated. If you're interested to hear more let me know.
Andrew was born Southfield Colne, Lancs. 1783
Lilygirl
Title: Re: Sagar family
Post by: Starry on Wednesday 23 November 05 23:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Lilygirl,

The earliest Hannah Sagar I have was born in 1848, but I don't have many names that far back. Was she born in Barnsley, ro somewhere else?
Title: Re: Sagar family
Post by: Lilygirl on Thursday 24 November 05 06:01 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I have no idea where she was born sorry!
The joys of genealogy eh! LOL

Happy hunting
Title: Re: Sagar family
Post by: Starry on Thursday 24 November 05 10:44 GMT (UK)
I have just looked on the IGI for details of the marriage. Andrew appears to have married twice on the same day. However, one record was extracted from the local records, whilst the other was submitted by a member. All member submissions should be taken with a pinch of salt until they are verified at source (ie parish records).

I would think, looking at the two entries, that Hannah married twice. She was either born a Sagar or a Cooper - possibly a Cooper since this record is not extracted, and the extracted record would usually contain the current name, rather than maiden name.

I'd suggest getting a copy of the record if you can, so you can check :)
Title: Re: Sagar family
Post by: Lilygirl on Thursday 24 November 05 22:25 GMT (UK)
Hi,
Thanks for your reply.
How do you tell if they're extracted or submitted??
Title: Re: Sagar family
Post by: Starry on Thursday 24 November 05 22:32 GMT (UK)
It usually says at the bottom of the entry....

Messages:
 Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. 

or...

Messages:
 Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter. 
Title: Re: Sagar family - Barnsley
Post by: Bob Sagar on Monday 29 July 19 15:34 BST (UK)
You have Edward marrying Mary Ann Harper according to some information I have that is true.

Mary Anne Harper 1863-1926 & Edward Sagar 1854-1909 if we are on the same tracks.