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Title: 1841 / 1851 Sudbury - JOHNSON
Post by: girlstitcher on Saturday 26 February 05 13:52 GMT (UK)
Hi

I think my husbands  great x 1 grandfather Henry Johnson was born in Sudbury abt 1849

His father was William and could have  married either Susannah Tuffin or Susan Sidey about 1844

Any information would be wonderful as I have hit a wall !!!!

Many thanks
Title: Re: 1841 / 1851 Sudbury - JOHNSON
Post by: Rick on Monday 31 October 05 13:49 GMT (UK)
Hi

I'm doing a spot of housekeeping.  Do you still need this information please?

Rick :)
Title: Re: 1841 / 1851 Sudbury - JOHNSON
Post by: girlstitcher on Monday 31 October 05 20:26 GMT (UK)
Hi Rick

Many thanks for keeping track, and yes any information would be gratefully received.

Regards

Yvonne
Title: Re: 1841 / 1851 Sudbury - JOHNSON
Post by: Bryant on Monday 31 October 05 20:30 GMT (UK)
girlstitcher

1841 census
SUDBURY UNION WORKHOUSE, SUFFOLK
SUSAN TUFFEN  18   N (not born in county)
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only two Susan Sidey (variants) in Suffolk/Norfolk/Essex and they are in Essex in 1841.

SUSAN SIDAY  28  GREAT HENNY, ESSEX
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SUSAN SIDAY  15  LAMARSH, ESSEX
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their are 13 William Johnson's aged between 15-25 in the 1841 census for Suffolk...........remember that if the age is not known in the 1841 it is rounded down  ie  15-20 = 15, 25-30 = 25 etc etc

Regards
Bryant
Title: Re: 1841 / 1851 Sudbury - JOHNSON
Post by: Rick on Tuesday 01 November 05 12:57 GMT (UK)
Hi

I think my husbands  great x 1 grandfather Henry Johnson was born in Sudbury abt 1849

His father was William and could have  married either Susannah Tuffin or Susan Sidey about 1844

Any information would be wonderful as I have hit a wall !!!!

Many thanks

I cannot find a Henry born circa 1849 in Sudbury itself on the 51 index, but there is one born at Lawshall which is in Sudbury Registration District.  However, his parents are Thomas and Ann.

He doesn't seem likely, but if you would like the details, let me know.

Rick :)

Title: Re: 1841 / 1851 Sudbury - JOHNSON
Post by: girlstitcher on Tuesday 01 November 05 18:00 GMT (UK)
Rick and Bryant

I think I may have found my Henry Johnson, it looks as though he may have been born in Halesworth.

I have found a family of Johnsons with the parents of William and Maria living in Chediston Street ( these being  Henry's grandparents ) on the 1861 census although he is recorded as Harry !!!! and it looks as though his mother was Elizabeth, with a maiden name of Denny .

So thanks to you both for helping me

Regards

girlsticher
Title: Re: 1841 / 1851 Sudbury - JOHNSON
Post by: Bryant on Tuesday 01 November 05 19:43 GMT (UK)
Hello girlstitcher

Henry's are often called Harry's and have been for hundreds of years, so not a surprise there!

1841 Census
Chediston Street, Halesworth, Suffolk.......HO107/1015/16

William Johnson  40    ???   Y
Maria       "            4             Y
Hezecah  "           14            Y
Hepseba  "           12           Y
Samuel    "            15 shoemaker ap  Y
William    "             9             Y
Sidny       "             8             Y
Eliza        "             7              Y
Harriot     "             5              Y
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also in Chediston Street
William Johnson  20  painter J (journeyman)  Y
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*Maria is definitely transcribed as aged 4 and on looking at the original it is as clear as day...........so why is she placed immediately below William aged 40!............and not in her pecking order at the bottom of the pile........one has to assume the 0 has completely disappeared over time or the enumerator forgot to put the 0 to the 40?

Hopefully this will lead to the 1851 for this family and William aged 20 and you get closer to your goal

Have fun
Bryant
Title: Re: 1841 / 1851 Sudbury - JOHNSON
Post by: Rick on Wednesday 02 November 05 12:07 GMT (UK)
This looks like Henry in 51.

HO107/1803 Folio 561b
Chediston St
Halesworth

DENNY Sophia, Head, Widow, 67, Mangler, b Halesworth
JOHNSON William, Son in law, 30, Painter Journeyman, b Harlestone, Norfolk
JOHNSON Elizabeth, Dau, 36, b Halesworth
JOHNSON Caroline, Grandau, 8, Dame School, b Halesworth
JOHNSON William, Grandson, 6, Dame School, b Halesworth
JOHNSON Charles, Grandson, 4, Dame Scool, b ditto
JOHNSON Henry Denny, 1, b ditto

Living next door

JOHNSON
William, Head, Married, 53, Chimney Sweep, b Grantham, Leicestershire
Maria, Wife, 52, b Huntingfield Suffolk
Sidney, Son, 19, Cabinet Maker, b Halesworth
Harriot, Dau, 15, Scholar, b ditto
Philip, Son, 8, Scholar, b ditto

Rick :)
Title: Re: 1841 / 1851 Sudbury - JOHNSON
Post by: Bryant on Wednesday 02 November 05 16:06 GMT (UK)
girlstitcher

A lesson to be learnt..............if you think people in the rest of the household are not relevant.....never ever discount them  :-[
William the journeyman painter from the 1841 on my earlier reply.......well he is staying with
SOPHIA DENNY  50  WIDOW  Y
ELIZABETH  "     20                 Y

Hello girlstitcher

Henry's are often called Harry's and have been for hundreds of years, so not a surprise there!

1841 Census
Chediston Street, Halesworth, Suffolk.......HO107/1015/16

William Johnson 40 ??? Y
Maria " 4 Y
Hezecah " 14 Y
Hepseba " 12 Y
Samuel " 15 shoemaker ap Y
William " 9 Y
Sidny " 8 Y
Eliza " 7 Y
Harriot " 5 Y
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also in Chediston Street
William Johnson 20 painter J (journeyman) Y
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*Maria is definitely transcribed as aged 4 and on looking at the original it is as clear as day...........so why is she placed immediately below William aged 40!............and not in her pecking order at the bottom of the pile........one has to assume the 0 has completely disappeared over time or the enumerator forgot to put the 0 to the 40?

Hopefully this will lead to the 1851 for this family and William aged 20 and you get closer to your goal

What a mug
Have fun
Bryant
Title: Re: 1841 / 1851 Sudbury - JOHNSON
Post by: linnet27 on Thursday 23 October 08 21:59 BST (UK)

Rick and Bryant


I think I may have found my Henry Johnson, it looks as though he may have been born in Halesworth.

I have found a family of Johnsons with the parents of William and Maria living in Chediston Street ( these being  Henry's grandparents ) on the 1861 census although he is recorded as Harry !!!! and it looks as though his mother was Elizabeth, with a maiden name of Denny .

So thanks to you both for helping me

Regards

girlsticher


Hi

I came accross this having searched on Johnson and Halesworth to see if I had missed anything prior to joining Roots.  I have similar names, but there are some differences and I wonder if I have missed something, or got it wrong.  I would hate to find I am tracing the wrong family!

I have William Johnson (1799) married to Maria. They have children Charles, Samuel, Maria, Hezikiah, Hepzibah, William, Sidney, Eliza, Ephraim, Harriet and George and possibly Alfred and Phillip.  However, there is no Henry (Harry).

William snr. is a chimney sweep and his son William (b 1831) is described as Artist and Colourist in 1861, Artist landscape painter in 1881 and 1891.

Sidney (b 1833). is my husband's 2 x ggrandfather.

I would be grateful for any reassurance that I am on the right track.  Perhaps "girlstitcher" and I have ancestral in-laws in common, although I haven't come across the Denny family.

Thanks

Lynne
Title: Re: 1841 / 1851 Sudbury - JOHNSON
Post by: Sarah Springall on Wednesday 24 January 18 19:09 GMT (UK)
Hi, I know it's been quite a while since your post but I believe I could be distantly related to you!
My great, great, great grandfather was Hezekiah Johnson. It would be great if you could get in touch.
Title: Re: 1841 / 1851 Sudbury - JOHNSON
Post by: linnet27 on Thursday 25 January 18 18:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Sarah, I am still here! Happy to share information with you.

Lynne