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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Louth => Topic started by: BRETA on Saturday 11 July 09 07:19 BST (UK)
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Would like to discover exactly where in County Louth, Thomas Andrew Mathews was born on the 12 May 1825, Maybe Louth, Co Louth. Also more about his parents and other siblings.
Thomas`s father was also Thomas and is said to have lived to the ripe old age of 103, could have died in Ireland or England?
Thomas MATHEWS ( born 1825) married 24 Nov 1850 at St CUTHBERT`S RC Church, Bedford Rd, North Sheilds in the Diocese of Hexham and Newcastle, Eng. The marriage cert shows Thomas`s parents as Thomas and Margaret MATHEWS, Thomas and a ANN MATHEWS were witnesses at wedding. The bride was MARY DEVINE born 1831? Whitehaven, Eng. Mary`s parents were residence of South Sheilds, her father PATRICK DEVINE (Potter/ Sea Captain by trade), mother MARGARET FEGAN/FELAN?
Thomas Mathews crossed to Eng 1839, learning trade as shipwright, spenting 17 years in Eng before travelling to Australia in 1857, where his property Louth, became the town of Louth, NSW. Leaving his father, wife and children in England, selling up their properties in Ireland. Mary( age 33) and children arrived in Aust in 1862.
Sorry! Mathews is such a common name. Mathews with one T.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
Sue.
Moderator's Comment: title edited to remove excess capitals
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I obtained the Church Burial Record of Thomas MATHEWS who died 10 May 1878, Parish/District; Dunleer, County Louth, IRE., Roman Catholic. Address; Balladoea.
That is all the information given on burial record. Seems there much have been no family around to see Thomas leave this world in his 103 rd year.
The only info that might help, is the address, but unfortunately, I can`t find a Balladoea. So would be very grateful if anyone can help?
Bid Baaner, one of Thomas Mathews descendands died this week at the grand age of 102 yrs 6mths.
Thankyou for your time.
God bless,
Sue.
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Did the church record actually say that this Thomas Mathews was 103 years old?
Only death registration for that period in Co. Louth that I can find is for a Thomas Mathews (age 70) Apr./June 1878 Ardee registration district (covers Louth/Meath) volume 2 page 315.
Tried to find the townland but at the moment the SeanRuad site doesn't seem to be working http://www.thecore.com/seanruad
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Thank you for that, at least I know the burial record, can`t be the right Thomas MATHEWS as his son Thomas Andrew ( born; 12th MAY 1825, Louth?county Louth, IRE/ died 15th DEC. 1913, NSW Aust. parents; Thomas and Margaret ) wrote that his father lived to be 103.
No! the age wasn`t given, but seeing it was the only death for a Thomas MATHEWS in Louth, took my chances.
25 years ago an Australian decendant who was working as a vet in Ireland, applied for a death cert. of a Thomas Mathews who died 1871/7 ? No copy of certificate was received and was advised that the records were in to fragile a state to be copied.
A kind young lady who does look ups on the net, went through the IGI film for the birth of Thomas Andrew Mathews, born 1825, mentioned above, with no results. She said the poor quality ink that was used for 1/4 of the year, now made the records, unreadable.
Seems like I`ve been hitting my head against a brick wall for the last 25 years, without making any progress. So any help you can give, would be gratefully received.
God bless,
Sue.
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From info that was recently given to me Thomas Mathews( sometimes spelt Matthews) was born 1795, Louth, Louth, Ireland and died 1898, age 103, wife Margaret............? They were the parents of Thomas Andrew Mathews born 12 May 1825, Louth, Louth. Ireland. Wife Mary Devine was born 1829(?), Whitehaven, Cumberland, England.
Any info to confirm the birth and death dates of Thomas Mathews would be a great help and lead to the discovery of their children. Son Thomas Mathews born 1825 was RC.
Thankyou for your time.
Sue.
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Civil registration index is online (free) and an 1898 death should have been registered. I had a quick look but couldn't find any Thomas Matthews nearly as old as 103 but here's the link so you can search yourself in case I missed it:
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails&c=fs%3A1408347
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Thankyou for the great site, hadn`t come across Ireland Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958 in that format of family search before.
Like you, I didn`t find the death of Thomas Mathews in 1898. but all comes to those who wait, in the end.
Thankyou for your time.
Sue.
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Civil registration index is online (free) and an 1898 death should have been registered. I had a quick look but couldn't find any Thomas Matthews nearly as old as 103 but here's the link so you can search yourself in case I missed it:
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails&c=fs%3A1408347
Actually, this is not the Civil Registration Index - just a link to the Familysearch Pilot beta-test site. I have not yet heard of anyone who likes it (the alpha-test was a whole lot better). Put in a name and a fairly accurate date and you will get every instance of that name in the records. I looked for the death of Francis Mathews, in Ardee, in the period 1910-1930. What I got was 83008 results returned, covering the world fromAustralia to California to Co.Louth. Not a lot of use until the Familysearch people get the filters on their search engine sorted out.
Geoff
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If you carry out the search you just mentioned on the link aghadowey provided you should get 75 results all in Ireland... and that includes births, marriages & deaths. Setting the filter to Co. Louth decreases this to just 19.
When the website launches close the option to go to the beta website at the top of the screen to go to the older pilot site.
Shane
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Well, I just tried this - this time I got no results at all.
The search engine would not even recognise Co. Louth as a location.
Reading the comments on the Beta-site, it is fairly obvious that the only people who like the new site are within the familysearch organisation.
I have just looked for another family member and the site would not even recognise Ireland as a location.
Out of six test searches - only one produced a (correct) result
Makes a chocolate fireguard look rather useful.
Geoff
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see the screenshot below for the search I tried for the death of Francis Mathews between 1910 and 1930. In the location field just type Louth... as you do so a list of choices is displayed, including Louth, Ireland.
Four results should be shown for the search, including three deaths..
Shane
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OK, I tried it exactly as in your screenshot - I got 21 hits, none of which was the 1914 death in the greyed-out panel of the screenshot. Three of them were for dates far outside the search parameters.
As a matter of interest, which web browser were you using? This should not make a difference, but I am using Firefox, and I will try it in IE6.
Geoff
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OK, I tried it exactly as in your screenshot - I got 21 hits, none of which was the 1914 death in the greyed-out panel of the screenshot. Three of them were for dates far outside the search parameters.
As a matter of interest, which web browser were you using? This should not make a difference, but I am using Firefox, and I will try it in IE6.
Geoff
I used Firefox 3.6 when I did that screenshot. The results should be the same in other compatible browsers - e.g. IE, Chrome etc
I think that greyed out record in the background is actually from 1934. Sometimes near-miss records a few years outside the years selected are returned.
It can be tricky finding details on the index and can sometimes take a couple of different searches to find possible matches. It's also worth trying alternate spellings of names, as sometimes these were recorded or indexed under a variation. E.g. try the spelling Matthews as an option... this gives another three results, although none fit your registration district or timeframe.
Do you know approximately what year your Francis was born ?
Shane
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Hi Shane
1 - tried in IE, still got the 21 hits.
2 - "Our" Francis was born approx 1851 (based on the two available census returns).
3 - I have tried the Beta several times and found it a complete pain to use. Testing it against known data (i.e. where I have a copy of the relevant cert to hand) will sometimes deliver a correct result. Most times it does not.
Got the magnifying glass out and agree withyou that the grayed out date is 1934
Seriously, it can only just about be called a Beta version. It may be the only free, online, game in town, but the interface is rubbish, most of the filters only work sometimes, and entering the same search criteria again can produce wildly differing results.
Done properly, it could be a most valuable resource - but right now it is not being done properly.
Geoff