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Title: COMPLETED * 1861 Census - decipher help please Sussex
Post by: mshrmh on Saturday 11 July 09 16:13 BST (UK)
This is from the 1861 Census RG 09 Piece 2612 Folio 64 Page 12 - the Bailey family  - can anyone work out the place of birth of the youngest (William) in Sussex? Most of the page are Staffordshire Biddulph - mother Ellen is Hampshire Southampton (other Staffs places on same page are Chell, Tunstall, Rushton and Horton). Thanks
Title: Re: 1861 Census - decipher help please
Post by: Isobelruss on Saturday 11 July 09 16:19 BST (UK)
Looks like Wurthen ?? to me
Title: Re: 1861 Census - decipher help please Sussex
Post by: lizdb on Saturday 11 July 09 16:25 BST (UK)
meaning 'Worthing'   ???  ;D
Title: Re: 1861 Census - decipher help please Sussex
Post by: lizdb on Saturday 11 July 09 16:28 BST (UK)
Well I never - I was having a bit of a laugh with that one

BUT

1851
HO107 2167 593 3

Same family
William pob clearly Worthing, Sussex
Title: Re: 1861 Census - decipher help please Sussex
Post by: mshrmh on Saturday 11 July 09 16:32 BST (UK)
Many thanks - lizdb can you please give me a reference for 1851 as I haven't got them on that yet (I'm on FindMyPast which is incomplete) - now trying to imagine what a Staffordshire farmer's wife was doing in Worthing in 1840/1841 ???

OOPs - modified - realised as I hit post you'd already done that - apologies!!!!!
Title: Re: 1861 Census - decipher help please Sussex
Post by: lizdb on Saturday 11 July 09 16:37 BST (UK)
Do you want the full transcript of it, or have you got access?
Title: Re: 1861 Census - decipher help please Sussex
Post by: mshrmh on Saturday 11 July 09 16:39 BST (UK)
lizdb - I'd appreciate the full transcript for 1851, many thanks again.
Title: Re: 1861 Census - decipher help please Sussex
Post by: lizdb on Saturday 11 July 09 16:49 BST (UK)
Troughstones? Lane, Biddulph, Staffs

Thomas 54 Dealer in Glass and China bn Biddulph
Ellen 43 bn SOuthampton, Hampshire
James 22 bn Biddulph
Thomas 18 bn Biddulph
John 15 bn Biddulph
Hannah 11 or 12 bn Biddulph
William 8 bn Worthing Sussex

Now I was worried for a mo that I havent got the right family, as you say he was a farmer, and this one is a glass n china dealer.
But wifes birtplace, and all children tie up, so I am sure it is.

Title: Re: 1861 Census - decipher help please Sussex
Post by: mshrmh on Saturday 11 July 09 19:43 BST (UK)
Lizdb - thanks - I agree it's the right one - he was a farmer in 1861 & in his will ("of Troughstones" died 1868) - must have branched out a bit in 1851 - I'll have a wander through the directories and see if I get lucky, though I think Bailey is the most common name in this area...
Title: Re: COMPLETED * 1861 Census - decipher help please Sussex
Post by: jjb on Saturday 19 February 11 01:24 GMT (UK)
mshrmh you mentioned the will of thomas bailey of troughstones died 1868 wondered where i could find it thanks jjb
Title: Re: COMPLETED * 1861 Census - decipher help please Sussex
Post by: mshrmh on Monday 21 February 11 11:51 GMT (UK)
jjb - welcome to RootsChat - sorry not to reply earlier, I've been away from a computer for a few days.

As Thomas died after 1858 his will is available from the court service by post for £5:
http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/1226.htm
I think Lichfield Records Office may also have a transcribed copy from the local probate office - what I have is a scan of a transcription done by a family member many years ago, which version they had access to I don't know.

I'm guessing there may be a family interest. If you'd like the basics I'd be happy to pass them along via a personal message (PM). You need to have made three posts on RootsChat to be able to use the PM system so you'd need a couple more - a couple of one liners on this thread would count. I'd also be interested if you've anything you can share.
Title: Re: COMPLETED * 1861 Census - decipher help please Sussex
Post by: jjb on Tuesday 22 February 11 04:39 GMT (UK)
mshrmh that would be good yes family connection do you have connection
Title: Re: COMPLETED * 1861 Census - decipher help please Sussex
Post by: jjb on Tuesday 22 February 11 04:44 GMT (UK)
mshrmh just the 3rd post
Title: Re: COMPLETED * 1861 Census - decipher help please Sussex
Post by: mshrmh on Tuesday 22 February 11 14:56 GMT (UK)
jjb - I've sent a PM
Title: Re: COMPLETED * 1861 Census - decipher help please Sussex
Post by: Susan Smith on Friday 05 April 19 22:28 BST (UK)
william Bailey is my great great grandad he was a farmer and at one time a dealer in glass and earthenware

Title: Re: COMPLETED * 1861 Census - decipher help please Sussex
Post by: Susan Smith on Friday 05 April 19 22:33 BST (UK)
There was a grandson born william bailey age 3 on a later census he was my grandad but cant find his mum on there.
Title: Re: COMPLETED * 1861 Census - decipher help please Sussex
Post by: Susan Smith on Friday 05 April 19 22:33 BST (UK)
hi Bailey here
Title: Re: COMPLETED * 1861 Census - decipher help please Sussex
Post by: Susan Smith on Monday 08 April 19 16:42 BST (UK)
Hi the William Bailey who was three on the census was my grandad


Susan