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Would someone very kindly look up for Pennsylvania, possibly Beallsville
Cissie Hayter born c.1885 Eling, Southampton, England
Thank you
Ziggie
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Hi Ziggie
1930 US census
Pennsylvania, Washington county, Ellsworth, District 65
Street address: G Row
HAYTER, Cissie
Head, Female, White, Age 41, Widow, b England, Father b England, mother b Scotland. Emigrated to USA 1911, has "Alien" status, and is a nurse in a hospital.
She has two boarders in the household: Dorothy Teanette and Louise Alment.
Valerie
Valerie.
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Hi Valerie
Thank you very much for this information - we know very little of her life after she emigrated - I can now go on to the next stage.
Ziggie :) :)
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In case you haven't seen it, this appears to be Cissie's tombstone: http://bechet.exp.sis.pitt.edu/~dday/beallsville/Pump_Hedge_Section_300_350/302/302SH_Irving_Cissie_Hayter/Irving_Cissie_Hayter_tombstone.html And her husband Alfred: http://bechet.exp.sis.pitt.edu/~dday/beallsville/Pump_Hedge_Section_300_350/302/302SH_Hayter_Alfred/Hayter_Alfred_tombstone.html
In case you need them, I found passenger lists for Cissie & Alfred, them in the 1920 Census, and Alfred's WWI Draft Registration Card.
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I don't know if it is possible but I would like a marriage lookup please
Jemima (Cissie) Hayter (nee Lewis) born c. 1889 England married ............Irving after the 1930 census, possibly Ellsworth/Beallsville, Pa
Father - John Thomas Lewis - mariner
Thanking you
Ziggie
Topics merged in interest of keeping all information about the same person in one place ~ moderator
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Hi Shellyesq
I have the passenger lists, thankyou. I had earlier today found the gravestones for Alfred and Cissie (printed off copies), that's what prompted me to look into this again. I don't have the 1920 census (I thought that Cissie was in England when this took place) nor Alfred's Draft Reg. Card - this would be great. Actually was Alfred an American citizen as nothing was really known about him?
Thanks again
Ziggie
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WWI Draft Registration Card
Alfred Hayter
Box 514, Ellsworth, PA
Age 34, born 3 Jun. 1884
White, alien declarant, citizen of Great Britain
Occupation is hard to read - something like Tam attendant, Ellsworth Coteries Co., Ellsworth, PA
Nearest relative - Cissie J. Hayter, Ellsworth
Medium height, stout build, blue eyes, brown hair, "left foot off"
1920 Census, Ellsworth, Washington Co., Pennsylvania, 4 "G" Row
Hayter, Alfred, head, rents home, male, white, age 35, married, immigrated 1905, papers filed for naturalization, able to read & write, b. England, parents b. England, Fan (?) Engineer - Colleries Co.
wife Cesicie, female, white, age 33, married, immigrated 1911, alien, able to read & write, b. England, parents b. England, no occupation
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SS St. Louis from Southampton to New York 16 Mar. 1911
Hayter, Alfred, age 26, male, married, miner, last permanent residence - Ellsworth, USA, father M. Hayter, Redbridge near Southampton Hants., final destination - Ellsworth, PA, in possesssion of $100, in Ellsworth from 1905-1910, going to home Box 304, Ellsworth, Washington Co., Pa., 5'6" tall, fair complexion, blonde hair, blue eyes, no left foot, born Redbridge, England
SS St. Paul from Southampton to New York 24 Jul. 1911
Hayter, Cissie, age 34, female, married, housewife, last permanent residence - Lotton, Eng., nationality - England, name of relative/friend in country from whence she came - Maple Villas, Junction Rd., Lotton, Hanks., final destination - Ellsworth, PA, never in US before, going to join husband Alfred, 514 P.O. Box, Ellsworth, PA, 5'5 1/2" tall, light complexion, fair hair, blue eyes, born Ealing, Hanks., England
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SS Adriatic from Southampton to New York, 10 Sep. 1920
Hayter, Cissie, age 33, female, married, wife, nationality - Gt. Brit., last permanent residence - Ellsworth, name of relative/friend in country from whence she came - father; Maple Villas, Junction Rd., Totton, final destination - Ellsworth, PA, paid passage by self, in possession in $44, previously in US for 9 years in Elmworth, going to home Box 514, Elmworth, Pa. (in handwriting, it looks like Husband Robt under Box 514), planning to stay indefinitely, 5'7" tall, fair complexion, fair hair, blue eyes, b. Southampton, England
There is a Cissie Irving on the Social Security Death Index who was born 5 Oct. 1889 and died May 1964. Her last residence was Scenery Hill, Washington Co., Pennsylvania. Her Soc. Sec. .# was issued in Pennsylvania betwee 1952-1954.
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Hi Shellyesq
You're a whiz - thanks for all this information. Does the social security information give a second christian name, namely Hayter? Her headstone states Cissie Hayter Irving, Nov. 2, 1885 - May 22,1964.
Ziggie
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Hi Ziggie: I found the Beallsville Cemetery burial record for Cissie Hayter. Unfortunately, I can't attach an image of the pages to this reply. Send me a personal message with an e-mail address and I'll send them off to you. When she died in 1964, she was no longer living in Ellsworth. She was living in Scenery Hill, which is about three miles west of Beallsville.
There are also burial records for Alfred Hayter (died May 4, 1926 from an electrical accident. Possibly in the coal mine) and Benjamin Lewis (her brother?) (who died in a coal mining accident).
As to your query about her marriage: Cissie Hayter must have married Alfred in England, since the passenger manifests for both list them as married. If she was married for the second time while residing in Ellsworth, her marriage record would be held by the Register of Wills of Washington County, Pennsylvania.
My grandmother was living in Elllsworth in 1914 when she married my grandfather. The marriage was held before a justice of the peace (a local judge in minor court cases), and he neglected to send a copy of the marriage certificate back to the county. Thus, there is only an application for their marriage license on file with the county. That happened in a lot of marriages in that area in the 1910s and 1920s, apparently.
Incientally, Alfred Hayter, who was listed on a passenger manifest as a miner, most likely worked in the Ellsworth Mine, a coal mine owned by the Bethelhem Steel Corporation, the second-largest American steel company. My grandmother's father worked in the same mine.
John :o :o :o
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Does the social security information give a second christian name, namely Hayter? Her headstone states Cissie Hayter Irving, Nov. 2, 1885 - May 22,1964.
No, it just says Cissie Irving. The SSDI sometimes has middle initials, but I don't recall seeing middle names.
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Hi again Ziggie: The name index of Beallsville Cemetery shows one other Irving buried there: R.H. Sterns Irving (could be R.H. Stearns Irving), died Dec. 14, 1965. Date of birth was 11/24/1913. I searched that date of birth in the Social Security Death Index and came up with Reginald Irving, died December 1965, Social Security number issued in Massachusetts. A fairly close match, but can't be certain.
Edited: On further thought, Cissie would have been 25 years older than R.H. Sterns Irving. I think that their name in common was probably a coincidence.
If you want to poke around on the Beallsville Cemetery website, its url is http://www.beallsvillecemetery.org. You can e-mail the administrator with questions, she's very helpful.
Regards.
John :o :o :o
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There's an explanation here about Alfred losing his foot: http://patheoldminer.rootsweb.ancestry.com/wasellsworth1.html
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Hi Shelly: Excellent work, as usual. I saw on the passenger manifest that Alfred was missing his left foot, but didn't connect it with a mine accident. I thought the manifest was for his first crossing. Obviously he emigrated before 1906, then went back to England and married Cissie Lewis.
A look at the second page of the manifest says he was in Ellsworth from 1905 to 1910. So why doesn't he show up on a search? Perhaps he entered through another port?
Edited: 1920 census (above) info says he first came to the U.S. in 1905. An A. Wallace Hayter comes up on An******y, entering through Philadelphia, but I couldn't access the manifest. Also, the occupation on his WWI registration card is probably fan attendant, meaning that he watched a large ventilation fan for the Ellsworth mine.
John :o :o :o
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From FreeBMD
Marriage
Alfred HAYTER married Jemima C LEWIS, Mar qtr 1911, Southamption, 2c 72
Birth
Jemima LEWIS birth Dec qtr 1885, New Forest, 2b 691.
New Forest covers Eling, her birthplace on the shipping manifest.
Ian C
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Thanks Ian C but I already have this information
Ziggie
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Where can I apply for marriage and death certificates?
Ziggie
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Here is information about getting vital records from Pennsylvania: http://www.dsf.health.state.pa.us/health/cwp/view.asp?Q=202338&a=168 They have rules on who can receive the records, so you'd have to check if you're eligible to get them.
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Thanks Shellyesq - looks very complicated !!
Ziggie
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Hi Ziggie
I am researching my mother's side of my tree . Her maiden name was Hayter and she was born in Southampton England . At the moment I am looking into her x gr aunt Rose Hayter . Born 1886 Southampton .We know she never married and is buried in Hampshire . She worked as a school house servant at a exclusive school in Winchester on the 1911 census . We also understand that she traveled back and forth to the USA( family memories ) ..which brings me to find her 2 brothers Alfred and Frank ,who both died in Pennsyvania . Your post regarding them has been amazing .
Do you know anything of Rose ? More than happy to help with Hayters in England .
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Hopefully, ziggie will return with more information.
A lot has changed since 2009 on what information is available online for Pennsylvania.
You can find many passenger lists for free at www.familysearch.org, but I don't see anything that seems to fit your Rose. Maybe she married before she traveled?
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Hi,
Alfred Hayter was a Ancestor of mine, I was born in Southampton. My Grandmother was Florence Lillian Hayter. I have done DNA test, and have found information about the family.