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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Sussex => Topic started by: chrisdix on Saturday 25 July 09 11:52 BST (UK)
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I have a Ruth Unicorn in my tree who Married David Saunter in Northiam in 1822. Does any one have any more information on this family name in Sussex or in fact anything on David Saunters roots as i have hit a brick wall. The IGI lists a Lydia Unicorne in Ewhurst but no sign of Ruth anywhere.
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Welcome to Rootschat, Chris.
There's an ag lab named William Unicorn, aged 24, in Beckley in the 1841 census. Very close to Northiam, very probably a relative HO107/1106/1 f45 p7
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Thanks
I am sure it will help.
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Hi Chris
For the record
8th Apr 1822,Northiam.
David Saunter & Ruth Unicorn.
David was a Widower at the time of marriage.
Omega
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Thanks for the info. I dont suppose anyone knows who his first wife could have been? He appears with Ruth in 1841 Census in Bislington but some of his children were born in Sussex and at least 2 of them in Northiam. in 1851 Census i think i have found at least 3 of his children in Rye Union Workhouse including my Ancestor David (their Son) but David (senior) seems to have disappeared.
Next to the childrens names in the workhouse record it says son of Inmate, however i cant find an inmate with the Name Saunter who fits the bill. There is a Martha Sannter but that also doesnt make sense unless Ruth Died in the late 1840s, He married a third time almost immediately and then died himself around 1850. ??? ???
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I found this marriage
11th Oct 1811,Ewhurst.
David Santer & Katherine Crouch.
Omega
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Hi
I've just checked for a Ruth Unicorn(e) baptism on the SFHG baptism database between 1780 and 1810 and nothing was coming up for a Ruth at all. :-\
Kerry
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In fact a search on Unicorne with no first name between 1780 and 1820 brings up no names at all. Are you sure it is a Sussex family and not from across the border in Kent?
Kerry
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There was more than one David Saunter in that neck of the woods at that time. Here's one born 1799 in Beckley but married to someone else http://homepage.mac.com/graememoad/Family2/PS10/PS10_254.HTM
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Right got to the bottom of that one ;D
Ruth Unicum baptised at Ewhurst on 25 November 1801 at Ewhurst to Thomas and Mary Unicum
There are lots of them all under the names Unicum, Unicomb and various other spellings.
Kerry
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Thomas Unicomb married Mary French on 31 March 1785 at Ewhurst
From the SMI
Kerry
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Good work Kerry!
Here's a couple of potential siblings in the IGI (parents Thomas and Mary):
PHILIADELPHIA UNICOMB - bap 19 JUN 1791 Ewhurst
HANNAH UNICOMBE - Bap 19 JUN 1785 Ewhurst
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Philadelphia Unicomb married William Bellingham 10 May 1816 at Ewhurst
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Thanks to everybody for their help on this. What a great bunch you all are. :)
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Hi,
I wonder if this is David and Ruth,
Deaths
David SAUNTER Dec Q 1844 East Ashford 5 1
Ruth SANTUR Mar Q 1843 East Ashford 5 1
I did check the images, and they do have the same reference number even though over a year apart.
David jnr and Charles in 1851 are transcribed as 'son of inmate', but the image just shows has them as " under 'Inmate'.
Regards
Daisy
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Thanks daisy - I will check these out.
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The IGI lists a Lydia Unicorne in Ewhurst but no sign of Ruth anywhere.
I have Samuel UNICOME b 24 Aug 1755 Ewhurst m 15 Jan 1759 Lydia DARBY b 7 Jul 1734 Ewhurst. Their daughter Hannah b 10 Aug 1766 m 23 Oct 1785 James BRYANT of Ninfield.
Lydia was the daughter of William DARBY and Lydia BAKER.
These folks connect to CROUCH, my main line of interest.
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To Ivy Rose ; James Bryant & Hannah Unicombe are my 4th great grandparents. I am descended through their dau. Hannah 1792-1848, who married Richard Smith in Sedlescombe 1810-8-27 ; there after by their son Richard Smith married Ann Goodsell in 1839 in Sedlescombe.
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To Legacy,
Would love to trade data with you!
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Ivy Rose;
What exactly are you looking for? I have not done extensive research on this line other than finding Lydia’s Bpt. and her parents, who Mar.1733 in Ewhurst. I do not know of Samuel’s origins. Richard Smith from my previous post was the father of another Richard Smith, bpt.1857 in Sedlescombe, who went to London. His mother, Ann Goodsell was a dau. of William Goodsall & a Susan Crouch. How are you connected??
Legacy
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My main interest, though I've adopted all lines, is in CROUCH. Elizabeth CROUCH 1840-1915 Ewhurst m1861 Henry BRYANT 1842-1914 s/o William BRYANT and Elizabeth HAYLER. William was s/o William BRYANT and Mary KEMP. AS you will be aware, this William was s/o James and Hannah.
I have been working to prove that Elizabeth CROUCH's father Oliver 1808-1985 was a sibling of George CROUCH b1805. George's parents were John CROUCH b1764 and Mary VIDLER b ca 1765. George was their 9th child as far as I have been able to determine.
On the 1851 census Ewhurst, Oliver CROUCH and George CROUCH live side-by-side.
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I forgot to mention how I connect. George CROUCH b1824 Bodiam is my 3x great grandfather.
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I am afraid that you are maybe barking up the wrong tree. According to what I have from the p.r. of Ewhurst , Oliver Hodges was the bastard son of Rose Crouch bpt. 1808-12-11; who married Frances Yorke 1837-4-22 at Ewhurst. His dau. Bpt.1841-3-7 Elizabeth Crouch, did M. 1861-12-14 at Sedlescombe to Henry Bryant, 19 yrs.
Rose Crouch was a dau. of William & Lucy Barrow who had another bastard son, William in 1811.
As far as I know, Oliver Crouch was not a sibling to this George, sorry.
Legacy
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Well. The bastard son was using his father's surname? I wonder who Rose's parents were. I cannot fathom that all these Ewhurst and nearby Crouches were not related somehow.
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Oh brother. Sorry. You gave me Rose's parents. Knee-jerk. I did have all of the dates you provided, but for Oliver and Frances' marriage date. I have her birth at 1813 which now does not seem likely. Truly, I've done only a cursory search for these folks. I may abandon it now pending more data to make connections. Sigh.
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He seemed to be known all his life as Oliver Crouch, and I could not see any bastardly record for him, so do not know for sure if that was the father. I did find one for his brother William, Philip Lake of Brede was accused of being the father.
No doubt the Crouches were related, but further back, as it was a fairly common name. Sorry I could not help further and proof a family connection between us.
Legacy
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This was how I'd found him:
name: Oliver Hodgis Crouch
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 11 Dec 1808
baptism/christening place: , EWHURST, SUSSEX, ENGLAND
indexing project (batch) number: C14804-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 1067149
Should you ever find that my George is related, you have my contact info. Thanks, Legacy!