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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Selkirkshire => Topic started by: mgscott on Saturday 25 July 09 16:05 BST (UK)
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My great grandfather (born 1840) grew up in Ashkirk and married there. He and his family remained in Ashkirk until his mother died in 1880 then promptly emigrated to Canada.
Many of our family were born or married at Sinton Gardens in Ashkirk, where he was employed as the Gardener. Can anyone tell me about this Sinton Gardens or Sinton Estate? I know nothing of it.
Merv
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Hi there, I was brought up in Ashkirk, and married in the church there 2 years ago, its a truely enchanting little village all year round.
Sinton Gardens you talk of, It is actually spelt SYNTON, and to my knowledge there are no longer gardens there, just farms and holiday cottages.
I am sorry I can't help you more.
Good luck. (Ps if you type Synton Mains into the popular search engine it shows the holiday cottages with contacts who may be of use to you).
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I thought you might like a look at a map of Ashkirk and Synton from 1800's and you will be able to see for yourself. Hope it useful.
This is a fantastic resource and you can play around with it to see what you want.
http://geo.nls.uk/os25inch/
Good luck.
Brina ;D
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Sorry the site will not save the zoom copy I hoped to save for you. However just choose Selkirk from the drop down box then Ashkirk from the next and type in Synton and a choice will appear. I just clicked on the first one. Then zoom in on Synton and you will see area and the names of everywhere as it was in the 1800's.
Good luck.
Brina ;)
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Hi Merv,
Here is a link to Sinton Garden Cottage in the 1861 Census (I presume this will be the right house).
http://www.maxwellancestry.com/census/61transcript.aspx?houseid=78103014
You can search this census site by address, as you can see there are many cottages on the Sinton estate in the 1841-1861 censuses. As well as a full census transcription there are also links to both modern maps and historical maps. The pointer on the modern Google map points to the exact house so you can see where the house is now and the information to locate it on other maps.
Anyway I hope this helps your research.
Emma
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First I want to thank all 3 of you for your kind responses. I've been trying to take a rest from my family research but just can't stay away...thus my not very timely response to you. I map and census links are wonderful. Thanks.
As for 'haunted house' I wonder if you remember a house up in the Synton area that has high stone walls all around it's back yard. When we visted many years ago a local farmer told us that would have been where the Synton gardener lived. Do you remember the house I speak of? If so do you know this house by another name or purpose or who lives there today?
Merv
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Merv,
I'm looking for a Margaret Murray Scott - who may have been the Margaret Scott born to John Scott and Margaret Kennedy in 1851 at Synton Gardens. Would we be interested in the same person by any chance?
Alli
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Hello Alli,
I have many Scotts in that area and timeframe. One John and Margaret Scott I have had a daughter named Georgina born about 1858 but I don't see a Margaret born in 1851. This John was the son of George Scott and Jean Stewart I believe. I have more about that family and others.
Sound familiar?
Merv
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Unfortunately your Scott family isnt very familiar. I was curious about this one...
John Scott and Margaret Kennedy were married 15 Feb 1847 in Hawick Roxburghshire and had the following children:-
John Scott Bapt 24 Jun 1849 Ashkirk Rox
Margaret " 25 May 1851 Ashkirk Rox
Christina " 15 May 1853 " "
Thomas Kennedy born 10 Feb 1857 Selkirk, Selkirk
Mary Scott born 9 Aug 1859 Selkirk, Selkirk
Janet born 7 May 1862 " "
Robert born 7 May 1862 " "
Close - but not quite it!
Thanks though!
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Hello Alli. This past spring I decided to spend an entire month in Edinburgh to get to know the city better, do some research into Scotland's history and add a touch of family history research as well. My family history research found the connection you talked about. Yes your John Scott and Margaret Kennedy are connected to me.
John's parents were John Scott and Chirsty Nicholl who lived out their lives at Whinfield, Ashkirk. The parents of the John Scott (who married Christy Nicholl) was John and Helen Scott, also of Ashkirk. John and Helen Scott are my direct great great great grandparents. Therefore, if you are descendent of John and Helen Scott then you and I are indeed connected?
Thank you Roots Chat.
I hope you are interested in what I have found about your family? I look forward to hearing from you.
Relatively Yours.
Merv Scott