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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cavan => Topic started by: rickyp on Monday 03 August 09 21:47 BST (UK)
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Im trying to find any descendants of my great grandfather/great grandmother.
John Patton born 1864, died 1941 aged 77 and buried in Killeshandra co.cavan.
Sarah Patton(nee Magee) born 1878 laheen co.cavan and died 26 november 1965 aged 87. Buried Ennisberry.
Any info would be great cheers
Ricky Patton
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Going through old posts and found this one - have you already found the information on this family that you were looking for earlier? Since then lots of Irish resources have come online.
John and Sarah Patton are listed in 1901 census with two sons-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cavan/Killeshandra/Main_Street/1064261
Here's the family in 1911 with two more daughters- listed as married 13 years so c1898-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cavan/Killashandra/Killashandra_Town/340729
Another online resource is the civil registration index (goes up to 1958 for Co, Cavan and the rest of the Republic of Ireland but only 1921 for Northern Ireland counties). From the index you can get the details needed to order the certificates if you wish.
There's a marriage in 1929 (and birth 1905) for Ida Margaret Patton, birth for Laura E (1909), birth for George (1900), birth for John Herbert (1898), death for a John Patton (1941), etc.
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails&c=fs%3A1408347
We can't post details of living people here but have a look at Introduction to Irish Records for information about certificates, etc.
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html
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Ricky,
I hope this post finds you well.
I have been checking up on some family connections and just found your post.
I am a great grandson of John Patton and Sarah Patton (nee Magee)
I'm trying to bring a family tree together and would be interested in any info you may have. Obviously, I'd be delighted to impart any info I have on this side.
Cheers
Des Patton
BTW, I believe the reference to Ennisberry should be St. Patrick's Church Of Ireland, Enniskerry. FYI
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I'm afraid Ricky hasn't been online since Auguist 2009.
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Thanks aghadowey, I noticed that but thought I'd chance it.
In the interests of contributing, I thought I'd add some info on the topic.
John Patton born circa 1864, died 10th January 1941, Buried 'Old Cemetry', Killeshandra, Co. Cavan
Sarah Patton (nee Magee) born circa 1876, Died 27th Nov 1965, Buried St. Patrick's COI, Enniskerry, Co. Wicklow.
Daughter Laura Evelyn (Clarke) - Born circa 1909, Died 19th September 1985, Buried St. Patrick's COI, Enniskerry, Co. Wicklow
see http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/wicklow/photos/tombstones/enniskerry4/target126.html
Son Percival Griffith - Born 27th March 1913 , Died 5th June 1994, Buried St. Patrick's COI, Enniskerry, Co. Wicklow
see http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/wicklow/photos/tombstones/enniskerry4/target127.html
Son John Herbert - Born 28th January 1898, Died 26th February 1947, Buried Mount Jerome Cemetry, Harold's Cross, Dublin
Son George Harold - Born circa 1900,
Daughter Ida Margaret - Born circa 1905,
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Hi Des,
Thanks for typing up the info. on the Patton family.
I've been researching the Patton & Clarke family history for a friend. Laura Evelyn Patton married George Griffin Clarke in 1946. George Clarke was born in Baltinglass, Co. Wicklow abt 1909, so it makes sense that Laura is buried in that county with him. I'm guessing her mother Sarah moved there after the death of husband John in 1941 as the 3 of them are buried together.
I've heard stories of George Clarke and Laura Patton's brother having a lot to do with golfing and the Rathfarnham Golf club? Any knowledge of this or other Patton info you'd share with me?
Anyway, I wanted to say thank you as it validates my research and provides me new burial information for some of the Patton's.
Best wishes,
Julia
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Julia,
I'll make contact, as suggested, through the Personal Message system.
cheers
Des
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I'm afraid Julia only has 1 post so will possibly not get your message- new users usually need 3 posts to send and receive PMs.
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Thanks aghadowey. Will see what the follow-up is.
Julia,
Very interested to know if you've linked John Patton (circa 1864-1941) back to his origins in Co. Donegal, or if you have any info on the school he taught in, in Cavan.
cheers
Des
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Made contact via PM
Thanks
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Just came across these messages last night. I am the youngest granddaughter of John and Sarah Patton. My dad was Percy. Laura, his sister was married to George Clark, but they had no children. Herbert had one son Colin. He was a career officer in the Irish army. He died in October 2004. I believe he and his wife *, had 3 children, one of whom is named * they live in Ireland, possibly Co. Monaghan Ida was married to a George Blakely. They had two children, * and Dona. * lives in south county Dublin. His dauughter, *, is a doctor also in Dublin. His son * is an investment banker in London. Dona who died some years ago, had two daughters, * and *, who, last time I heard are in Englan. Harold Patton, John and Sarah's oldest, lived in Bristol. I never met him but know he had 2sons, one of whom was *. Finally, my sister * lives in Dublin and I live in Arizona.
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Sorry for all the typos in the last post!
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Hi,
I was just talking to my mother on the phone she lived in Killeshandra when she was young.I always remembered that her schoolteacher was called Patton. Anyway she told me a bit about the family history and I have just noticed that the names that she mentioned were the same as some of them earlier on this posting.
Sarah was my mother's schoolteacher in the 1930s, my Mum used to go to Sarah's house to practice the piano before school (the house had 3 steps up to the door and was next to the hotel in Killeshandra). Then later Laura her daughter took over (she was married to George Clarke) and taught my mother up until 1941 in Killeshandra.
Mum knew Ida (Laura's sister) too and my Mum was in contact for many years afterwards with Laura and has an old address and telephone number in her diary still where Laura lived in Terenure (hope I have spelt it OK) in Dublin. Mum could tell me that Ida had a daughter called Dona and I saw that too in the posting.
She also told me that the Pattons were related to a member of Parliament called Patton too.
I don't know if this is of any help, but my Mum was so delighted to share her memories about this family, cos they were all held in very high regard when she was at school.
Margaret
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Hi to DeniseT and MEW53,
Greetings from the Emerald Isle.
First things first, I'm Colin's youngest, as alluded to by DeniseT.
DeniseT
Great to hear from you. Sorry I didn't get to your post before the moderator! I should have snapped up the names before their removel. However, you can understand the intervention. I've been trying to gather pieces together and all info is welcome. I have an old secondary email account des_patton(a)hotmail.com. I'd love to establish contact and get a copy of that info. If you get a chance to make contact, drop a note here and I'll get a notification in my primary email account.
Margaret
Great to hear from you. It's great to hear information from a primary source, your mum. I've used maps.google.com to roam Killeshandra trying to nail the location of the house you referred to, however I can't be certain. I drove up there last year and found John Patton's grave, which, up to that point, I was unaware of. I'm also having a problem locating the school. Do you have any further info on the school, for example name or location. There is an old school house with a "For Sale" sign on it in Killeshandra (visible with street view on maps.google.com), but I don't know if has anything to do with it. Any other info you can get would be most appreciated. Thanks and please pass on my thanks to your Mum, I hope she is well.
Google maps reference (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=killeshandra&hl=en&ll=54.01251,-7.526493&spn=0.031623,0.090895&sll=47.635784,-14.589844&sspn=37.195871,93.076172&vpsrc=0&hnear=Killeshandra,+County+Cavan,+Ireland&t=h&z=14&layer=c&cbll=54.012573,-7.526563&panoid=GfjVSEYZm9iHpXXV7Rs8dA&cbp=12,16.15,,0,8.16)
Cheers
Des Patton
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Des
Check your secondary e-mail.
Margaret,
Interesting reading. I did not know that Laura had taught in Killeshandra. I vaguely remember steps up to the front door, when my father brought us to the town one time, but, by that time, the family was long gone from the town, so I don't think we actually went into the house. I believe that the graves in the old cemetery, now condemned, had to be moved, due to flooding from the lake. It's strange the snippets of memory you have.
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Hi Des & Denise,
I saw the school photo on google map, will talk to my Mum tomorrow when I visit to see if she can give me any more information on the location of the school. Strange how my Mum remembered about the steps up to the front door. My Mum's last visit to Killeshandra was in the 1960s, so I expect a lot has changed there.
Margaret
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Margaret
Actually, I don't think the main street of the town is that different. My husband and I were there in 2006, and, other than being spruced up a bit, it reminded me of every other small Irish town of my childhood.
See attached.
Denise
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Thanks Denise for the photo, I don't seem to be getting notifications on this post, just quickly looked to see if there was anything from you or Des and saw your reply!
Main St looks just the same as when I last visited in the 1960s as a child, good memories!
I will update you after my visit to my Mum's tomorrow, we are in England.
Margaret
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Margaret
I will be on the lookout. I am in the south western U.S., so you may be updating things while I'm still asleep.
Denise
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Hi Margaret,
Made email contact with Denise to share some more current information that wouldn't be welcome here. I also, didn't get any notifications of your added posts to this forum.
I'd imagine little has changed in the layout of Killeshandra for the past 100 years, so using google maps to travel the main street from end to end, should jog a few memories.
Looking forward to any remembrances.
Des
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Hi Des & Denise,
Sorry for the delay in replying, I checked with my Mum apparently the photo on the google reference is the one for the school. Apparently the school is derelict now and according to a relative of my mother's who still lives in Cavan the school has been up for sale for many years. From the google map provided by Des it looks like there is a petrol station there now. This relative said that there is some sort of preservation order on the site. Interestingly, the relative (my Mum's cousin's wife) who is in her 80s also taught at this school many years ago.
Old cemetry - you are right about it being condemmed, I think my Mum told me that relatives on my Dad's side were buried there.
Des, I didn't get an alert on your last posting until just now, there seems to be a problem with notifications. I have raised this as an issue, but it doesn't seem to happen all the time, so sometimes I miss replies.
Hope this helps
Margaret
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Hi Des & Denise,
On my last posting on this thread when I said that the google map reference was correct I left out the name of the school, it was the National School, Main Street, Killeshandra.
Margaret
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Hi Margaret,
I found this before and wasn't sure, but looking at it now, it appears to be the same building as we referred to on google maps.
Pictured in better days,
http://ireland.iol.ie/~galwill/histsch1.htm
Cheers
Des
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Hi, We have recently undertaken a clean up of the old Killeshandra graveyard and have recorded the memorials therein: PATTON
'In loving memory of John Patton beloved husband of Sarah Patton, died 10th January 1941, aged 77 years - He Giveth his Beloved Sleep'
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Can anyone tell me was Percival Griffith Patton a member of the medical profession?
Homelands.
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Yes, Percy was a Doctor.
FYI
Des
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thanks for the reply - did he practice from 138 Kimmage Road East, Terenure, Dublin?
homelands.
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I can't be certain on the address. I was looking at google street view and no specific house rang a bell (things change). However, I'm pretty sure it was in close proximity to the KCR filling station at kimmage cross;
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=kimmage+cross+roads,++dublin&hl=en&ll=53.312362,-6.299184&spn=0.00234,0.005681&sll=53.311301,-6.325153&sspn=0.004679,0.011362&hnear=Crumlin+Crossroads&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=53.312185,-6.299441&panoid=FrCHH1fsefZYIuHAW8Ijkw&cbp=13,186.81,,0,1.39
Cheers
Des
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thanks for that - are you any relation to Percival Griffith Patton?
homelands.
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grandnephew
des
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thanks for the reply - his name is linked to our family in an indirect way.
homelands.
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Is this the school that is referred to in previous posts? National School, Killashandra - photograph taken in the 1950's.
Homelands.
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Comparing the photos, it would appear to be the same building as referred to previously. However, I can't say if this school was referred to as the 'National School'.
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My late mum went to school in Killashandra.
homelands.
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Does anyone recognise this photograph? in our album it is described as "Owen's Cottage" - I think it was a gate lodge on a large estate in Killashandra, a few years ago when we went back it was almost still standing.
Homelands.
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This is the Manse, Killashandra - where our family lived in the 1930's/1940's they were self sufficient and grew their own vegtables - does anyone remember the Manse?
Homelands.
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Homelands,
I am a bit late to this dance, but I am Percy's younger daughter. The address where he had his surgery until 1989 was 138 Terenure Road West.