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Title: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: Geoff on Monday 03 May 04 06:32 BST (UK)
 I'm interested in any info connected to the DUGAN/DUGGAN family of Tullaghobegley, Donegal

In patricular the family of Michael born c 1832.
He sailed to Australia as part of the Donegal Relief Fund in 1859.
I know it's not much to go on, but it's all I have.

Cheers
Geoff
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: Christopher on Tuesday 12 April 05 14:38 BST (UK)
Hi Geoff,

There was still a Duggan family at Tullaghobegly in 1901. They may have been related to Michael.
1901 Census Cronaguiggy, Tullaghobegly, Co Donegal
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/1901cronaguiggy.htm -

Christopher
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: Geoff on Friday 15 April 05 03:55 BST (UK)
Hi Christopher,

Thank you for the 1901 census website dealing with the DUGGAN'S of Tullagohbegley.

I'll see where this may lead, hopefully it may offer up some clues.

Cheers
Geoff
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: warrawillah on Thursday 05 April 07 13:37 BST (UK)
HI,
I have Margaret Duggan, born Donegal about 1847, daughter of Cormack and Johanna nee Coyle. She came to Australia, date unknown and married John Gillespie in Bathurst in 1870. Did your Michael come to this area?
Marie
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: Geoff on Friday 06 April 07 06:18 BST (UK)
Hi Marie,
Our Michael went to Maitland NSW. Most of, if not all of the Donegal Relief immigrants settled around the lower Hunter region.

Cheers
Geoff
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: ashe on Friday 06 April 07 06:59 BST (UK)
Hi Geoff

This is a shot in the dark, but would you have come across a Ann Duggan, probably born around the 1820-30's Ireland, what Co - no idea. The only info I have is that she married a Denis Considine, and that they had a daughter Ann born around the 1850's.

Like you not much to go on.

Regards
Ashe
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: Geoff on Saturday 07 April 07 02:08 BST (UK)
Hi Ashe,
It certainly is a shot in the dark.
They would be about 300 miles apart.
Getting back on track though, I know nothing of Michael's family, and after 15 years looking for them, I doubt I ever will.
Sorry to be such a dead end for you.
Cheers
Geoff
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: ashe on Saturday 07 April 07 05:44 BST (UK)
Hi Geoff

Thought it would be but.....you never know. 

Good luck with your search.

Regards
Ashe
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: patdu on Friday 04 May 07 17:36 BST (UK)
Dear Geoff,
I am a Duggan one generation removed from Tullaghobegley. My father didn't emigrate to America until late 1940's, so if you've checked the on-line graveyard census for Tullaghobegly, that's us on the Duggan headstone with the most names.  As far as we can tell, our family has probably inhabited that remote corner of Donegal since the last ice age. One added complication: my paternal grandfather married a Duggan in a neighboring parish (no relation) so all told I probably have more Duggan relatives than most. Our trouble has been sorting out who belongs to which side of the family. In Irish, the name is O Dubhaigan, but the English spellings varies between Doogan and Duggan, even within members of the same immediate family, which is something to keep in mind when perusing the various census documents. So far I have not come across any Michaels in our direct line, but some of those extended families were quite large. I did notice, however, that the ship manifests for the Donegal Relief Project do include fathers' names in the passenger information. By any chance, do you have that piece of the puzzle? If so, I have a history book that mentions various "Doogans" who were later evicted from specific neighborhoods which may help narrow down your search. I'd be glad to look it up for you. The records only mention heads of households, unfortunately, and the book is likely out of print by now. I bought it when my children and I lived in Falcarragh, the main villiage, back in 1999-2000. Sadly, the senior members of my father's family have since passed away so there's no one left of that generation for me to ask.

Best regards,
Pat
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: Geoff on Saturday 05 May 07 06:02 BST (UK)
Hi Pat,
Thanks for the contact.
I'm about to restart my search after learning that my Michael's father may have been either Patrick Bernard Duggan/DUGAN or Bernard Patrick DUGGAN?DUGAN.

Since Michael's arrival in Australia these Christian names, especially Bernard, has been used a lot in subsequent families.

Regards
Geoff
























Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: patdu on Sunday 06 May 07 19:01 BST (UK)
Dear Geoff.
I found the source book referenced earlier: "Cloughaneely Myth and Fact" by Gerry McLaughlin,  published by Johnswood Press LTD,  Dublin c .2002, so it still might be in print.
Turns out this book was one the relatives mailed me later. As I said before, not much detail about the Great Famine, unfortunately, but the "Evictions (1889-1892)" section lists pockets of Duggans/Doogans in Ardsmore (a Joseph being the most senior of the evictees there) and Ballyness townlands. No Bernards, but there was a Paddy Doogan mentioned in Ballyness.
(Note: Cloughaneely is the district, Tullaghobegley is the parish and the individual townlands are the equivilant of family farms. ) Mr. McLaughlin culled those eviction accounts from newspaper archives. His bio lists him as residing in Falcarragh. My family apparently orginated in Ardsmore, but eventually gravitated to Falcarragh. All the parish townlands are within walking distance, however.
The maps you'll find on-line are a bit deceptive.
Hope that gives you a little more to go on.
~P
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: Geoff on Monday 07 May 07 00:06 BST (UK)
(Note: Cloughaneely is the district, Tullaghobegley is the parish and the individual townlands are the equivilant of family farms. )

Hi Pat,
Thanks for setting me straight, I wasn't sure which was town ,village, district or parish, now I know.

My Michael didn't leave Ireland until early 1859 so I expect to find him on the 1851 census.
He should be about 18 years of age at the time of the census. Now that I know the district & Parish he shouldn't be too hard to locate.
If I find him still residing with other family then the names may give me a clue. The names he used for his children may match up with family he left over there.

Regards
Geoff
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: patdu on Monday 07 May 07 23:07 BST (UK)
One more insight:
(I found this out after reading more of the book over the weekend.)
Tullaghobegley split into two parishes eventually so many families began to attend
St. Mary's in Gortahork (whose records are now kept at  Christ the King Church.)
See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/gortbaps.htm

There are a couple of Bernard Doogans and one Bernard Dugan listed so you might want to scour the census for those particular townlands. They also mention sponsor names, i.e. godparents who were usually relatives.
Here's the full page which also references burials:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/tullaghoproject.htm

Hope you finally get a match!

~P




Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: Geoff on Tuesday 08 May 07 00:07 BST (UK)
Hi Pat,
Thank you for the URL's.
These may give me some clues that will tie in with what I know of our Dugan/Duggan family.

Appreciate the help.

Cheers
Geoff
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: kathlingram on Sunday 12 August 07 23:25 BST (UK)
I have just this week connected to my Dugan line. I was told that my Mary Dugan was from Donegal but aside from her marriage certificate that is all we knew.  She married my Patrick Faunt originally from Tipperary in Beverly NJ in 1884. States parents of Catherine Lafferty and Patrick Dugan.

This week I found a cousin( or he found me) ;) His ancestor Bernard (Barney) Dugan was my Mary's brother.His death certificate says Patrick Dugan and Catherine McCafferty.He was reported to be from Falcarragh Donegal.They came to US c. 1879 and they and their sister Margaret live with their Uncle John Dugan.John and wife Rose are buried in a plot with a Katherine Faunt 3 months..probably daughter of my Mary.

I was able to find Mary's death certificate this week.Only husband Pat and Uncle John Dugan are mentioned.

We think that may indicate the death of the parents..Mary's birth c. 1863 and Barney 1866-68.They come about 1879

This is in Philadelphia. Mary Dugan Faunt leaves 6 children between 1 and 13. My grandfather Ed Faunt was 2 or 3.Probably from losing his Mom at an early age we never quite ascertained his birth year. 1898 is what he thought but the church record was different.

We did know that we had Coyle cousins.
Barney Dugan marries Rose Coyle from Ireland, daughter of Ellen Dugan and sister of John,Dennis and Margaret..also Donegal.

Probably we are seeking a death record for Catherine Lafferty or Mc Cafferty and Patrick Dugan.Patrick would have had a brother John who went to Philadelphia.

Possible other family members went to Australia.
Kathleen Carrow Ingram
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: Geoff on Sunday 12 August 07 23:40 BST (UK)
Hello Kathleen,

I've kept your details and will get back to you if I turn up any connections with our DUGAN/DUGGAN lines.

Regards
Geoff
NSW Australia
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: kathlingram on Monday 13 August 07 00:00 BST (UK)
Geoff
Thank you! If I get any more dates from the new cousin I will send. Barney Dugan used to buy Irish Sweeps from a woman in Falcarragh named Norah Mc Fadden who may have been related also.

These 3 siblings may have come between 1877-1879 or all together.

Their Uncle John Dugan is less clear.His wife Rose is deceased by 1873( in Philadelphia) so they may have come by 1860?He is born in 1813 and dies in 1885.
Kathleen
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: thady on Tuesday 14 August 07 00:19 BST (UK)
Hi Geoff,
This link takes you to information regarding the Donegal Relief Fund, including passenger ship lists.  I didn't see a Michael Doogan/Duggan listed, however interestingly the researcher's stated research interests include Doogans/Duggans , therefore you may wish to get in touch with him. Contact details are on the same page:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/relief.htm

Regards
Angela
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: Geoff on Tuesday 14 August 07 03:00 BST (UK)
Hi Angela,

Bill Spillane & I have exchanged words many times over the Duggan/Doogan/Dugan families.

We have both searched passenger lists of all 5 ships of the DRF voyages without finding my Duggan/ Dugan

What I have found is the birth cert of Michael & Agnes's 1st child. It states that the parents {Michael & Agnes} were married At sea on the 19th May 1859, on the voyage to NSW by the Rev Michael Flannagan.

It does seem that the family used the name spelt as DUGAN most of the time, but that could just be the person doing the entries.

We have not found any sign of the good father either.
After all these years I doubt I will get to the bottom of this line, but I keep my eyes open, you just never know.
That's genealogy.

Cheers
Geoff
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: kathlingram on Tuesday 14 August 07 16:17 BST (UK)
Hi
My researcher has found a 4th child for my family James Doogan born to Patrick Doogan and Catherine McClafferty March 5 1873 at Ardsbeg. At least one child if not more go to Australia.This James may be one of them.
Bernard Patrick"Barney", Mary,Margaret, James.

He is today looking for more... I will let you know..

Also these Michaels,in the Valuation, if it helps..
Doogan, Michael County : Donegal
Parish : Tullaghobegley
Location : Ballynacraig
Doogan, Michael County : Donegal
Parish : Tullaghobegley
Location : Carrick
Doogan, Michael County : Donegal
Parish : Tullaghobegley
Location : Magheragallan
Doogan, Michael County : Donegal
Parish : Tullaghobegley
Location : Meenacung
Doogan, Michael County : Donegal
Parish : Tullaghobegley
Location : Sheskinbeg
Doogan, Ml. County : Donegal
Parish : Tullaghobegley
Location : Keeldrum, Lower
Comment : Chas.
Doogan, Ml. County : Donegal
Parish : Tullaghobegley
Location : Keeldrum, Lower

Kathleen
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: thady on Tuesday 14 August 07 18:27 BST (UK)
Hi Geoff,

Thats a shame. Unfortunately, as im sure you are well aware, pre 1864 territory in Ireland is very difficult to research due to lack of resources.

Good luck anyway

Angela
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: Geoff on Wednesday 15 August 07 00:18 BST (UK)
Hi Angela,
It sure is near non existant.
I have five families pre 1840 all in different counties.
There is not one of them that I expect to develop any further than that.

Cheers
Geoff
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: Geoff on Wednesday 15 August 07 00:22 BST (UK)
Hi Kathleen,
Thank you for the list. It may help further down the track.
The era I'm after to continue my search is a generation or two prior to the list, 1825-1850.

Thanks again
Geoff
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: kathlingram on Wednesday 15 August 07 00:37 BST (UK)
Geoff
I believe that list is 1857 as that Patrick in Ardsbeg is most likely father (or GF )of my Bernard, Margaret,Mary,James born 1864-73. Younger brother or even nephew of John Dugan born 1813.My Mary calls John Dugan "Uncle".
I should know this week.
I guess I am lucky as my births are after 1848 when Baptismal records may be available.

My Faunt/Fant family in Tipperary has the records available as early as 1809.Mallow Cork in 1819.
Kath
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: kathlingram on Sunday 02 September 07 22:58 BST (UK)
 The latest news on my Dugans shows Kate Dugan(60) a widow living with her sister in law also a widow, Ellen McClafferty in the 1901 census.

Kate McClafferty Dugan & Paddy send their son Barney and daughter Mary to America between 1877-1879.Barney is 12 or 13 and Mary a few years older. They have one other daughter Margaret who also comes to Philadelphia.James their last child( I think) is born in 1873.

They send them to live with John and Rose Dugan who emigrate in 1863..

Would this have been common? Would it be more common if Patrick is deceased by then?
 ???
Kathleen
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: mf5474 on Tuesday 27 July 10 22:41 BST (UK)
hi im researching same duggans as you, could you please contact me
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: patdu on Wednesday 28 July 10 01:02 BST (UK)
Hi mf5474,
I haven't posted in awhile and have learned more about
my familly tree in recent months.

My relatives are all from the northwest corner of Donegal.
I have Duggan/Doogan and Gallagher for grandparents and
Ferry in extended family.
Perhaps you could provide more details so we can exchange information.

~Pat Duggan
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: kathlingram on Wednesday 28 July 10 02:31 BST (UK)
Pat and MFA5474

I think we are for sure the same group. Pat  and I anyway. The newer records at FamilySearch.org have added some siblings to all my generations.
My Mary Dugan 's first cousins also came to Philadelphia: Margary, Mary and Rose Doohan/Dugan.Rose Dugan married John Coyle and their granddaughter was Rose Veronica Coyle Miss America.
Margery, Rose and Mary's parents were Bryan Duggan and Hannah Harkin.They also had a son Denis and a daughter Bridgit. Denis Doohan's daughter Catherine in later years came to Philadelphia and worked in a Catholic Rectory.
Kathleen
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: Geoff on Wednesday 28 July 10 05:22 BST (UK)
hi im researching same duggans as you, could you please contact me

Hi mf5474

I have sent you a personal message with email contact for you.

Cheers
Geoff.
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: mf5474 on Sunday 26 September 10 23:20 BST (UK)
hi pat,
my great grandad was patrick duggan from ardsmore gortahork.
he married madge gallagher from falcarragh.
and i'm ferry myself.

cheers!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: hallmark on Monday 27 September 10 09:16 BST (UK)
My one is Motherwell Dougan. Unusual first name...I presume it's a family name rather than related to the place Motherwell..
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: mf5474 on Monday 27 September 10 09:37 BST (UK)
very unusual first name heard of motherwell as a surname but not as a first name.....
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: MaryDNAfam on Sunday 25 October 15 18:06 GMT (UK)
Just found this site as I was trying to determine if my Patrick was really Patrick Bernard- or the other way around.

Bernard/Patrick's parents were Barney Duggan & Ellen Cannon of Kilcar, Donegal.  I think they migrated there from somewhere else.  We have had luck with the Family Finder DNA Test.  Has anyone here done DNA testing?

Mary

Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: Geoff on Monday 26 October 15 02:46 GMT (UK)
Hi Mary,

My Patrick Bernard was the son of Michael DUGGAN and Agnes McConnell.
He was born not long after his parents arrived in Australia.

Cheers
Geoff
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: MaryDNAfam on Monday 26 October 15 11:32 GMT (UK)
I can tell that my Bernard/Patrick is different or perhaps more distant.  Michael is also a name the family also used. I do have a few DNA matches from Australia, I will have to try to find them again.  If they don't post trees it is hard to filter through the matches for info.  Sadly, many don't post trees!

I will keep an eye on this thread as I try to figure out their origin before Kilcar.

Regards,
Mary
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: TaylorAnn91 on Saturday 09 June 18 11:09 BST (UK)
Hi Geoff, my name is Taylor, I’m related to your Michael Duggan born circa 1819. Then through his son Patrick Bernard Duggan, who married a German woman, Elizabeth Opher. Then through their son Reginald Patrick Duggan who married Isabel Rae. Their daughter Elizabeth Quayle nee. Duggan is my grandmother. I’d be interested to know how you’re related. I have an old photo of Reginald Duggan when he was 21 and my Nan (Elizabeth) is going to show me more photos when I visit her next. I’m hoping she has some photos of Patrick and his father Michael and can tell me some more information.
Title: Re: DUGAN / DUGGAN
Post by: Geoff on Sunday 10 June 18 02:48 BST (UK)
Hi Taylor,
Is that your first or surname, I ask because it looks like your name could be Ann Taylor.

You may be able to settle something for me, Michael's birth I started out with no date, then I found a couple that didn't jibe with what I had figured his age to be, next I was contacted by a fellow who was chasing the Duggan's and he told me he was born in 1832. Now you say it's 1819, could you tell me how you found that date please. I have a head shot photo of Patrick Bernard you might like a copy of so if you write to me at the address I will send to you on a Personal Message.  By the way Patrick Bernard's wife's surname is OPFER They had 13 children and their first born Amelia May was my wife's grandmother.



Regards
Geoff